anually.
You might want to read this discussion:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2009-November/040757.html
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Martin Langhoff wrote:
> /usr/share instead of /lib seems more appropriate -
/usr/share is for architecture-independent files. These checksums are as
architecture-specific as the executables they pertain to. But they should be in
/usr/lib*/, not in /lib.
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Will all programs that use Gcrypt stop working if the checksum is unavailable
or can the library function without the checksum in an emercency recovery
situation? Does anybody know?
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Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> This changelog style conforms to the existing spec, it has been in use in
> Fedora for several years, it may surprise you, but changing the spec
> retroactively is not the way to prove your point.
There's a spec? Where? I want to read it.
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Tomas Mraz wrote:
> The library will work fine and it will not compute the checksum at all
> if the FIPS mode is not enabled which is the normal situation.
Then perhaps FIPS mode can be left disabled until /usr has been mounted, so
that the checksum can be in %{_libdir}/fipscheck?
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e to
enter an infinite loop for example, would it render my shell useless?
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Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > 3. What if you can't bring up X in the first place?
>
> That's an X bug. File a bug.
I wonder how usable Bugzilla is in Lynx with 80×25 characters.
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Matt Domsch wrote:
> rombobeorn: PragmARC,mine_detector
Those fail because of this GCC bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=613407
I have a workaround in updates-testing, but the actual bug looks like it will
last long.
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Mamoru Tasaka wrote:
> Would you clarify if this build results are for rawhide (i.e. F-15)
> tree or for F-14 tree?
It looks like F-14 to me.
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submit it to stable I get the message "This update has not yet met the minimum
testing requirements defined in the Package Update Acceptance Criteria".
I don't understand this. How does Bodhi count weeks, or what other criteria
does this update need to meet?
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ot; receive bugfixes to PostgreSQL from fedora-
updates and new Firefox versions from the backports repository?
If the backports repository would be an "all or nothing" thing, or if cherry-
picking would require special tweaking of Yum, then it's a bad idea.
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Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> 2010/9/21 Björn Persson :
> > How hard would it be to "cherry-pick" from this backports repository? To
> > install a newer Firefox from there for example, but keep the PostgreSQL
> > from the ordinary Fedora even if there is a newer one
James Antill wrote:
> There's:
>
> http://yum.baseurl.org/gitweb?p=yum-utils.git;a=blob_plain;f=plugins/priori
> ties/README;hb=90ea69cc7589160735fc67f341db210403bc7f6f
Why isn't that file in the package? It leaves many questions unanswered but
it's better t
text it took from the RPM changelog, and prompt the packager
for another log message if it's already there.
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the KDE 4 chaos, but I still prefer Kate for
programming, and Kmail is after all the least bad email program I've ever
found, so those programs are quite important to me.)
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Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> Doing manual tweaking on many machines is not fun
That's when you bring out Kickstart I believe.
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f packages that either don't
support LDFLAGS or don't use %configure.
Are there any plans to check that all executables have GNU_RELRO headers?
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a heuristic
> for that. The program is located here:
>
> http://people.redhat.com/sgrubb/files/rpm-chksec
Perhaps that could be invoked automatically each time a package is built,
similarly to how /usr/lib/rpm/check-rpaths is used?
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Steve's points 1, 2 and 4 look like they should be possible to detect at
build time too.
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ou submit
> it to Bodhi, or even right after the build is finished in Koji (which is
> probably better for your use case).
Thanks for the correction. Yes that's better, but better still is to also run
the test from RPMbuild on my local workstation, for example when I do "fedpkg
l
Ilyes Gouta wrote:
> I'm trying to put together an initial spec file for Fedora.
According to PathScale's license document their products are partly free and
partly unfree. You can of course only package the free parts. How useful are
they without the unfree parts?
y convert
> timezones, despite even double-checking things in a converter. :)
DST strikes again.
("DST" stands for "dumb silly tomfoolery".)
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essage in this
list. It would help if you could explain how this attack works and how exactly
it would cause SystemD to lock up.
Is it perchance a syn flood you're talking about? If so, we have a good defense
since ages. It's known as syn cookies.
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ave the system rather handicapped).
The only thing I can think of that would be a problem is if SystemD needs to
be notified when processes die even when those processes aren't children of
SystemD. Is that the case? Is there anything else that only process 1 can do?
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JB wrote:
> Björn Persson xn--rombobjrn-67a.se> writes:
> > JB wrote:
> > > This does not help in this case. The attack's effect can happen at any
> > > time and catch systemd with its pants down at any time in the
> > > scenarios you described.
>
ything you do. I'm not sure I could do the same if I were in your
situation.
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Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Users who don't have a floppy
> drive and want to save some boot time can blacklist the driver manually.
s/Us/Hack/ to make that sentence true.
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> name in the alphabet, period).
That algorithm would prefer KDE-frobnicator over Gnome-frobnicator, which is
undesired in Gnome-only installations, but it would prefer Gfrobnicator over
Kfrobnicator, which is undesired in KDE-only installations.
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#x27;s particularly odd that I can use /sbin/mkfs to make a disk image without
privileges, but /bin/mount won't mount it even if I own both the image and the
mount point. The division into bin and sbin seems rater arbitrary and I see no
significant advantages with it. Thus I support the pla
Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
> 2011/10/25 Björn Persson :
> > It's particularly odd that I can use /sbin/mkfs to make a disk image
> > without privileges, but /bin/mount won't mount it even if I own both the
> > image and the mount point.
>
> You could create a set
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> In other words, my question is:
> How to configure NM in a private, dhcp-less, static network, with only
> static IPs, such that
> "hostname" returns "" and
> "hostname -f" returns "."
I take it you have compell
in updates-testing. Then you'd find out if
it fixes those particular problems.
That may not help you getting the package pushed to stable though.
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ledge. If packages are downloaded during the upgrade, then the upgrade is
insecure unless Anaconda learns to verify the signatures on the packages it
downloads.
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k it into downloading and installing malicious code that
would run as root once the installed system booted, would that match this
criterion?
Because then I'd say yes, let's make this an alpha release criterion – and
finally do something about bug 998 before F16 alpha.
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ple hundred big FTP archives
with a collective bandwidth of a few hundred gigabits per second?
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you do this.
Ping6 has a way though:
$ ping6 -I eth0 fe80::200:24ff:fec9:2e0c
PING fe80::200:24ff:fec9:2e0c(fe80::200:24ff:fec9:2e0c) from
fe80::21e:8cff:fecf:cde5 eth0: 56 data bytes
64 bytes from fe80::200:24ff:fec9:2e0c: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.69 ms
64 bytes from fe80::200:24ff:fec9:2e0c: icmp
t be, because if it were
on by default it would be spyware), so it counts only those users who want to
be counted which may skew the statistics in some ways.
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ssible to change though. I have never dared to try Coreboot
myself, for fear of destroying my motherboard, but in principle it's possible
to replace the BIOS in most current computers with a free implementation. It's
looking like the TPM makes it impossible to replace Sinit with a fre
to accept a new
master key only when a certain circuit is closed.
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Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 13:36 +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> > That's not impossible to change though. I have never dared to try
> > Coreboot myself, for fear of destroying my motherboard, but in principle
> > it's possible to replace the BIOS i
that's not a problem if
we'll build them just to check that the build process works and won't actually
use the built packages.
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ora that was just sent to the list. Is
> it some kind of weird zombie state? I still don't see the button that
> would let me take ownership.
The status is shown as "Approved", not "Orphaned". To me it looks like the
package is not orphaned, but owned by a maintaine
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le Mar 2 février 2010 21:14, Björn Persson a écrit :
> > Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> >> This changelog style conforms to the existing spec, it has been in use
> >> in Fedora for several years, it may surprise you, but changing the spec
> >
ory that is not
allocated to the users' own processes"?
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thing when a free software project does it?
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Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_sponsor_responsibilities%28draft%29
It says "package sponsor" in the URL, in the heading and in the second
paragraph. I think it should be "packager sponsor" as the sponsor sponsors a
packager, not a
rom Rawhide but it's not in the Branched state anymore. Doesn't that
sound a bit awkward?
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unning processes that shouldn't be interrupted. And since the KDE
upgrade I get popups when I log in about something called Akonadi that doesn't
work because something called Nepomuk isn't running. I have no idea what that
is but apparently something broke.
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That sounds really good, although I would call the second one "still works for
me" to emphasize that it's for people for whom the previous release also
worked.
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ual way with Yum (enabling updates-testing of course, when
that's where I had submitted it to). It's frustrating to wait for hours or
days before I can do that. I don't know if there is a better solution but I do
wish I could test installing right away.
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ound and wait for the update to finish so that I can
turn the computer off, so I'll put it off again, and when the next opportunity
comes the list of updates will have grown even more. That's a vicious circle I
don't want to get into.
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o fix the problem, but no security
update is released for Fedora since there is no problem in the latest Fedora
package. The Fedora user who chose not to upgrade Foobar won't even know that
there is a security problem.
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Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 01:34 +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
> > Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > > Even bugfix releases of KDE require a session restart to fully work.
> >
> > I consider that a serious design flaw in KDE and a strong argument
> >
Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
> On 03/02/2010 06:06 PM, Björn Persson wrote:
> > Jesse Keating wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 01:34 +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
> >>> Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >>>> Even bugfix releases of KDE require a session restart
Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> Moreover you also have the option of updating security fixes only.
That option doesn't really exist, as was already demonstrated:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-March/131926.html
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releases, or only to updates to existing packages?
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> > bugzilla.
>
> Thx for that :) I have added the patches in the upstream bug report :)
I think you need to reopen the bug report for them to notice it. It's
currently shown as closed.
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without updates and insecure if updates are included, and Preupgrade will also
remain insecure until this gets addressed.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998
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but it doesn't
happen once a year to me.
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t;el5" in there. Have you tried compiling it on RHEL 5 or CentOS 5?
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te such simple checks and save human resources for
the things that can't be automated? Or do you think even just installing
updates is too complex to be tested automatically?
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all, as happens with my Intel G35, or using the Vesa driver, as happens with
my GeForce Go 7900 GS? The latter seems more useful to me.
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Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> One suggestion would be to create a directory in /tmp at early boot.
> /tmp/.systemd Which would only have root only access.
That seems like it may be a good idea, but please drop the dot. Why would that
directory need to be hidden?
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t; * Any custom choices the package maintainer opts to provide, via some
> kind of interface to Bodhi
I think there should be a way to report "I installed this update and saw a
regression that is not covered by the test cases and not on the critical
path."
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the title, and
there's no way a program can try them one at a time to arrive at the best
choice. This is in my opinion the most important thing to improve when it
comes to package management.
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better.
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Giovanni Campagna wrote:
> Well, I'm happy to see that some spec files are translated. In fact, I
> found out some packages have translations, but those are only visible
> from yum, not PackageKit (no matter how you insist).
That's odd. gpk-application displays them to
yu are not
> stop all the other services before
Anything that keeps a persistent database connection should be able to
reconnect if it loses the connection and then continue operating normally. If
it doesn't, I'd call that a bug.
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Ruby tells you how to define them.
Presumably both will begin with a slash when correctly defined. Otherwise
you'll have to insert one before the macro references.
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er from the same problem; they depend on libpng
> but the RPM does not require libpng.
ldd works recursively. What does "readelf --dynamic /usr/bin/gnome-session |
fgrep -i png" output?
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other files in /etc/rpm. Those files all belong to redhat-rpm-config. Would
this
work if GNAT_arches were defined in redhat-rpm-config instead of fedora-gnat-
project-common? Is it significant that all three filenames end in "-srpm"? Or
should this be considered a bug in Koj
Thanks Michael and Dennis! I'll try to get a macros.gnat-srpm into redhat-rpm-
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elaborate solution in mind?
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> I'll try to get a macros.gnat-srpm into redhat-rpm- config.
I have filed this request:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=772012
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o build then yes: there is no choice but to remove it.
Or if it has a security bug that nobody is trying to fix. And how will the
project become aware of newly discovered security bugs in orphan packages?
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c/).
If that's not enough to justify a separate package, but it's undesirable to
include these files even on a minimal server, then perhaps they could be added
to some X package that all graphical programs depend on anyway? Just a
thought.
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ug 998 remains unfixed I hope it will at least be possible to make
a fresh install from an ISO image, using only what is included in the image.
Otherwise I don't see how Fedora could be installed securely. Upgrading
securely is still possible with Yum, but installation requires Anaconda as f
ballz marked as executable after the %install
step? I have found that RPMbuild doesn't pick up dependencies from shared
libraries if they don't have the execute privilege bits set. Presumably that
goes for executables too. It would be strange though if GCC doesn't mark the
executabl
Ankur Sinha wrote:
> The package is required for Fedora videos[1] :)
>
> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Video
How does a keylogger help you upload videos to the Internet Archive?
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link to the one on the upstream
website.
To link to a patch you can use a URL similar to this:
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=erlang.git;a=blob_plain;f=otp-0002-
Remove-rpath.patch;hb=5d2c8835ef0223b3939eb372189625c2a88692b4
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> Will it allow me then build package?
Yes.
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hared library: [libm.so.6]
0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libpthread.so.0]
0x0001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libc.so.6]
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Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
> They should be orphaned in pkgdb; you'll need to log in and take
> ownership.
I took GtkAda. I've been the de facto maintainer for some time anyway.
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ewhat. Anyone who has taken the trouble of reporting a bug could then
easily give karma in Bodhi. Separate accounts seems like an unnecessary
obstacle to me.
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at's Bugzilla?
I also think there should be separate choices for "still works for me" and
"fixes my problem". "Fixes my problem" would be what you called "works for me",
while "still works for me" would be for testers who had no prob
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:36:48PM -0600, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
> > On 11/21/2010 17:51, Björn Persson wrote:
> > > Andre Robatino wrote:
> > >> My feeling is that it would be better for Bodhi to always require a
> > >> login.
sound effect settings in the programs themselves. I had to
log
out from Gnome and log in to a KDE session to get at the KDE settings and turn
the noises off. It didn't even happen with an upgrade to a new Fedora release;
it happened with an everyday update within a release. I hate that.
Björn
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Björn Persson wrote:
> > As an example, Kmail and Kate recently started making noises in certain
> > situations, when displaying dialog boxes and the like, even though I had
> > sound effects turned off.
>
> In that case, they were always supposed
cache/mock" allowed Mock to work.
I can imagine that the file permissions might be wrong, although they seem OK
to me, but the error is that the directory doesn't exist. Why are the
directories removed and not re-created?
Björn Persson
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Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Björn Persson said:
> > I can imagine that the file permissions might be wrong, although they
> > seem OK to me, but the error is that the directory doesn't exist. Why
> > are the directories removed and not re-created?
>
>
Ville Skyttä wrote:
> On 02/13/2011 07:00 PM, Björn Persson wrote:
> > Is there any particular reason why Mock can't work when /var/cache/mock
> > is bind-mounted?
> >
> > I have a relatively small flash drive for the root filesystem and a big
> > disk mount
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deleted /var/cache/mock/fedora-rawhide-x86_64 also, as it was the same
directory. I'm now using /disk/data/var-lib-mock and /disk/data/var-cache-
mock, and Mock is working fine.
I'll go LART myself now. Sorry for the noise.
Björn Persson
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ant an operating system with spyware in it.
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ctivities even if no spyware was involved in gathering the
information, but I don't think anyone thinks a download count is a problem.
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