On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 07:48:07AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said:
> > The only real problem with hardlinks is that you can't partition them
> > out across volumes. And some filesystems aren't hardlink-safe.
>
> The proposal is for hardlinking under /usr - there's n
I was watching the discussion thread, but missed this thread
here. Sorry for the lack of replies. But fortunately people answered
most of the questions, so I'll just provide some clarifications.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 08:44:23AM -0400, Ben Beasley wrote:
> I agree that symlinks have a few advanta
On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 08:44:58AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 11:25:26PM +0100, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce
> wrote:
> > Hare is a systems programming language designed to be simple, stable,
> > and robust. Hare uses a static t
On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 11:25:26PM +0100, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce
wrote:
> Hare is a systems programming language designed to be simple, stable,
> and robust. Hare uses a static type system, manual memory management,
> and a minimal runtime. It is well-suited to writing operating systems,
> In the example, the print queue called `ricoh` uses the affected PPD options.
>
> If its values are not allowed, the following situation will happen:
>
>
> $ lp -d ricoh /etc/fstab
> $ journalctl -u cups -r
> ...
> Job stopped due to filter errors; please consult the syslog file for details.
>
On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 11:08:07PM +0100, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce
wrote:
> Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Greenboot_RS_Change_Proposal
> == Summary ==
> A rewrite of Greenboot written in Rust will be released, designed for
> use with bootc and rpm-ostree based systems. Thi
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> Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/StaticLibraryPreserveDebuginfo
> Discussion thread -
> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f43-change-proposal-lets-preserve-debuginfo-in-static-libraries-system-wid
On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 07:51:47AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 02, 2025 at 06:14:15PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi via devel-announce
> wrote:
> > If you are trying to use the new src.fedoraproject.org server, you may have
> > noticed it's ssh host keys
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> If you are trying to use the new src.fedoraproject.org server, you may have
> noticed it's ssh host keys changed. In the past we kept the old keys
> but this time we made a clean break. You can verify the keys by gett
pagure.io is down because of the data center move, so it's hard to
even assemble an agenda. I don't think we have anything urgent, and
some folks are away for holidays anyway, so let's skip the meeting
today.
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> Wiki -
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Remove_DNF_modularity_support_from_Anaconda
> Without this change the
> [[Changes/Switch_Anaconda_installer_to_DNF5|migration to DNF 5]] will
> be more troublesome as DNF 5 is missing the requested API right now.
Is there a plan to also drop the c
Meeting was canceled because of lack of quourum.
I'll chair the next meeting.
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> There appear to be a number of Change Proposals stuck at various
> points of the pipeline (likely due to flock / devconf.cz), so it might
> just be that they haven't been submitted to FESCo yet ...
> There are also a few that have b
There are no tickets for the agenda, so I'm cancelling today's
meeting. I'll prepare/chair the next meeting too.
= Discussed and Voted in the Ticket =
#3416 Change: Deprecate the async-std Rust crate
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3416
APPROVED (+3, 0, 0)
#3417 Change: Anaconda WebUI for Fedora S
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2372289
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Hi folks,
We want to unretire efitools because it's the only software that
allows dealing with detached signatures for authvars. It was
retired because of openssl engine support is deprecated. We prepared
a build with support for engines removed, hence the idea to unretire
the package.
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 03:17:56PM +0200, Jan Stanek wrote:
> Hello everyone!
> Recently, we tried to enable the upstream test suite to be run when
> building NodeJS packages, and we ran into a Y2038 bug (see [1] for the
> moment we noticed it). There are also some upstream issues [2] related
> to
Hi!
We have nothing on the agenda. Also no tickets to announce here.
And many people are travelling to DevConf.cz. The meeting is
cancelled today.
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On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 12:25:39PM +0200, Michal Schorm wrote:
> How can I tell my HW has this configuration?
'bootctl' prints the firmware architecture. I don't have a 32-bit
version at hand to test, but in principle it should work.
$ bootctl | head -n3
System:
Firmware: UEFI 2.70 (Lenovo
On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 12:12:32PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Leigh Scott said:
> > Try
> >
> > sudo dnf swap *\openh264\* noopenh264
>
> Despite the same "conflicting requests" message, that does it:
>
> ***
On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 08:22:45PM +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> * Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek [28/05/2025 15:24] :
> >
> > No, I don't think we'll make the issue public. Among other reasons,
> > there is a lot of discussion about personal matters. Making it public
On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 11:35:04AM +0200, Michael J Gruber wrote:
> Matthew Miller venit, vidit, dixit 2025-05-22 17:15:12:
> > The Fedora Council overturns FESCo's decision [3284] to remove Proven
> > Packager rights from a contributor.
> >
> > FESCo didn't have a specific policy for dealing with
On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 06:09:15PM +0200, Simon de Vlieger wrote:
> Hey Matthew (and rest of council),
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2025, at 5:15 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > The Fedora Council overturns FESCo's decision [3284] to remove Proven
> > Packager rights from a contributor.
>
> The linked issue
On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 12:58:58PM -, Alex Haydock wrote:
> Fedora Atomic bug documented here:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2359764
>
> I think this bug comes from the systemtap .spec's use of traditional (non
> sysusers.d) methods to handle user creation. I tried to author
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On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 07:55:53PM +0100, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce
wrote:
> == Benefit to Fedora ==
> This aligns us with the effort going on upstream to retire the GNOME
> X11 session. It also aligns us with Fedora KDE. Like the Fedora KDE
> SIG, the Fedora Workstation WG recommends and s
On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 02:13:30PM -, Martin Gansser wrote:
> is it possible for the user “%{vdr_user}” to be a member of the group audio,
> cdrom and dialout ?
>
> # Create a sysusers.d config file
> cat >vdr.sysusers.conf < #Type Name IDGECOS Home di
On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 04:09:17PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Di, 15.04.25 14:27, Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) wrote:
>
> > Thanks for posting this!
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025, at 6:55 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >
> > >
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 10:15:20AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 10:11 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 09:37:24AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 9:28 AM Zbigniew Jędr
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 09:37:24AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 9:28 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 03:57:42PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > I don't follow? The UID assignments are stored
On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 03:57:42PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> I don't follow? The UID assignments are stored in /etc/passwd,
> i.e. your example config file and the UID assignment are stored at the
> same place, so how can they get out of sync?
rpm-ostree and bootc attempt to merge the loc
On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 07:49:17AM -, Martin Gansser wrote:
> Problem: conflicting requests
> - nothing provides user(vdr) needed by vdr-tvscraper-1.2.13-1.fc43.x86_64
> from local
This seems to a bug in the vdr-tvscaper package.
It has an "owned file":
> %files
> %attr(-,%{vdr_user},root)
On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 02:34:33PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 2:24 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 06:52:43PM +0200, Alexander Sosedkin wrote:
> > > The problem stems entirely from UIDs and GUDs being numbe
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 06:52:43PM +0200, Alexander Sosedkin wrote:
> The problem stems entirely from UIDs and GUDs being numbers
> and not strings. I see this as a peculiarity of some of the filesystems,
> you target. Say, tar is a filesystem that does not have this problem.
> The specific dynamic
On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 01:37:47PM +1000, Ian Laurie via devel wrote:
> On 16/4/25 12:40, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
> > dnf reinstall filesystem -y | cat
>
> Thanks, that provides the clue.
>
> /usr/sbin cannot be merged, /usr/sbin/expressvpnd points to
> /usr/bin/expressvpnd
> /usr/sbin cannot be m
On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 08:00:44AM +0200, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
> iscsi-initiator-utils-6.2.1.10-0.gitd0f04ae.fc41.1.x86_64
> iscsi-initiator-utils-iscsiuio-6.2.1.10-0.gitd0f04ae.fc41.1.x86_64
iscsi-initiator-utils-6.2.1.10-0.gitd0f04ae.fc42.3 was built, but
the automatic update was unpushed
On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 06:26:00PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> When building in Koji, /sbin & /usr/sbin are symlinks to /usr/bin.
> In meson.build libvirt searchs for a bunch of programs, unfortunately
> searching in /sbin & /usr/sbin, before /bin & /usr/bin. The qualified
> paths of the pro
On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:47:08PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 15-Apr-25 2:30 AM, Ian Laurie via devel wrote:
> > On 14/4/25 21:14, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> >> As I understand it, the migration will happen automatically as soon as
> >> it is possible, so you *can't* do it earlier manu
On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 08:47:51PM +0900, Dominique Martinet wrote:
> Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote on Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 01:18:52PM +0200:
> > I wonder where from all those "not owned by any package" files came from.
> > This system is about 12 years old (was Fedora 19 at start).
>
> I have a simila
On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 10:29:59AM +0200, Michael J Gruber wrote:
> Rajeesh K V venit, vidit, dixit 2025-04-14 06:19:33:
> > > During the upgrade I've noticed this message output in the console:
> > > /usr/sbin cannot be merged, /usr/sbin/arptables points to
> > > /etc/alternatives/arptables
> > >
Hi,
When a system is _upgraded_ to F42, we try to "merge", by making
/usr/sbin a symlink to /usr/bin. This is blocked when a package lists
files under /usr/sbin. It'd be great to rebuild/update those packages,
so that the upgraded systems reach the intended state and look the
same as new installat
Hi folks,
[I'm writing this on Colin's suggestion, to introduce more people to
the discussion and hopefully get some new ideas how to solve the
problem. Apologies for the length.]
The problem: when packages have files owned by a user or group that
are part of the package contents ("owned files" f
Hi folks,
A few years ago we had the initalitive to get rid of problematic terms
like "master"/"slave". Git changed its default branch name to 'main',
we changed our default dist-git name to 'rawhide' (*). We also
adjusted various terms in documentation in many places.
But some pockets of stale n
On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 03:35:06PM -0400, Eduard Lucena wrote:
> Can we go ahead in time and let kevin to create the gdm-x11 package? We
> already know how this is going to be:
>
> - The SIG is going to say they don't have bandwidth, hands or time to
> support tickets with problems for x11
> - Kev
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 06:23:53AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 4:40 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 08:04:57AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > > Dne 19. 03. 25 v 7:48 odp. Aoife Moloney via devel-announce
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 10:48:59AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 31 2025 at 10:53:54 AM +00:00:00, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> > This is only "SHOULD", because sometimes the git tarball is too large
> > or has other deficiencies. Another
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 06:36:09AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 6:33 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 06:23:53AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 4:40 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
>
On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 06:30:58PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > 3)
> > I added the '%sysusers_create_compat' macro to my code:
> >
> > https://src.fedoraproject.org/fork/mschorm/rpms/mariadb10.11/commits/sysusers
> > but it doesn't w
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 08:54:45AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore via devel wrote:
> Failed to resolve the transaction:
> Problem 1: installed package python3-qt5-webkit-5.15.10-11.fc41.x86_64
> requires python3-qt5(x86-64) = 5.15.10-11.fc41, but none of the
> providers can be installed
> - python3-qt5-5.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 12:39:49PM +, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce
wrote:
> == User Experience ==
> `lastlog` and `pam_lastlog` don't exist anymore and are replaced by
> `lastlog2` and `pam_lastlog2`. They should behave in a similar manner
> to the aforementioned artifacts, thus no other c
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 01:24:06PM +0200, Alexander Sosedkin wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 12:56 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> Just one question: how would you make those git forges output stable archives?
> GitHub itself explicitly says they won't and you shouldn't d
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 01:39:57PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 31/03/2025 12:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > This is inspired by the discussion in "Reproducible Builds" mailing list,
> > in particular [1].
>
> But auto-generated Git archiv
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 01:14:42PM +0200, Michael J Gruber wrote:
> > This is only "SHOULD", because sometimes the git tarball is too large
> > or has other deficiencies. Another reason is that the "upstream
> > tarball" may be signed, and that'd be preferred to the unsigned "raw"
> > archive. But
On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 12:35:39PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 01:14:42PM +0200, Michael J Gruber wrote:
>
> > Let me also mention the case where we have to clean sources (proprietary
> > material) before committing to the look-aside cache. We should document
> > how
tl;dr: change the Packaging Guidelines to recommend the raw "git
archive" or equivalent over the upstream tarball produced using
"make dist".
This is inspired by the discussion in "Reproducible Builds" mailing list,
in particular [1].
Background: upstreams use version control for their projects,
On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 02:26:37PM +0100, Michal Schorm wrote:
> Hi Zbyszek,
>
> I encountered several things during testing I want to bring up.
>
> 1)
> The output on Fedora Rawhide always look like this:
> | >>> Running unknown scriptlet: mariadb-server-3:10.11.11-200.fc43.x86_64
>
> The ter
On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 11:04:16AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 12:39:49PM +, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce
> wrote:
> > == User Experience ==
> > `lastlog` and `pam_lastlog` don't exist anymore and are replaced by
> >
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 07:33:22AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> And it screws up both package builds and image builds in weird ways.
> For example, two builds of fish cannot run at the same time in Koji
> because the test suite will lock up and fail due to shared devfs
> devices from the host into th
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 11:16:55AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 20. 03. 25 v 10:26 dop. Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a):
> > Can we discuss it here, at least in the rough outline?
>
> Sure. I think Pavel will anwer it better. He should be back on Monday.
>
> >
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 09:57:23AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> * mingw packages have irreproducible debug data.
>
> Anything more information about this? What is it about the "debug
> data" which is a problem, and can anything be done about it?
>
> I assume this refers to files like
> /us
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 10:10:23AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 20. 03. 25 v 9:39 dop. Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a):
> > > https://rpm-software-management.github.io/mock/feature-hermetic-builds
> > Yes, thanks for the link. I think this didn't exist when I st
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 10:13:25AM +0100, Simon de Vlieger wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2025, at 9:18 AM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>
> > Can we have this run as part of the post-build gating tests, so
> > that we have a single place to look for test results, along with
> > the option for maintainers
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 08:18:15AM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 06:48:21PM +, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce
> wrote:
> >
> > == Scope ==
> > * Proposal owners:
> > ** Package [https://github.com/keszybz/fedora-repro-build
> > fedora-repro-build] to allow local
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 08:04:57AM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 19. 03. 25 v 7:48 odp. Aoife Moloney via devel-announce napsal(a):
> > == Scope ==
> > * Proposal owners:
> > ** Package [https://github.com/keszybz/fedora-repro-build
> > fedora-repro-build] to allow local rebuilds of historical
On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 09:00:09AM +0100, Dmitry Belyavskiy wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> > We are aware of some issues that cannot be fixed easily:
> > * Haskell packages are not reproducible when compiled with more than
> > one thread. Upstream is
> > [https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/12935
On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 06:43:09PM -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
> Problem 6: package hyperscan-devel-5.4.1-8.fc42.x86_64 from fedora requires
> hyperscan(x86-64) = 5.4.1-8.fc42, but none of the providers can be installed
> - package vectorscan-5.4.11-9.fc42.x86_64 from fedora obsoletes hyperscan <
On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 02:59:09PM -0600, Jerry James wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 12:05 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> > * TOPIC: #3377 cmake 4.0 breaks compatibility, was updated without a Change
> > Request (@zbyszek:fedora.im, 17:15:59)
> >
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> Problem 2: installed package kf5-kitinerary-23.08.5-3.fc41.x86_64 requires
> libpoppler.so.140()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed
> - installed package kf5-kitinerary-23.08.5-3.fc41.x86_64 requires
> libpoppler.so
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> On 2025/03/18 0:56, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
>
> > Cristian Le via devel wrote:
> > > Coming back to `LIB_SUFFIX` and `*_INSTALL_DIR`, those should have never
> > > been added globally [2]
> > Why not?
>
> All of those,
On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 04:50:49PM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 02. 01. 25 v 7:08 odp. Steve Grubb napsal(a):
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would recommend a change to the testing description. See below...
> >
> > On Tuesday, December 24, 2024 11:01:11 AM EST Aoife Moloney via devel-
> > announce wr
On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 04:13:14PM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 02. 01. 25 v 7:08 odp. Steve Grubb napsal(a):
> > > Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RPMSuportForSystemdSysusers
> > > Discussion thread -
> > > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f42-change-proposal-rpm-support-
On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 01:49:56PM +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> I am probably late to the party, but I recently got one of these mass
> commits and I wonder why these sysuser.d files are in %files section as
> ordinary files and not as %config?
Because they are not config files and must not be e
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 06:54:32PM -0400, Julian Anderson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> My name is Julian Anderson, and I'm a sysadmin based in the US!
>
> I have been a very happy EL user for a few years now, and recently I became
> interested in updating EPEL builds for some packages I'd gotten used
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 11:56:43AM -0400, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> Having tried to dive into Konflux for a bit, I think the major problem is
> that it keeps getting referred to in the wrong format. It isn't a koji
> replacement, it is a Fedora Build System replacement.
Yes, 100%. But I think this
On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 07:08:07PM +0100, Michal Schorm wrote:
> Hi Zbyszek,
>
> I hoped I'd resolve the PRs for MariaDB and MySQL by the beginning of this
> week,
> however I got sick, and I can't continue at this moment.
I'm sorry to hear that. Hope you feel better soon.
>
> https://src.fe
On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 10:43:25AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Below is the list of PRs to merge. They all pass CI or the CI failed
> for unrelated reasons. I'll look at each PR before merging, so if
> there is an ongoing discussion or requests from the maintaine
On Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 07:41:31PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > We should probably try and get this into Fedora proper, right? Ideally
> > everything needed by Fedora infrastructure is in Fedora itself, it took us
> > a few years to get there with mailman so the earlier we start the better
> >
>
On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 05:02:27PM +0100, Michal Schorm wrote:
> Yes, MariaDB packs it's own sysusers file.
>
> | # cat /usr/lib/sysusers.d/mariadb.conf
> | u mysql - "MariaDB" /var/lib/mysql
>
> however it wasn't used.
> Instead, the preinstall scriptlet (which I maintained to be identical
>
On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 12:02:52PM -, Filip Bartmann wrote:
> Hello,
> I update Fedora 41 to Fedora 42 prerelase and I have some problems, notably
> * in GDM are not listen non wayland sessions
That might be because of the packaging changes releated to X11
becoming ever more deprecated. But af
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 10:58:40PM -0600, Jason Tibbitts via packaging wrote:
> >>>>> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek writes:
>
> > Let's take a step back. Does it make sense to implement complicated
> > and fragile scriptlets in packages?
>
> No, of c
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 03:26:44PM +0100, Michal Schorm wrote:
> I started testing the patches in MariaDB and MySQL.
> I merged PRs to other packages, but since MariaDB and MySQL share the
> same user and group config, I want to check if it works fine for them
> in various combinations.
>
> Howeve
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 10:47:36AM +0100, Jarek Prokop via packaging wrote:
> Hi,
>
> recently we were faced with a bug that caused an infinite loop in a
> container. It was from a package (node.js) retaining a scriptlet to replace
> a directory as recommended in Fedora Guidelines [0].
> Thoughts?
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 09:56:43AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 05. 03. 25 9:22, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > Hmm, this seems to be an unfinished retirement. We have
> > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/torque/
> > c/5f8d64fc9a899f4b94e63685a29f4cc95ef2f829
&
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 03:47:30PM -, Artur Frenszek-Iwicki wrote:
> Tested on three machines running Fedora 41; two of them were a-okay, one had
> some errors:
>
> > Problem 1: installed package libreoffice-writer2latex-1.0.2-38.fc37.x86_64
> > requires osgi(javax.xml), but none of the prov
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 11:24:53PM +0100, Charalampos Stratakis wrote:
> On my x86_64:
>
> Problem 1: installed package libreoffice-writer2latex-1.0.2-39.fc38.x86_64
> requires osgi(javax.xml), but none of the providers can be installed
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/fedora-obsolete-packages/
Hi fellow packagers,
About three weeks ago, pull requests to convert packages to use sysusers
and/or to drop calls to %sysusers_create_compat were filed. So far
50% have been merged or otherwise handled (149 merged, 29 closed, 178
remaining).
In the beginning quite a few PRs were merged quickly,
On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 08:56:33AM -0500, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>
>
> On 2/13/25 3:32 AM, Clement Verna wrote:
>
> > Given our experience running these tests, we would like to propose making
> > the coreos.cosa.build-and-testa required gate for package updates in
> > rawhide. We've already been s
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On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 01:15:27PM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > Anybody who is still relying on engines needs to start
> > looking at a transition, the earlier the better. At best,
> > you’re buying yourself a year by rejecting t
On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 09:06:15AM -0500, Ben Beasley wrote:
> I would also point out that incompatible updates are still supposed to be
> announced a week in advance, with all impacted packages’ maintainers CC’ed
> or BCC’ed. This allows a week for someone to read their email and speak up
> about
On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 06:27:42PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 5:13 PM Miro Hrončok wrote:
> >
> > On 21. 02. 25 12:41, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 1:17 PM Miro Hrončok wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hello.
> > >>
> > >> With the recent discussions about
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