Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

W dniu 14.04.2025 o 13:18, Marcin Juszkiewicz pisze: I wanted to check it on my local system: [..] I wonder where from all those "not owned by any package" files came from. This system is about 12 years old (was Fedora 19 at start). I took some time with https://packages.debian.org/ and fo

Re: Update to F42, keyboard no longer works?

On 4/15/25 8:09 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Thanks! I'm not totally sure of the status of bugzilla.kernel.org ATM, though. Some things sent there don't go anywhere, unfortunately. It actually just opened a ticket on the linux-usb list. https://lore.kernel.org/linux-usb/bug-220016-208...@https.b

Fedora eln compose report: 20250416.n.0 changes

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Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

On 16/4/25 13:37, Ian Laurie via devel wrote: On 16/4/25 12:40, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: dnf reinstall filesystem -y | cat Thanks, that provides the clue. /usr/sbin cannot be merged, /usr/sbin/expressvpnd points to /usr/bin/ expressvpnd /usr/sbin cannot be merged, /usr/sbin/expressvpnd points

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

On 16/4/25 12:40, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: dnf reinstall filesystem -y | cat Thanks, that provides the clue. /usr/sbin cannot be merged, /usr/sbin/expressvpnd points to /usr/bin/expressvpnd /usr/sbin cannot be merged, /usr/sbin/expressvpnd points to /usr/bin/expressvpnd Seems a bit weird sin

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 12:52 AM Ian Laurie via devel wrote: > Reinstalling filesystem doesn't provide messaging relating to the merge > script. As I recall (someone else posted this) you need to do a: dnf reinstall filesystem -y | cat to get the essential messages about the why. Perhaps o

Re: Update to F42, keyboard no longer works?

On Tue, 2025-04-15 at 19:33 -0500, Joe Doss wrote: > On 4/15/25 6:54 PM, Joe Doss wrote: > > On 4/15/25 5:31 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I wouldn't necessarily assume you're both seeing the same bug. Also, > > > this is very likely to be an upstream bug, as we don't really do > > > anything mu

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

On 16/4/25 09:54, Ian Laurie via devel wrote: I then removed iptables-legacy also, now I have nothing going to /etc/ alternatives but still no merge, weird. Reinstalling filesystem doesn't provide messaging relating to the merge script. Running transaction [1/4] Verify package files

Re: Update to F42, keyboard no longer works?

On 4/15/25 6:54 PM, Joe Doss wrote: On 4/15/25 5:31 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: I wouldn't necessarily assume you're both seeing the same bug. Also, this is very likely to be an upstream bug, as we don't really do anything much to USB support in the downstream kernel. It probably needs to be repo

Re: rpm-ostree/bootc uid/gid drift problem

Hi Andrew, thanks for your reply. On Tue, Apr 15, 2025, at 7:22 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > So imagine that /etc/opencryptoki was > owned by root (or maybe, in a no-modes-maximalist world it was really > /etc/secret/opencryptoki and /etc/secret and everything under it was > only readable by ro

Re: Update to F42, keyboard no longer works?

On 4/15/25 5:31 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: I wouldn't necessarily assume you're both seeing the same bug. Also, this is very likely to be an upstream bug, as we don't really do anything much to USB support in the downstream kernel. It probably needs to be reported upstream to the linux-usb mailin

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

On 16/4/25 09:41, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: I *think* all those are part of the iptables-nft package if you want to try to remove that package, and see if the merge can be completed. Well removing iptables-nft made the list smaller: ip6tables -> /etc/alternatives/ip6tables ip6tables-restore -> /e

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:26 PM Ian Laurie via devel wrote: > > Thanks guys. Seems in may case more that just a couple: > ... I *think* all those are part of the iptables-nft package if you want to try to remove that package, and see if the merge can be completed. -- _

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

On 15/4/25 22:40, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:47:08PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: ls -l | grep /etc/alternatives then you will likely find a couple of symlinks using the alternatives framework. Once that's done, the upgraded systems should get the merge aut

Re: rpm-ostree/bootc uid/gid drift problem

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 3:55 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > ** Details of the problem ** > > I know the summary above is dense. Let's go through an example: > > - Package opencryptoki defines group pkcs11. This group uses "dynamic > allocation", i.e. the specific numeric gid is select

Re: Update to F42, keyboard no longer works?

On Tue, 2025-04-15 at 18:15 -0400, Steven A. Falco wrote: > On 4/15/25 05:37 PM, Joe Doss wrote: > > On 4/15/25 4:22 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote: > > > I just completed an upgrade to f42, and I could not log in to my main > > > machine because I could not type my password! > > > > > > I tried using

Re: Update to F42, keyboard no longer works?

On 4/15/25 2:59 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote: On 4/15/25 05:34 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/15/25 2:22 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote: I just completed an upgrade to f42, and I could not log in to my main machine because I could not type my password! I tried using the older f41 kernel, and then I coul

Re: Update to F42, keyboard no longer works?

On 4/15/25 05:37 PM, Joe Doss wrote: On 4/15/25 4:22 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote: I just completed an upgrade to f42, and I could not log in to my main machine because I could not type my password! I tried using the older f41 kernel, and then I could log in, so it appears to be something in the

Re: Update to F42, keyboard no longer works?

On 4/15/25 05:34 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/15/25 2:22 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote: I just completed an upgrade to f42, and I could not log in to my main machine because I could not type my password! I tried using the older f41 kernel, and then I could log in, so it appears to be something in

Re: Update to F42, keyboard no longer works?

On 4/15/25 4:22 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote: I just completed an upgrade to f42, and I could not log in to my main machine because I could not type my password! I tried using the older f41 kernel, and then I could log in, so it appears to be something in the f42 kernel. I have several machines

Re: Heads-up: openshadinglanguage 1.14.5.0 coming to Rawhide

I built this, and the update has been pushed to stable in Rawhide. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2025-b05e27f811 I’m not planning to propose an OpenColorIO 3.x or OpenImageIO 3.x update PR in the near future, but if you do start working on one or both of those, then I’ll try to

Re: Update to F42, keyboard no longer works?

On 4/15/25 2:22 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote: I just completed an upgrade to f42, and I could not log in to my main machine because I could not type my password! I tried using the older f41 kernel, and then I could log in, so it appears to be something in the f42 kernel. I have several machines

Update to F42, keyboard no longer works?

I just completed an upgrade to f42, and I could not log in to my main machine because I could not type my password! I tried using the older f41 kernel, and then I could log in, so it appears to be something in the f42 kernel. I have several machines here, and most of them work fine with f42 an

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 05:53:36PM +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 4:10 PM Daniel P. Berrangé > wrote: > > > Can we just stop building for i686 in Fedora in general, instead of burning > > maintainer time figuring out deps problems like this... ? What's the > > blocker an

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On 4/15/25 12:21 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025, 18:14 Stephen Smoogen > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 at 12:10, Daniel P. Berrangé > mailto:berra...@redhat.com>> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:43:38AM -0400, Cole Robin

Re: rpm-ostree/bootc uid/gid drift problem

Thanks for posting this! On Tue, Apr 15, 2025, at 6:55 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > This was a known problem for rpm-ostree systems, and was handled > ad-hoc when problems were reported, but is becoming a bigger problem > for bootc systems. To be clear though, I think this is a gener

Re: packages with files in /usr/sbin blocking bin-sbin merge

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 06:26:00PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > When building in Koji, /sbin & /usr/sbin are symlinks to /usr/bin. > In meson.build libvirt searchs for a bunch of programs, unfortunately > searching in /sbin & /usr/sbin, before /bin & /usr/bin. The qualified > paths of the pro

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 4:10 PM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > Can we just stop building for i686 in Fedora in general, instead of burning > maintainer time figuring out deps problems like this... ? What's the > blocker and how much longer do we have to put up with its burden in Fedora ? Was there

Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/qemu/pull-request/83 Previous discussion: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/C2U5RBADZB2ZUMR74PLNV73C3AIPSLWH/#C2U5RBADZB2ZUMR74PLNV73C3AIPSLWH qemu currently builds binaries for i686, see eg: https://koji.fedorapr

Re: packages with files in /usr/sbin blocking bin-sbin merge

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:20:29AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Hi, > > When a system is _upgraded_ to F42, we try to "merge", by making > /usr/sbin a symlink to /usr/bin. This is blocked when a package lists > files under /usr/sbin. Slight tangent, but I've just discovered an unan

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

Once upon a time, Daniel P. Berrangé said: > Ultimately as a Fedora maintainer I came here to make OSS software great. > When we get to the point that proprietary software needs are imposing a > burden on Fedora maintainers that diverts resources away from making OSS > great, that's a bad tradeoff

No FESCo meeting today

Dear all, Given today is the US deadline for tax filing, and also the day Fedora 42 came out, there was uncertainty about whether there will be quorum for the FESCo meeting today. Given that there is no agenda posted yet, we've decided to skip the meeting this week and convene next week instead;

Re: packages with files in /usr/sbin blocking bin-sbin merge

Hi, On 15-Apr-25 13:20, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Hi, > > When a system is _upgraded_ to F42, we try to "merge", by making > /usr/sbin a symlink to /usr/bin. This is blocked when a package lists > files under /usr/sbin. It'd be great to rebuild/update those packages, > so that the upgr

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:43:47AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 05:40:43 PM +01:00:00, Richard W.M. Jones > wrote: > > I've no argument that Webex is hot proprietary garbage, just saying > > that it was once noted as being a blocker. > > Let's agree that anything we ca

The answer is here: Fedora Linux 42!

Fedora Linux 42 is now officially available! Read the details in our Fedora Magazine article at: * https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-linux-42 or download installer images from: * https://fedoraproject.org/ or, of course, simply upgrade your already-installed systems, which shouldn't

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025, 18:32 Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:21 PM Fabio Valentini > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025, 18:14 Stephen Smoogen wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 at 12:10, Daniel P. Berrangé > wrote: > >>> > >>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:43:38AM -040

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 05:40:43 PM +01:00:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I've no argument that Webex is hot proprietary garbage, just saying that it was once noted as being a blocker. Let's agree that anything we cannot fix also cannot be a blocker. Third-party proprietary software has had two

Re: GDM dropped support for running X11 sessions in F42 without a Change?

On Tue, 2025-04-15 at 00:23 +0200, Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: > I've opened a PR which restores gdm/X11 support > at: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gdm/pull-request/28# > > It builds, I'll be able to test it in a few hours, but anybody is > free and welcome to give it a try once the scratch b

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:32:35AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 05:18:06 PM +01:00:00, Richard W.M. Jones > wrote: > >What about Webex, the awful video conferencing software? I've no > >desire to investigate this, but ISTR it linked to system i686 libs. > > Irrelevant

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 12:31:48 PM -04:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: This is rude and uncalled for. The Flatpak is an unsupported way to use Steam since it has issues with gamepads, can't access game drives, and messes with the built-in sandbox provided by Steam. OK, but we surely cannot block i

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

Once upon a time, Michael Catanzaro said: > Irrelevant. Webex has a web UI. Use that instead. Continuing to > build i686 packages just to support the native application would be > ridiculous. I don't know the specifics of Webex, but "has a web UI" doesn't always replace desktop applications. Oft

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 06:21:20PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025, 18:14 Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 at 12:10, Daniel P. Berrangé > > wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:43:38AM -0400, Cole Robinson wrote: > >> > > >> > Has anyone gone th

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 05:18:06 PM +01:00:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: What about Webex, the awful video conferencing software? I've no desire to investigate this, but ISTR it linked to system i686 libs. Irrelevant. Webex has a web UI. Use that instead. Continuing to build i686 packages jus

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:21 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025, 18:14 Stephen Smoogen wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 at 12:10, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:43:38AM -0400, Cole Robinson wrote: >>> > >>> > Has anyone gone through the effort

Re: Soname bump: libcamera

Fabio Valentini writes: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 6:30 PM Milan Zamazal wrote: >> >> I created side tag f43-build-side-109750 and built libcamera there > >> (without libpisp for now). >> >> Wim, would you like to rebuild pipewire-plugin-libcamera there when you >> have some time? >> >> libcamera

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025, 18:14 Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 at 12:10, Daniel P. Berrangé > wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:43:38AM -0400, Cole Robinson wrote: >> > >> > Has anyone gone through the effort of removing i686 from a wide reaching >> > non-leaf package? Any adv

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:14:08PM -0400, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 at 12:10, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:43:38AM -0400, Cole Robinson wrote: > > > > Has anyone gone through the effort of removing i686 from a wide reaching > >

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 at 12:10, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:43:38AM -0400, Cole Robinson wrote: > > > > Has anyone gone through the effort of removing i686 from a wide reaching > > non-leaf package? Any advice appreciated > > Can we just stop building for i686 in Fedora i

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:43:38AM -0400, Cole Robinson wrote: > > Has anyone gone through the effort of removing i686 from a wide reaching > non-leaf package? Any advice appreciated Can we just stop building for i686 in Fedora in general, instead of burning maintainer time figuring out deps prob

Fedora CoreOS rebasing to Fedora Linux 42

Fedora Linux 42 was released today[[1]]. The Fedora CoreOS `testing` stream has been rebased and is currently rolling out. This update will come to the `stable` stream in a few weeks. For more information about Fedora 42, see the Fedora Project’s list of official Changes[[2]] and the Fedora C

Re: Switch gnome-software to use a dnf5 plugin in rawhide

On Tue, 2025-04-15 at 11:28 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > So is this using the dnf5-daemon over dbus, or is this > directly invoking dnf5 ? Hi, it's using the D-Bus API, calling the dnf5daemon-server under the hood. Bye, Milan -- __

[Bug 2359331] perl-Tie-Cycle-1.231 is available

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2359331 --- Comment #1 from Upstream Release Monitoring --- Scratch build failed. Details below: BuilderException: Build failed: Command '['rpmbuild', '-D', '_sourcedir .', '-D', '_topdir .', '-bs', '/var/tmp/thn-5_is4_hb/perl-Tie-Cycle.spec']' retu

Re: Orphaned libsoup

I've reported some issues to upstream projects I"m more or less affiliated with to consider migrating to libsoup3, so the list of `dnf repoquery --whatrequires=libsoup` can get a bit smaller instead: geany-plugins-geniuspaste: https://github.com/geany/geany-plugins/issues/1422 geany-plugins-update

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

On 4/15/25 3:56 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/qemu/pull-request/83 > > Previous discussion: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/C2U5RBADZB2ZUMR74PLNV73C3AIPSLWH/#C2U5RBADZB2ZUMR74PLNV73C3AIPSLWH > > qemu current

Re: GDM dropped support for running X11 sessions in F42 without a Change?

On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 12:23:06 AM +02:00:00, Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: I've opened a PR which restores gdm/X11 support at: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gdm/pull-request/28# It builds, I'll be able to test it in a few hours, but anybody is free and welcome to give it a try once the

Re: packages with files in /usr/sbin blocking bin-sbin merge

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:20:29AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Hi, > > When a system is _upgraded_ to F42, we try to "merge", by making > /usr/sbin a symlink to /usr/bin. This is blocked when a package lists > files under /usr/sbin. It'd be great to rebuild/update those packages, >

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 12:47:08PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 15-Apr-25 2:30 AM, Ian Laurie via devel wrote: > > On 14/4/25 21:14, Fabio Valentini wrote: > >> As I understand it, the migration will happen automatically as soon as > >> it is possible, so you *can't* do it earlier manu

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 08:47:51PM +0900, Dominique Martinet wrote: > Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote on Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 01:18:52PM +0200: > > I wonder where from all those "not owned by any package" files came from. > > This system is about 12 years old (was Fedora 19 at start). > > I have a simila

Re: packages with files in /usr/sbin blocking bin-sbin merge

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 6:20 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > Hi, > > When a system is _upgraded_ to F42, we try to "merge", by making > /usr/sbin a symlink to /usr/bin. This is blocked when a package lists > files under /usr/sbin. It'd be great to rebuild/update those

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 10:29:59AM +0200, Michael J Gruber wrote: > Rajeesh K V venit, vidit, dixit 2025-04-14 06:19:33: > > > During the upgrade I've noticed this message output in the console: > > > /usr/sbin cannot be merged, /usr/sbin/arptables points to > > > /etc/alternatives/arptables > > >

packages with files in /usr/sbin blocking bin-sbin merge

Hi, When a system is _upgraded_ to F42, we try to "merge", by making /usr/sbin a symlink to /usr/bin. This is blocked when a package lists files under /usr/sbin. It'd be great to rebuild/update those packages, so that the upgraded systems reach the intended state and look the same as new installat

rpm-ostree/bootc uid/gid drift problem

Hi folks, [I'm writing this on Colin's suggestion, to introduce more people to the discussion and hopefully get some new ideas how to solve the problem. Apologies for the length.] The problem: when packages have files owned by a user or group that are part of the package contents ("owned files" f

Re: A few notes upgrading F41 to F42

Hi, On 15-Apr-25 2:30 AM, Ian Laurie via devel wrote: > On 14/4/25 21:14, Fabio Valentini wrote: >> As I understand it, the migration will happen automatically as soon as >> it is possible, so you *can't* do it earlier manually. > > My wrinkle is a bit different. > > My /usr/local/sbin is a link

Re: Switch gnome-software to use a dnf5 plugin in rawhide

On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 5:28 AM Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi, > > On 14-Apr-25 5:49 PM, Milan Crha wrote: > > On Mon, 2025-04-14 at 16:30 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> Does it mean we will finally have common history for DNF5 and G-S? > > > > Hi, > > yes, it means both the history and the ca

Re: Switch gnome-software to use a dnf5 plugin in rawhide

Hi, On 14-Apr-25 5:49 PM, Milan Crha wrote: > On Mon, 2025-04-14 at 16:30 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Does it mean we will finally have common history for DNF5 and G-S? > > Hi, > yes, it means both the history and the cache will be common between the > two. No more disk space wasting. So