Am 26.01.2014 21:56, schrieb Chris Murphy: > On Jan 26, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Reindl Harald <h.rei...@thelounge.net> wrote: >>> Well, the mail servers regularly get updated by the company I pay for such >>> things, and I've >>> never noticed the change. It uses IMAP so I don't think the server even >>> cares, its just a bunch >>> of folders and files >> >> blabla - nobody talks about the mailserver > > Jerk. Simo said, in the line right above this that you cut: "There are many > other examples like this especially on the server side."
be careful in which context you somebody calls a Jerk >> the topic is *internal* data of *local* software >> you may have luck and nothing happens > > This was not at all made clear from the start, it was assumed by people who > understood because that people thought somebody with that much replies to the thread would have understodd the topic > I explicitly asked if I was on the same page or not. Instead of bringing me > up to speed, > you decide to be condescending. Congratulations on your rudeness as you can see some lines above you needed *exactly* that way of comminucation to understand what we are talking about in this thread - this is the *dvel* list and so technical understanding is implicit in a discussion >> with bad luck you even won't realize that there are new mails you never face >> because of happy upgrade/downgrade internal caches are accessed with >> *undefined bahvior* > > Email are user documents the same as a Libreoffice document. You do not get > to say that just > because it's a semi-hidden database, that its file format is allowed to > change in a downward > incompatible manner what exactly did you not understand in the two words "internal caches" frankly i faced mail clients where you needed to remove the complete IMAP account to stop not display any new or moved message in specific folders >> any software on that planet will recognize upgrades and convert *internal* >> data >> but nobody will give you a warranty how the same software behaves after a >> downgrade > > Well insofar as the whole software EULA paradigm basically says for any > reason, willful > or not, they can blow up your data in any direction possible and there is no > liability > claim whatsoever… what you're saying doesn't even apply to upgrades. google for "undefined behavior" >> yes, in most cases nothing bad happens >> in rare cases you recognize the problem and find a solution >> in some cases you even don't recognize that internal things are slightly >> going wrong > > It's no worse a risk than a conventional reversion with a clean install well, i never re-installed any linux system in my life for good reasons the same reasons i never would restore a snapshot of my whole filesystem or even more worse *a complete tree* alone of it > So I fail to see how any of this relates to snapshots that you fail to see the possible impact of a snapshot-restore is obviously and you do not need to repeat that again and again
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