Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

20/3/30 08:40(e)an, James Cassell igorleak idatzi zuen: > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: >>> >>> ### Other Updates >>> >>> GitForge Decision >>> * After evaluating over 300 user stories from multiple stakeholde

Re: Upgrade tooling

On 3/28/20 8:59 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:34:49AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 3/27/20 9:55 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 09:04:53AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 3/26/20 2:35 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:

libcdio soname bump in rawhide

I will update libcdio to 2.1.0 next week in rawhide. As always, libcdio comes with a new SO version. The following packages have to be rebuilt and I will do the necessary rebuilds: cantata cdw clementine gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-free gvfs kover libcddb libcdio-0:2.0.0-6.fc32.src libcdio-paranoia p

Re: unresponsive maintainer: itamarjp

Hi, On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 10:50 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > Hi, François. > > On Sunday, 29 March 2020 at 14:59, François Cami wrote: > > Hi Itamar, > > > > I am starting the unresponsive maintainer process [0], because > > packages you maintain or co-maintain are FTBFS [1]. >

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On 30. 03. 20 5:47, Neal Gompa wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: ### Other Updates GitForge Decision * After evaluating over 300 user stories from multiple stakeholders we have aligned on a decision for the Gitforge that CPE will operate for the coming years. We

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

You will likely need to reset any mutations you have performed $ rpm-ostree reset ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproj

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

> If the source code isn't being modified and no one wants to look after > it(which is 100% fine, not everything does, really), then why not just > ship it as-is from upstream? There is no "upstream" Nvidia packages for F32 (or even F31). The nvidia drivers need to be packaged for Fedora. If yo

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

It is kind of irony, that the ELN branch idea is still rejected. Therefore there will be PRs coming from Stephen's and Alexandra's (or anybody else in ELN SIG) forks of packages, containing changes needed to build some packages in ELN, which nobody is going to merge. In the meantime, the ELN builds

CPE Git Forge Decision

Hi everyone, Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening we announced on the Community Blog our decision to adopt Gitla

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 09:15, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote: > > 20/3/30 08:40(e)an, James Cassell igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > >>> > >>> ### Other Updates > >>> > >>> GitForge Deci

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Sqlite RpmDB

On 3/28/20 2:01 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: So, my concern here is timeline vs the upcoming datacenter move. ;( Do you have any ideas when rpm 4.16 will be released? I don't see any dates on the change. Or perhaps I guess the question is when it will land in rawhide? RPM 4.16 alpha was released las

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

Il giorno lun 30 mar 2020 alle 11:21 Leigh Griffin ha scritto: > Hi everyone, > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an > incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On > Friday evening we announced on the Community Blog >

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

Hi Leigh, On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening > we announced on the Community Blog our decision to adopt

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

20/3/30 11:27(e)an, Iñaki Ucar igorleak idatzi zuen: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 09:15, Julen Landa Alustiza > wrote: >> >> 20/3/30 08:40(e)an, James Cassell igorleak idatzi zuen: >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney wrote:

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:55 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: > Hi Leigh, > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an > incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On > Friday e

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

On 27. 03. 20 16:07, Stephen Gallagher wrote: Please see the newly-updated https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ELN_Buildroot_and_Compose Setup automation to trigger new ELN build every time there is a new update submitted to Fedora Rawhide. Put all the other feedback aside, if we actuall

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:17:21AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening > we announced on the Community Blog >

Release rpkg-1.60

Hi all, a new version rpkg-1.60 is released containing both features and bugfixes. Currently, Fedora 32 and rawhide packages are in the stable repository, feel free to try other waiting distributions in Bodhi. Changelog (web documentation): https://docs.pagure.org/rpkg/releases/1.60.html Updates

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 12:15, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:55 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: >> >> Hi Leigh, >> >> On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Leigh Griffin wrote: >> > >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an >> > incredible nu

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

20/3/30 12:04(e)an, Leigh Griffin igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:55 AM Iñaki Ucar > wrote: > > Hi Leigh, > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 11:30, Leigh Griffin > wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, >

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:48 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney wrote: > > > > ### Other Updates > > > > GitForge Decision > > * After evaluating over 300 user stories from multiple stakeholders we > > have aligned on a decision for the Gitforge that CPE wi

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 8:08 AM Julen Landa Alustiza < jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > 20/3/30 08:40(e)an, James Cassell igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney > wrote: > >>> > >>> ### Other Upda

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

On 30.03.2020 10:45, Daniel Smith wrote: > The nvidia drivers need to be packaged for Fedora. This is absolutely impossible. No proprietary software are allowed. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lis

Fedora-Cloud-31-20200330.0 compose check report

No missing expected images. Passed openQA tests: 1/1 (x86_64) -- Mail generated by check-compose: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/check-compose ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedorap

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On 30. 03. 20 11:17, Leigh Griffin wrote: Hi everyone, Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening we announced on the Community Blog

Re: Release rpkg-1.60

On 30. 03. 20 12:21, Ondrej Nosek wrote: Hi all, a new version rpkg-1.60 is released containing both features and bugfixes. Currently, Fedora 32 and rawhide packages are in the stable repository, feel free to try other waiting distributions in Bodhi. Changelog (web documentation): https://doc

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:11 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > It is kind of irony, that the ELN branch idea is still rejected. I've made several attempts to explain this decision. You are ignoring them. > Therefore there will be PRs coming from Stephen's and Alexandra's (or > anybody else in ELN SIG)

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

Hi, Miro, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:09 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 27. 03. 20 16:07, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Please see the newly-updated > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ELN_Buildroot_and_Compose > > > Setup automation to trigger new ELN build every time there is a new update

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:29 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 09:15, Julen Landa Alustiza > wrote: > > > > 20/3/30 08:40(e)an, James Cassell igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > >> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:12 PM Aoife Moloney

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

On 30. 03. 20 12:54, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: But the fact that I need to convince Fedora packagers that they should at least listen to the problem downstream has, and at least try to think about how it can be addressed, through conditionals or through refactoring, or through upstream changes..

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:02 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > >> >> I was really looking forward to reading what >> Neal (as he's doing now) and others had to say about the requirements >> *before* any decision was taken, and how each tool covers them or not, >> and what kind of effort would require to c

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

On 30. 03. 20 12:59, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: Put all the other feedback aside, if we actually decide that this change is happening, can we not build ELN during the datacenter move [1], when Koji will have a very limited capacity [2]? I think we should go with Kevin's suggestion and deprioriti

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 13:10, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:29 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: >> >> So I was also waiting for those open discussions about the >> requirements gathered. > > We had several threads on them from the Fedora perspective on both devel and > council lists.

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 13:20, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:02 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > >> > >> I was really looking forward to reading what > >> Neal (as he's doing now) and others had to say about the requirements > >> *before* any decision was taken, and how each tool co

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

* Vitaly Zaitsev via devel [30/03/2020 12:42] : > > This is absolutely impossible. No proprietary software are allowed. I believe OP means that NVidia must provide a third-party repo for Fedora. Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:13 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 30. 03. 20 12:59, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: > >> Put all the other feedback aside, if we actually decide that this change is > >> happening, can we not build ELN during the datacenter move [1], when Koji > >> will > >> have a very l

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:27 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 13:20, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:02 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> I was really looking forward to reading what > > >> Neal (as he's doing now) and others had to say about the requ

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

On Sun, 2020-03-29 at 13:13 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > According to the Fedora's Fails To Build From Source policy: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/ > > The following packages will be orphaned on Monday 2020-04-06. Orphaned apache-comm

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:10 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:02 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > >> > >> I was really looking forward to reading what > >> Neal (as he's doing now) and others had to say about the requirements > >> *before* any decision was taken, and how each tool

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:24 PM Iñaki Ucar wrote: > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 13:10, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:29 AM Iñaki Ucar > wrote: > >> > >> So I was also waiting for those open discussions about the > >> requirements gathered. > > > > We had several threads on

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:31 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:27 AM Iñaki Ucar > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 13:20, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:02 AM Leigh Griffin > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> I was really looking forward to reading

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:10:17AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > It is kind of irony, that the ELN branch idea is still rejected. > Therefore there will be PRs coming from Stephen's and Alexandra's (or > anybody else in ELN SIG) forks of packages, containing changes needed to > build some packages in

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:19 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:17:21AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an > incredible > > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Frida

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:31 AM Julen Landa Alustiza < jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > 20/3/30 12:04(e)an, Leigh Griffin igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:55 AM Iñaki Ucar > > wrote: > > > > Hi Leigh, > > > > On Mon, 30 Ma

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

On 30. 03. 20 13:52, Petr Pisar wrote: If I undeestand the proposal correctly there there will be an ELN branch or a name space. But not by default. Only for those packages that reject the change in Fedora. I wonder where is this coming from, because that's exactly what we want and exactly wha

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

On 30. 03. 20 13:52, Petr Pisar wrote: I'm more curious what will happen with the ELN branch once the change is merged into Fedora's master. Will the ELN branch be removed? Will the ELN branch be reset to Fedora's master indefinetely and automatically? Or will be stalled and once ELN maintainer n

Re: Upgrade tooling

> On 3/28/20 8:59 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > > Yes, that is an important hurdle that Fedora generally doesn't > > encounter > > at all. Fedora usually waits until the new rpm functionality is > > released > > in older versions of Fedora before allowing it to be used in > > rawhi

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:45:59PM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > We done that as a Management team and with our Product Owner among other > stakeholders. We did evaluate the merit of the requirements from a > practicality perspective but we did not question or force our opinion on > the validity of

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

20/3/30 13:43(e)an, Leigh Griffin igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:24 PM Iñaki Ucar > wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 13:10, Leigh Griffin > wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:29 AM Iña

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:54 AM Marius Schwarz wrote: > Am 29.03.20 um 18:24 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > > > > RPM Fusion used to provide compiled kmod packages for years, and those > just > > worked. (Well, for the proprietary ones, they only worked as well as > > proprietary drivers work to begin w

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

Le dimanche 29 mars 2020 à 23:47 -0400, Neal Gompa a écrit : > > > As a General User > > I want to access repos fully over https > > For environments where SSH is blocked > > I would be really curious if the Red Hat Infrastructure Security guys > have changed their opinion on this after four year

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:56 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:31 AM Julen Landa Alustiza > wrote: >> >> Sincelery, after reading the initial announcement, I was expecting a >> more visible and open to the community discussion scenario. >> > >> > For transparency, we have pu

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 8:13 AM Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: > > Le dimanche 29 mars 2020 à 23:47 -0400, Neal Gompa a écrit : > > > > > As a General User > > > I want to access repos fully over https > > > For environments where SSH is blocked > > > > I would be really curious if the Red Hat I

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

On 3/30/20 12:54 PM, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:11 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: It is kind of irony, that the ELN branch idea is still rejected. I've made several attempts to explain this decision. You are ignoring them. Therefore there will be PRs coming from Stephen's a

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:57:22PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 13:52, Petr Pisar wrote: > > If I undeestand the proposal correctly there there will be an ELN branch or > > a name space. But not by default. Only for those packages that reject the > > change in Fedora. > > I wonder wh

Re: Upgrade tooling (was: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Sqlite RpmDB)

Dne 27. 03. 20 v 8:55 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > In current "offline upgrade" scheme, the upgrade > tools are running on the real system, with udev active. How the "offline upgrade" works under hood? Do I understand correctly that even "offline ugprade" will have problem with upgra

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is not possible to implement in GitLab. Features we have in here were designed to meet the needs of Fedorans that we will be forced to give up. I want to s

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 9:00 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: > > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* > > integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is > > not possible to implement in GitLab. Features we have in here were > > designed to meet

Fedora 32 Build failures on non-x86 arch - tlog

Hello, I received an email notification that some builds of the 'tlog' package are failing on aarch64 and ppc64le, with a link provided below: https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/package/tlog?collection=f32 However, on my local system these builds are successful when I run 'fedpkg scratch-build'.

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: > https://hackmd.io/@My419-DISUGgo4gcmO1D6A/HJB74lcL8 the user stories list does not seem to incl

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

On 3/30/20 2:33 PM, Petr Pisar wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:57:22PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 30. 03. 20 13:52, Petr Pisar wrote: If I undeestand the proposal correctly there there will be an ELN branch or a name space. But not by default. Only for those packages that reject the change

Re: Fedora 32 Build failures on non-x86 arch - tlog

On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 09:16:46 -0400 Justin Stephenson wrote: > Hello, > > I received an email notification that some builds of the 'tlog' > package are failing on aarch64 and ppc64le, with a link provided > below: > > https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/package/tlog?collection=f32 > > However, on

Schedule for Mondays's FESCo Meeting (2020-03-30)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2020-03-30 15:00 UTC' NOTE: DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIM

Re: Schedule for Mondays's FESCo Meeting (2020-03-30)

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:32:54PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the > FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on > irc.freenode.net. > > To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at > http://fedoraproject

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:15 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:56 AM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:31 AM Julen Landa Alustiza < > jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > >> > >> Sincelery, after reading the initial announcement, I was expecting a > >> more vis

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: > > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* > > integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is > > not possible to implement in GitLab. Features we have in here were > > designed to meet

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > > linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: > > https://hackmd.io/@My419-DISUGgo4

Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java11 . == Summary == Update the system JDK in Fedora from java-1.8.0-openjdk to java-11-openjdk. == Owner == * Name: [[User:jvanek| Jiri Vanek]] * Email: * Product: java and java stack * Responsible WG: java-sig (java and java-maint) == Detailed Descript

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:00 PM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: >> >> On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: >> > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* >> > integration across the board with Pagure, and a good chunk of it is >> > not possible to impl

Re: Upgrade tooling

On 3/30/20 3:00 PM, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote: On 3/28/20 8:59 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Yes, that is an important hurdle that Fedora generally doesn't encounter at all. Fedora usually waits until the new rpm functionality is released in older versions of Fedora before allo

Re: multiple definitions build failure on armv7hl only

On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 20:38:07 -0700 Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 3/4/20 10:09 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > Test building the latest gdl, I get the following errors only on > > armv7hl: > > > > /usr/bin/ld: CMakeFiles/gdl.dir/basic_op.cpp.o:(.rodata+0x30): > > multiple definition of `typeinfo name

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > > > linked with

[EPEL-devel] Re: RHEL8 package list

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 10:52 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 06:11:28PM +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: > > On Sunday, 29 March 2020 at 15:59, Mattia Verga wrote: > > > Is there a way to get the package list and their version available in > > > RHEL8? For exampl

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:07 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:00 PM Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM Miro Hrončok > wrote: > >> > >> On 30. 03. 20 14:13, Neal Gompa wrote: > >> > And unlike Alioth, we have*serious* > >> > integration acro

Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Module_Obsoletes_and_EOL == Summary == Fix Fedora upgradability issues when upgrading systems with module streams enabled. == Owner == * Name: [[User:dmach| Daniel Mach]] * Email: dm...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == DNF currently doesn't have suff

Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Mark libdb as deprecated

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Libdb_deprecated == Summary == This change should inform maintainers and developers about effort to remove libdb in future. == Owner == * Name: [[User:fjanus|Filip Januš]] * Email: fja...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == We would like to remove libdb

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On 30/03/2020 16:23, Till Maas wrote: For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: https://hackmd.io/@My419-DISUGgo4gcmO1D6A/HJB74lcL8 > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-disc...@

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:26 PM Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > > > For transparency,

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:36 PM Matthias Runge wrote: > On 30/03/2020 16:23, Till Maas wrote: > > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: > https://hackmd.io/@My419-DISUGgo4gcmO1D6A/HJB74lcL8

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:13 PM Julen Landa Alustiza < jla...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > > 20/3/30 13:43(e)an, Leigh Griffin igorleak idatzi zuen: > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:24 PM Iñaki Ucar > > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 13:10, Leigh

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: * Contingency mechanism: Return jdk8 as system jdk and mass rebuild again. Note, that this may be very hard, because during build of packages by jdk8, by jdk11 built dependencies will be picekd up, so build will fail. Maybe several iterations of mass rebuild

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:30:51AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Module_Obsoletes_and_EOL [...] > *** When a module stream gets removed from a Fedora release, the > maintainer of the module stream must provide a modulemd document with > Obsoletes or EOL data. >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: === Other === * Proposal owners: ** based on above, adapt jdk8 and jdk11 package provides ** If necessary tune the build environment * Other developers: ** based on selected approach to tune the main build tools *** at least jpackage-tools and maven will be

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:05 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java11 . > > == Summary == > Update the system JDK in Fedora from java-1.8.0-openjdk to java-11-openjdk. > > == Owner == > * Name: [[User:jvanek| Jiri Vanek]] > * Email: > * Product: java and java stack >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

On 3/30/20 5:11 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: >> === Other === >> * Proposal owners: >> ** based on above, adapt jdk8 and jdk11 package provides >> ** If necessary tune the build environment >> >> * Other developers: >> ** based on selected approach to tune the ma

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Monday, March 30, 2020 11:17:21 AM CEST Leigh Griffin wrote: > Thank you for your patience while the CPE Team worked through an incredible > number of requirements from multiple stakeholder sources. On Friday evening > we announced on the Community Blog >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

On 3/30/20 5:26 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:05 PM Ben Cotton wrote: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Java11 . >> >> == Summary == >> Update the system JDK in Fedora from java-1.8.0-openjdk to java-11-openjdk. >> >> == Owner == >> * Name: [[User:jvanek| Jiri V

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

On 3/30/20 5:04 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: >> * Contingency mechanism: Return jdk8 as system jdk and mass rebuild >> again. Note, that this may be very hard, because during build of >> packages by jdk8, by jdk11 built dependencies will be picekd up, so >> build

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

- Original Message - > From: "Jiri Vanek" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > , "Miro Hrončok" > , "Deepak Bhole" , "Severin Gehwolf" > , "Omair Majid" > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 11:38:34 AM > Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as s

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On 30/03/2020 17:41, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > The only problem of GitLab is that Fedora - for years - was not able to > package it. I'm not a able to judge where the packaging problem is/was, > any more info? Are we going invest into packaging it? > > Please make us 100% confident we are not goin

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:38:16PM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > The decision is made and we are proceeding to engage with Gitlab and > unfortunately that won't be reversed as a decision. I haven't expected this situation, so I've read up a bit on the whole thing. From the outside it looks t

Re: Coronavirus: Fedora RTC solutions and YOU

Il giorno sab, 28/03/2020 alle 15.13 +, Sérgio Basto ha scritto: > I will try packaging all Jitsi Meet suite [1] Cool!, if you want a beta tester on Fedora, let me know. Thanks -- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 31 Workstation) ___ dev

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:06 PM David Kaufmann wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:38:16PM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > The decision is made and we are proceeding to engage with Gitlab and > > unfortunately that won't be reversed as a decision. > > I haven't expected this situation, so

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2020-03-30)

Meeting summary --- * #2358 Drop the restriction on tagging for fedora-release (zbyszek, 15:02:45) * AGREED: drop fedora-release and fedora-repos from the secure-boot channel (+7, 0, 0) (zbyszek, 15:11:41) * #2360 RPM 4.16 and sqlite db changes for Fedora 33 (zbyszek, 15:

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

On 3/30/20 4:47 PM, Alex Scheel wrote: > For one example here, take the long-standing Debian ticket against Dogtag: > > https://www.pagure.io/dogtagpki/issue/3088 > > OpenJDK 11 moved to TLS v1.3, but didn't fully implement the spec: PHA isn't > available. This is a requirement for our particular

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:13:03PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > I'm afraid that this won't be good enough. Other (Fedora) builds will be > submitted with lower prio as well. For example our Python 3.N+1 rebuilds are > usually submitted as such, so the wave of 3k packages doesn't block > individu

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Sqlite RpmDB

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:41:08PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: ...snip... > > No such things needed at this time. The database change is a separate change > and does NOT come bundled with RPM 4.16, we'll only even consider switching > that once 4.16 has had a proper shakedown. ok, great. > >

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Sqlite RpmDB

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:46 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:41:08PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > If it was up to us only, I recon we'd be looking to switch over to sqlite > > somewhere between 2-4 weeks from the time 4.16 lands in rawhide but our > > schedule is flexibl

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: java-11-openjdk as system JDK in F33

On 30. 03. 20 17:47, Jiri Vanek wrote: On 3/30/20 5:04 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 30. 03. 20 16:04, Ben Cotton wrote: * Contingency mechanism: Return jdk8 as system jdk and mass rebuild again. Note, that this may be very hard, because during build of packages by jdk8, by jdk11 built dependencie

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change Proposal: ELN Buildroot and Compose V2

Petr Pisar writes: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 12:56:42AM +0100, clime wrote: > >> You can make a separate namespace for this in dist-git. It doesn't >> need to be a separate branch. That way, you won't be disturbing >> anyone elses space. > > A different name space means a different repository. Th

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