On 27-01-2014 12:34 অপৰাহ্ন, Parag N(पराग़) wrote:
Hi Nilamdyuti,
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Nilamdyuti Goswami
mailto:ngosw...@redhat.com>> wrote:
Hi all,
While translating some of the fedora packages we often come across
some source strings whose context or meaning is no
Hi Nilamdyuti,
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Nilamdyuti Goswami wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> While translating some of the fedora packages we often come across some
> source strings whose context or meaning is not clear. This results in wrong
> translations which is discovered later while using the a
On 01/27/2014 05:08 AM, Christopher Meng wrote:
Hi,
Here is an interesting package icecat[1], which is a "more free"
version firefox.
Do we allow this in Fedora now?
My view: "It's a package like any arbitrary other". So, if it complies
to the rules applied elsewhere, I don't see much reaso
Hi
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Christopher Meng wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Here is an interesting package icecat[1], which is a "more free"
> version firefox.
>
> Do we allow this in Fedora now?
>
> Thanks.
>
> [1]--https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048493
> --
>
I would say we do bu
> 've tried, i prefer firefox...
Actually firefox is easy to use and quick in developing.
But please read [1].
icecat solves it, and that is why I want to use icecat in Fedora.
[1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html
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On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 08:38:25PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> JONESFORTH, a public domain FORTH I wrote, is written in x86 assembler
> and prefers to put its threaded interpreter at address 0.
Can you change its preference? Permitting the mapping of executable code
at address 0 makes it
Il 27/01/2014 05:08, Christopher Meng ha scritto:
Hi,
Here is an interesting package icecat[1], which is a "more free"
version firefox.
Do we allow this in Fedora now?
Thanks.
[1]--https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048493
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Noob here.
http:
Hi,
Here is an interesting package icecat[1], which is a "more free"
version firefox.
Do we allow this in Fedora now?
Thanks.
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Am 27.01.2014 02:11, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>> i only just warned about cases where a rollback would do harm and to *make
>> sure* that really no one would
>> do it without take care
>
> That was my *entire* point going back around 36 hours ago
and that is why i do not understand your turn around
On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 27.01.2014 01:32, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> Am 27.01.2014 01:18, schrieb Chris Murphy:
You gave several examples of rollback-snapshot methods - same thing as you
suggeste
Am 27.01.2014 01:32, schrieb Chris Murphy:
> On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> Am 27.01.2014 01:18, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>>> You gave several examples of rollback-snapshot methods - same thing as you
>>> suggested them. I never said you requested them
>>
>> oh my god - i gav
On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 27.01.2014 01:18, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> Am 27.01.2014 00:51, schrieb Chris Murphy:
On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> do yourself and everybody
On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 27.01.2014 01:07, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>
>> And then you propose a ridonkulous snapshot-rollback strategy that would for
>> certain cause major problems
>> if the rollback were actually done
>
> *the opposite is true because i WAR
Am 27.01.2014 01:18, schrieb Chris Murphy:
> On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> Am 27.01.2014 00:51, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>>
do yourself and everybody a favour and
* don't claim others are rude while you ta
On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 27.01.2014 00:51, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>> do yourself and everybody a favour and
>>>
>>> * don't claim others are rude while you talk like above and worser half of
>>> the t
I'm looking for something and not quite sure what it's called.
In thinking about what the music SIG can do to add value I've hit on
wondering whether it's possible to write desktop-based guided
tutorials without having to interfere in the application in question
itself (otherwise you have to persua
Am 27.01.2014 00:57, schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
> I don't think this subthread is being particularly useful...
>
> And the personal attacks are undesirable.
> Please stop or at least take it to private email
*sorry* for not early enough realize trolling in first start with
the same argumentation as
Am 27.01.2014 01:07, schrieb Chris Murphy:
> And then you propose a ridonkulous snapshot-rollback strategy that would for
> certain cause major problems
> if the rollback were actually done
*the opposite is true because i WARNED of doing snapshots*
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On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 27.01.2014 00:41, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>> Great, well I'll tell you what. I will just keep living dangerously, and
>> when I find a real world case of this, I'll file a bug. How about that?
>
> do that, your problem
>
>>> because nobo
I don't think this subthread is being particularly useful...
And the personal attacks are undesirable.
Please stop or at least take it to private email.
Thanks,
kevin
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Am 27.01.2014 00:51, schrieb Chris Murphy:
> On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>> do yourself and everybody a favour and
>>
>> * don't claim others are rude while you talk like above and worser half of
>> the thread
>> * don't talk about things above your technical scope
>> *
On Jan 26, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> do yourself and everybody a favour and
>
> * don't claim others are rude while you talk like above and worser half of
> the thread
> * don't talk about things above your technical scope
> * discuss with software engineers while lacking basic
Am 27.01.2014 00:41, schrieb Chris Murphy:
> Great, well I'll tell you what. I will just keep living dangerously, and when
> I find a real world case of this, I'll file a bug. How about that?
do that, your problem
>> because nobody *can* know what exactly packages, versions are installed
>> in
On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 26.01.2014 21:30, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> Am 26.01.2014 20:45, schrieb Chris Murphy:
> So ?
> It is only visible if you downgrade which a lot of software do not
> sup
Am 27.01.2014 00:26, schrieb Chris Murphy:
> On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> Am 26.01.2014 21:13, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Simo Sorce wrote:
>>>
I never said it won't work in absolute, it probably will work ok in many
cases, just to
On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 26.01.2014 21:13, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Simo Sorce wrote:
>>
>>> I never said it won't work in absolute, it probably will work ok in many
>>> cases, just to cause incredible issues in others.
>>>
>>>
Am 26.01.2014 21:56, schrieb Chris Murphy:
> No you just have reading comprehension problem. The minor versions are
> compatible. The major versions aren't
one last question: what are firefox updates 25->26->27
minor, major, dunno?
more and more software has no minor/major splitting at all
sys
Am 26.01.2014 21:56, schrieb Chris Murphy:
> On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> Well, the mail servers regularly get updated by the company I pay for such
>>> things, and I've
>>> never noticed the change. It uses IMAP so I don't think the server even
>>> cares, its just a
On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 26.01.2014 20:56, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>>> What about mail application change the format of the mail folders ?
>>
>> Good question because I experienced this recently. So the way Apple does
>> this on OS X with Mail,
>> there is no such
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Slightly OT, but is SELinux stopping programs from executing code at
> address zero? (And how can I stop it doing that?)
>
> JONESFORTH, a public domain FORTH I wrote, is written in x86 assembler
> and prefers to put its threaded interp
On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 12:45 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> I still really have no idea what sorts of changes you're talking
> about.
I think you made it abundantly clear :-)
I am also sure what I wanted to convey to people that understand what I
am talking about is also clear. So I think the matter
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Slightly OT, but is SELinux stopping programs from executing code at
> address zero? (And how can I stop it doing that?)
>
> JONESFORTH, a public domain FORTH I wrote, is written in x86 assembler
> and prefers to put its threaded inter
Am 26.01.2014 21:30, schrieb Chris Murphy:
> On Jan 26, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> Am 26.01.2014 20:45, schrieb Chris Murphy:
So ?
It is only visible if you downgrade which a lot of software do not
support and explicitly so
>>>
>>> The right way to do file format c
Slightly OT, but is SELinux stopping programs from executing code at
address zero? (And how can I stop it doing that?)
JONESFORTH, a public domain FORTH I wrote, is written in x86 assembler
and prefers to put its threaded interpreter at address 0. This worked
fine before, but has now stopped wor
On Jan 26, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 26.01.2014 20:45, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>>> So ?
>>> It is only visible if you downgrade which a lot of software do not
>>> support and explicitly so
>>
>> The right way to do file format changes is you design the new format.
>> And in
On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 13:13 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Simo Sorce wrote:
>
> > I never said it won't work in absolute, it probably will work ok in many
> > cases, just to cause incredible issues in others.
> >
> > It is a fine tool in the hands of an expert that k
Am 26.01.2014 21:13, schrieb Chris Murphy:
> On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Simo Sorce wrote:
>
>> I never said it won't work in absolute, it probably will work ok in many
>> cases, just to cause incredible issues in others.
>>
>> It is a fine tool in the hands of an expert that knows how to che
On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Simo Sorce wrote:
> I never said it won't work in absolute, it probably will work ok in many
> cases, just to cause incredible issues in others.
>
> It is a fine tool in the hands of an expert that knows how to check
> whether reverting to a snapshot is safe.
Why
Am 26.01.2014 20:56, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>> What about mail application change the format of the mail folders ?
>
> Good question because I experienced this recently. So the way Apple does this
> on OS X with Mail,
> there is no such thing as a mail format change during the life of a major OS
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Am 26.01.2014 20:51, schrieb Reindl Harald:
> Am 26.01.2014 20:45, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>>> So ?
>>> It is only visible if you downgrade which a lot of software do not
>>> support and explicitly so
>>
>> The right way to do file format changes is you design the new format.
>> And in a minor vers
On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 17:54 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>> * Do an offline update that includes Foo v2.0
>>> * Boot the updated system, run Foo, it migrates its configuration to
>>> som
On 01/25/2014 12:15 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> OK, so is the fact it's persistently available the problem? Because
> if I were to have a persistent backup of sysroot mounted, I've got
> the same attack vector available. By default for even an unprivileged
> user gnome-shell mounts with By default, g
Am 26.01.2014 20:45, schrieb Chris Murphy:
>> So ?
>> It is only visible if you downgrade which a lot of software do not
>> support and explicitly so
>
> The right way to do file format changes is you design the new format.
> And in a minor version update, the application gains the ability to
>
On Jan 26, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 17:28 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
>>
>>> The reason is simple: lot's of software *changes* data as part of its
>>> normal functioning, including and often in rollback-incom
Hi,
The licensing guidelines say that license changes should be announced on
this list. In version 4.0 libreoffice-voikko changed from GPLv3+ to dual
licensing, GPLv3+ or MPLv2.0.
Libreoffice-voikko 4.0 requires libvoikko 3.7 which I built today, so it
should be in tomorrow Rawhide compose.
On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 15:04 -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
> Hi Simo,
>
> On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 14:55 -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
>
> > The reason is simple: lot's of software *changes* data as part of its
> > normal functioning, including and often in rollback-incompatible ways.
>
> I wrote and maint
On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 17:54 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Jan 25, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >
> > * Do an offline update that includes Foo v2.0
> > * Boot the updated system, run Foo, it migrates its configuration to
> > some new scheme
> > * Realize there was something wrong w
On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 17:28 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Jan 25, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
>
> > The reason is simple: lot's of software *changes* data as part of its
> > normal functioning, including and often in rollback-incompatible ways.
> >
> > You cannot assume that upgrading
Le dimanche 26 janvier 2014 à 18:14 +0100, Heiko Adams a écrit :
> Am Sonntag, den 26.01.2014, 12:01 -0500 schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
> > Hi
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:57 AM, drago01 wrote:
> >
> > No this isn't an issue at all. No one is saying that non gui
> >
Am Sonntag, den 26.01.2014, 12:01 -0500 schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
> Hi
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:57 AM, drago01 wrote:
>
> No this isn't an issue at all. No one is saying that non gui
> apps are
> useless or should be removed.
> The point is that gui
Am 26.01.2014 18:01, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
> On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:57 AM, drago01 wrote:
>
> No this isn't an issue at all. No one is saying that non gui apps are
> useless or should be removed.
> The point is that gui installer installs gui apps. If you want to
> install a
Hi
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:57 AM, drago01 wrote:
>
> No this isn't an issue at all. No one is saying that non gui apps are
> useless or should be removed.
> The point is that gui installer installs gui apps. If you want to
> install a command line tool whats wrong with
> using the command lin
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Les Howell wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 12:14 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
>> On 01/26/2014 11:08 AM, drago01 wrote:
>> > gcc isn't an application in a sense of "gui application" so there is
>> > to ways to install it
>> > either the user installs an IDE whic
On Sun, 2014-01-26 at 12:14 +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> On 01/26/2014 11:08 AM, drago01 wrote:
> > gcc isn't an application in a sense of "gui application" so there is
> > to ways to install it
> > either the user installs an IDE which pulls it in as dep or he/she
> > installs it using yum/d
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 22:36:02 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Note there's a GUI tool similar to easy karma called gooey karma, waiting for
> a package sponsor.
>
We don't sponsor packages but packagers. ;)
Actually, the review request has stalled, waiting for the reviewer (here
also the sponsor
* Lars E. Pettersson [26/01/2014 12:26] :
>
> Why is it not installed by default?
The last time I used it, it had a number of bugs that made it
unusable (bugs #883435 and bugs #949907 are the first that come to mind).
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Reindl Harald wrote:
> i am not entirely sure how that is meant
>
> * disable the automatism to push to stable
> * forget the whole karma system at all
>
> in case of "disable the automatism to push to stable" i agree
Even just doing that would be an improvement, but I still think the whole
karm
Dominick Grift wrote:
> I did not mean to suggest that. I meant to suggest that SELinux would be
> able to contain the damage, referring to "fatal" in: "Drawing lessons
> from fatal SELinux bug"
And by what magic would it do that? SELinux cannot by its nature contain any
damage of the "the system
On 1/26/14, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
> I feel obligated to comment on this. JPackage and Fedora have taken
> different routes years ago and installing JPackage rpm on top of Fedora will
> likely break Fedora packages due to:
> * additional OSGi metadata Fedora ships but JPackage doesn't
> * dif
Chris Murphy wrote:
> I wouldn't ever expect this with a minor version or security update. I'd
> consider it a complete betrayal of software versioning to do this. In fact
> in certain instances of major version changes, downward compatibility of
> the file format is expected.
The compatibility is
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> On 01/26/2014 11:08 AM, drago01 wrote:
>>
>> gcc isn't an application in a sense of "gui application" so there is
>> to ways to install it
>> either the user installs an IDE which pulls it in as dep or he/she
>> installs it using yum/dn
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 05:40:22PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 01:33:07AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > David Sommerseth wrote:
> > > So, I wonder if it can be considered to enable a "downgrade path" for
> > > bluez and depending packages, as described in the "Contingency
Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>On 25.01.2014 17:35, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 11:20 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>>
>>> Debian, who has a similar stance on
>>> non-free Software, does a way better job in that area than Fedora
>does.
>> Well, not really - they don't have a 's
On 01/26/2014 12:18 PM, Heiko Adams wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 26.01.2014, 12:14 +0100 schrieb Lars E. Pettersson:
...
Would it not be better to have a 'software center' that includes ALL
software available, be they GUI related or not? Probably based on
rpm-packages, as that is what our system ulti
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> On 1/25/14, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 12:04 +0100, Alec Le
Am Sonntag, den 26.01.2014, 12:14 +0100 schrieb Lars E. Pettersson:
> On 01/26/2014 11:08 AM, drago01 wrote:
> > gcc isn't an application in a sense of "gui application" so there is
> > to ways to install it
> > either the user installs an IDE which pulls it in as dep or he/she
> > installs it usin
On 01/26/2014 11:08 AM, drago01 wrote:
gcc isn't an application in a sense of "gui application" so there is
to ways to install it
either the user installs an IDE which pulls it in as dep or he/she
installs it using yum/dnf.
Would it not be better to have a 'software center' that includes ALL
s
On 01/24/2014 03:41 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 21:35 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
David Sommerseth wrote:
So, I wonder if it can be considered to enable a "downgrade path" for
bluez and depending packages, as described i
On 01/26/2014 09:09 AM, Kenjiro Nakayama wrote:
> Hi, List
>
> Can anyone swap review or take it as sponsor?
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1008063
>
Kenjiro,
in order to get a package approved, you must be the reporter of a review
request. When looking for a sponsor, it
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
> On 01/23/2014 02:04 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
>>
>> On 23 January 2014 12:37, David Howells wrote:
>>>
>>> What constitutes an 'application' in this sense? Does 'gcc' count for
>>> instance? How about 'find'?
>>
>>
>> No. In the AppS
On 01/23/2014 02:04 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 23 January 2014 12:37, David Howells wrote:
What constitutes an 'application' in this sense? Does 'gcc' count for
instance? How about 'find'?
No. In the AppStream and AppData definitions, a program is an
application if "it has a .desktop file
On 1/25/14, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-01-25 at 12:04 +0100, Alec Leamas wrote:
>
>
>> After hacking a simple tool which provides a GUI for a repository file
>> it's possible to create repository packages complete with desktop and
>> appdata file. I have some 5-10 such repository packa
Hi, List
Can anyone swap review or take it as sponsor?
[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1008063
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On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 04:32:54PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> Do we really need a service for this? Can't this be done instead via a
> tmpfiles snippet that uses "f" and the extra argument at the end?
>
> I mean I am not convinced it's worth involving shell here. Also the
> canonical way
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