Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matt McCutchen wrote: > That's not strictly true: you're welcome to write svn-git. But the > point is taken, and that's why I invited clarification as to the reasons > for choosing git. Bolting a distributed client onto a central server makes sense. A central client with a distributed server doe

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Peter Hutterer wrote: > I think this may be the main issue here - there is no meaning of "newer" > in git. There is a partial order given by ancestry, and 2 revisions you want to compare WILL in general be ordered. (In fact, whenever it makes sense to numerically compare SVN revision IDs, the co

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 08:16 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Matt McCutchen wrote: > > The only potentially confusing behavior was that git defaulted to > > pushing all branches. Given that, the push failed due to a concurrent > > change to a different branch on the destination, and it was necessary t

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Nevertheless, if you really want to try this method, use > > http://repos.fedorapeople.org, > > No thanks. repos.fedorapeople.org is a very sorry excuse for a PPA > infrastructure, it's basically only storage with a

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 08:10 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > I'm not talking about intentional collisions, I'm talking about accidental > collisions, which ALL hash algorithms are vulnerable to, no matter how > strong. Hashes are inherently non-injective and mathematically CANNOT be > otherwise. Now

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Nevertheless, if you really want to try this method, use > http://repos.fedorapeople.org, No thanks. repos.fedorapeople.org is a very sorry excuse for a PPA infrastructure, it's basically only storage with a list of repos, you have to manage everything by hand, there's n

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 08:16:23AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Matt McCutchen wrote: > > The only potentially confusing behavior was that git defaulted to > > pushing all branches. Given that, the push failed due to a concurrent > > change to a different branch on the destination, and it was nece

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 08:10:06AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > For sequential commit numbering, try "git describe". > > Nobody actually uses those numbers though statements with "nobody" or "everybody" can be easily disproven so you might want to reword or narrow down your definition of "nobo

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matt McCutchen wrote: > The only potentially confusing behavior was that git defaulted to > pushing all branches. Given that, the push failed due to a concurrent > change to a different branch on the destination, and it was necessary to > switch to that branch in order to perform the merge (well,

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matt McCutchen wrote: > "Broken" in the past tense is inaccurate: no SHA-1 collision has been > published yet. I would like to see DVCSes switch to a stronger hash > algorithm sooner rather than later, but it's not enough of a concern > that I would avoid using them. If it makes you feel any bett

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 05:40 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Neal Becker wrote: > > OK, got mercurial updated for devel, apparantly OK. Now try to update > > f13: > [snip a bunch of git tribulations] > > It's quite telling that the git workflow is so arcane and exotic that even > the maintainer of

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 06:41 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Git is just a PITA in its own league, but DVCSes as a whole are a > [...] unhelpful (inherently hard to use) concept. I can't reproduce either issue. :D > broken (*) > (*) e.g. because of the strong reliance on hashes, which can make the

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 03:06:07AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jesse Keating wrote: > > Here is where you should have done a fedpkg or git push > [snip] > > There is nothing to commit, since all the changes are already committed. > > The joys of DVCSes. People are NOT used to commit and push bein

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Dave Airlie
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 06:41 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Matt McCutchen wrote: > > Are you comparing git to Mercurial or to a centralized VCS? > > Both. Git is just a PITA in its own league, but DVCSes as a whole are a > broken (*) and unhelpful (inherently hard to use) concept. > > (*) e.g. bec

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/03/2010 10:15 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Since there is no new upstream release, you will have to triage bugs, >> cherry pick patches and push them as updates. What else do you mean by >> tracking upstream closely? > If there's no new release, I'd just ship a snapsho

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Since there is no new upstream release, you will have to triage bugs, > cherry pick patches and push them as updates. What else do you mean by > tracking upstream closely? If there's no new release, I'd just ship a snapshot. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list de

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/03/2010 10:04 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> I believe a co-maintainer if he/she wants to collaborate wouldn't >> constrained by differences in approaches and can participate and help >> out regardless of that. If you review bug reports, I suspect you will >> find ways t

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matt McCutchen wrote: > Are you comparing git to Mercurial or to a centralized VCS? Both. Git is just a PITA in its own league, but DVCSes as a whole are a broken (*) and unhelpful (inherently hard to use) concept. (*) e.g. because of the strong reliance on hashes, which can make the whole thin

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > I believe a co-maintainer if he/she wants to collaborate wouldn't > constrained by differences in approaches and can participate and help > out regardless of that. If you review bug reports, I suspect you will > find ways to help. It just requires letting go of the notion

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 03:06 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jesse Keating wrote: > > Here is where you should have done a fedpkg or git push > [snip] > > There is nothing to commit, since all the changes are already committed. > > The joys of DVCSes. People are NOT used to commit and push being diffe

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/03/2010 09:20 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> IMO, if you want to be a co-maintainer, you will have to coordinate >> and work with the model preferred by the primary maintainer. Otherwise >> disputes will make the process worse and not better. > This (or rather, the di

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > IMO, if you want to be a co-maintainer, you will have to coordinate > and work with the model preferred by the primary maintainer. Otherwise > disputes will make the process worse and not better. This (or rather, the differences in update conception) is exactly why I h

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Neal Becker wrote: > OK, got mercurial updated for devel, apparantly OK. Now try to update > f13: [snip a bunch of git tribulations] It's quite telling that the git workflow is so arcane and exotic that even the maintainer of another DVCS cannot figure it out! Git just has to do everything in i

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/03/2010 09:06 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > PS: And since PulseAudio is a shared technology also used by other desktops > than just GNOME, I'd be willing to pick up comaintainership, but then it'd > very likely be maintained in KDE SIG style, aggressively tracking upstream > development. IMO

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthias Clasen wrote: > I was on vacation for two weeks, but I'm back now. So our manpower > should be even again :-) LOL, it's true that you do a lot of work all by yourself. ;-) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
I wrote: > s/desktop/GNOME/ > > KDE packages are tracking upstream closely and are regularly updated, > including upstream bugfixes. Plus, we backport or sometimes even develop > bugfixes of our own. > > To me, this shows that a model where upstream versions are tracked by > updates is much more

Re: Wordpress testers needed!

2010-08-02 Thread Chen Lei
2010/8/3 Jon Ciesla : >> Also I think that with >> wordpress 3 the separate wordpress-mu release fork has been merged >> into mainline. So wouldn't it be better to concentrate on wordpress 3? >> > > > Well, yes, probably.  That might even help with the bundled library > situation.  But that's an is

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 03:23 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > It also shows that KDE SIG actually has more and/or more efficient packaging > (as opposed to upstream development) manpower than the GNOME folks, unlike > what has been frequently claimed. I was on vacation for two weeks, but I'm back

Re: Wordpress testers needed!

2010-08-02 Thread Jon Ciesla
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >>  In an effort to try to reduce and eliminate Wordpress's reliance on >> bundled PHP libraries, I've produced some test builds.  If someone >> familiar with administering Wordpress and Wordpress-mu could test to >> make sure the changes don'

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: > While Lennart has moved onto bigger and better things, which isn't a > bad thing, it seems that the maintainership of PA in Fedora hasn't > moved on to other maintianers or at least if Lennart is interested in > maintaining it he hasn't aquired someone to assist in co-

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 02.08.10 23:50, pbrobin...@gmail.com (pbrobin...@gmail.com) wrote: > > So, I guess what I want to say is: I will return full-time to PA not so > > far away. And I have a queue of patches in my checkout (including volume > > ramping and plug-in effects and similar). Also note that I'll run

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jesse Keating wrote: > Here is where you should have done a fedpkg or git push [snip] > There is nothing to commit, since all the changes are already committed. The joys of DVCSes. People are NOT used to commit and push being different operations. Git is highly confusing to people who aren't git

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- "Stephen John Smoogen" wrote: > > No you aren't just saying. You are looking to provoke a fight. You > don't like Pulse Audio, fine. You want to bring it up over and over, > less fine. You want to then duck and dodge any criticism of your > actions as "being told to not insult the mother s

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 4:00 PM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > Reminds me of a quote in a book I know. > > He is like the farmer who came up out of his cyclone cellar to find > his home ruined. To his wife, he remarked, "Don't see anything the > matter here, Ma. Ain

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 4:31 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > OK, got mercurial updated for devel, apparantly OK. Now try to update f13: > > fedpkg switch-branch f13 > Branch f13 set up to track remote branch f13/master from origin. > > [nbec...@nbecker1 mercurial]$ git

Re: Fedora 14 Alpha RC Compose is At Risk

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:05:25 -0700 John Poelstra wrote: > Tomorrow is the Alpha Deadline > > Chances of composing the release candidate for the Fedora 14 Alpha on > Thursday are not looking good, but a little time remains. Release > Engineering cannot spin a Fedora 14 Release Candidate until

git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Neal Becker
OK, got mercurial updated for devel, apparantly OK. Now try to update f13: fedpkg switch-branch f13 Branch f13 set up to track remote branch f13/master from origin. [nbec...@nbecker1 mercurial]$ git merge master Updating f6a7cf0..33f33a6 Fast-forward .gitignore |2 ++ mercurial.spec |

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- "Lennart Poettering" wrote: > > Well, my reading of the situation is different. Neither will I be > away > for too long, nor is the amount of bugs actually that bad. If you > look > closely a non-trivial number have needinfo set, waiting for the > posters > to report back. Substantial amou

Re: Poorly maintained gpsbabel

2010-08-02 Thread Tony Breeds
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 01:11:54AM +0200, Volker Fröhlich wrote: > Maybe somebody can either help me to solve the problem or can take over the > package. If gpsbabel is orphaned or if Silfreed is looking for a co-maintainer I'd be happy to help. I use gpsbabel regualrly. Yours Tony -- devel

Re: Fedora 14 has been branched!

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 3:05 PM, John Poelstra wrote: > Okay. I was going off an earlier conversation that I'd understood to be > "we have no more 'freezes,' period, in Fedora." I'm open to naming this page something differently, since it's not a complete freeze.

Poorly maintained gpsbabel

2010-08-02 Thread Volker Fröhlich
Hello everbody! I maintain the QGIS package. QGIS depends on gpsbabel, which is owned by Silfreed, who is also the former owner of QGIS. I guess, he is not interested in maintaining this package any more as well. I noticed, gpsbabel wasn't built for F14 or Rawhide. Version 1.3.6 is also outdat

Fedora 14 Alpha RC Compose is At Risk

2010-08-02 Thread John Poelstra
Tomorrow is the Alpha Deadline Chances of composing the release candidate for the Fedora 14 Alpha on Thursday are not looking good, but a little time remains. Release Engineering cannot spin a Fedora 14 Release Candidate until this Fedora 14 Alpha Blocker is clear. If you have any additional

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 02.08.10 16:15, Jean-Francois Saucier (jfsauc...@infoglobe.ca) wrote: > I am a little off this subject personally but would like to express my > thought on that. > > Knowing that you won't put the time PA need and that you will focus on > another project for a relatively long period of ti

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 22:10:13 +0100 "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 01:58:56PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo > > meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on > > irc.freenode.net. > > I'm s

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 02.08.10 23:09, pbrobin...@gmail.com (pbrobin...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> >> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: >> > On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> - "Carl G." wrote: >> >> >

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 02.08.10 16:01, Carl G. (carl.gaudrea...@gmail.com) wrote: > Sure, i'm willing to _try_ to help if we > can get Lennart to participate and/or pulseaudio experts to assist > us. > > Pulseaudio is currently marked as "Only for PA experts" here > : > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 02.08.10 23:09, pbrobin...@gmail.com (pbrobin...@gmail.com) wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > > >> > >> - "Carl G." wrote: > >> > Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so > >> > you can get "real work"

Re: acl problem?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:17:01 -0400 Neal Becker wrote: > Repository : :ext:nbec...@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/pkgs > Module : rpms/mercurial/devel > Working dir: ~/fedora/mercurial/devel/ > > > > In directory .: > Message: cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first! > Message: Ac

Re: acl problem?

2010-08-02 Thread John5342
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 23:17, Neal Becker wrote: > Repository : :ext:nbec...@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/pkgs > Module     : rpms/mercurial/devel > Working dir: ~/fedora/mercurial/devel/ > > > > In directory .: > Message: cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first! > Message: Access deni

acl problem?

2010-08-02 Thread Neal Becker
Repository : :ext:nbec...@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/pkgs Module : rpms/mercurial/devel Working dir: ~/fedora/mercurial/devel/ In directory .: Message: cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first! Message: Access denied: nbecker is not in ACL for rpms/mercurial/devel Message: cvs c

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.p...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me >> to this conclusion? Well look at this: >> * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSIGNED bugs

Announcing FUDCon Tempe 2011 -- Jan. 29-31, 2011

2010-08-02 Thread Jared K. Smith
In the past, the planning and execution of FUDCon events was handled completely by a few Red Hat employees. This seemed out of alignment with the principles of Fedora, so in late January of this year, we kicked off an effort to fix that issue. We wanted to increase the effectiveness and transpare

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > >> >> - "Carl G." wrote: >> > Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so >> > you can get "real work" done. /s >> > >> > Let me know if you need some help to >> > make the stats looks pretty. >>

Re: Fedora 14 has been branched!

2010-08-02 Thread John Poelstra
Jesse Keating said the following on 07/30/2010 10:00 AM Pacific Time: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/30/2010 06:00 AM, John Poelstra wrote: >> Jesse Keating said the following on 07/29/2010 09:03 PM Pacific Time: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>>

Re: Can anyone contact Balint Christian (rezso)?

2010-08-02 Thread Sven Lankes
On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 12:27:53PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > openlayers I have taken openlayers. -- sven === jabber/xmpp: s...@lankes.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: >> People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora users. > > > Language such as this is not being excellent to each other.  

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:01:02 -0400, Carl wrote: > Perhaps we could organize a bug zapping day for the pulseaudio bugs? > Sure, i'm willing to _try_ to help if we > can get Lennart to participate and/or pulseaudio experts to assist > us. > > Pulseaudio is currently marked as "Only for PA experts"

Asterisk 1.8 in Rawhide (F-15)

2010-08-02 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
I've just built Asterisk 1.8.0 Beta 2 for Rawhide (F-15).  The packages are completely untested at this point so I make no guarantees at this point about it's usability.  I'll be doing some testing on my own but I'd appreciate any testing that anyone else can do. Since we have already passed F-14'

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

2010-08-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 01:58:56PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo > meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on > irc.freenode.net. I'm sorry I cannot be at this meeting, but could fixing this bug be discussed: h

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

2010-08-02 Thread Jochen Schmitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 02.08.2010 22:54, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: > > I'll get it sent right after this. Thanks for noticing... I am > glad folks are reading them and find them helpfull. > Thank you for your response. I think not all people have the time to following a meeti

Summary/Minutes from FESCo meeting (2010-07-27)

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-07-27) === Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-07-27/fesco.2010-07-27-19.30.log.html .. Meeting summary ---

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 22:40:59 +0200 Jochen Schmitt wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am 02.08.2010 21:58, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: > > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo > > meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

2010-08-02 Thread Jochen Schmitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 02.08.2010 21:58, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo > meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on > irc.freenode.net. > Unfortunately, I could not found the summaries of t

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 1:26 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Your rebuild is in updates-testing. Does the F-14 Branched Report > cover updates-testing? (During the F-13 dev cycle, it did not, and I created > a separate broken deps report for F-13 Branched + updates-

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 08/02/2010 02:26 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:17:43 -0600, Nathanael wrote: > >> On 08/02/2010 09:32 AM, Branched Report wrote: >>> Compose started at Mon Aug 2 13:15:11 UTC 2010 >>> >>> Broken deps for x86_64 >>> -

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:17:43 -0600, Nathanael wrote: > On 08/02/2010 09:32 AM, Branched Report wrote: > > Compose started at Mon Aug 2 13:15:11 UTC 2010 > > > > Broken deps for x86_64 > > -- > > barry-0.17-0.1.20100329git.fc14.x86_64 req

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 08/02/2010 09:32 AM, Branched Report wrote: > Compose started at Mon Aug 2 13:15:11 UTC 2010 > > Broken deps for x86_64 > -- > barry-0.17-0.1.20100329git.fc14.x86_64 requires > libboost_serialization.so.1.41.0()(64bit) Barry is my

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jean-Francois Saucier
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 18:50 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.p...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me > > to this conclusion? Well look at this: > > * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSI

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Carl G.
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:20:40 -0400 > "Carl G." wrote: > >> Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so >> you can get "real work" done. /s >> >> Let me know if you need some help to >> make the stats looks pretty. > > Thanks Carl. > > Perhaps we could organize a bug zapping da

Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. = Followups = #topic #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351 #topic #382 Imp

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2010 12:50 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > >> >> - "Carl G." wrote: >>> Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so >>> you can get "real work" done. /s >>> >>> Let me know if you need some help to >

Re: RCS keywords rewritten in dist-git conversion?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2010 11:55 AM, Adam Goode wrote: > Didn't want this to get lost, thanks for fixing this on IRC, but I don't > have an f14 branch now. Got that fixed for ya. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jke

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > - "Carl G." wrote: > > Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so > > you can get "real work" done. /s > > > > Let me know if you need some help to > > make the stats looks pretty. > > Thank You Carl, this will help the community a lot and is a p

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:20:40 -0400 "Carl G." wrote: > Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so > you can get "real work" done. /s > > Let me know if you need some help to > make the stats looks pretty. Thanks Carl. Perhaps we could organize a bug zapping day for the pulseaudio bugs? Try and f

Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks

2010-08-02 Thread John Poelstra
Start End Name Wed 26-May Tue 03-Aug Packaging and Development (precedes Alpha) Tue 03-Aug Tue 03-Aug Alpha Change Deadline Tue 03-Aug Tue 03-Aug Software String Freeze Thu 05-Aug Thu 05-Aug Compose Alpha Candidate Fri 06-Aug Fri 06-Aug Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #4 We

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Erm, what complaint? That it's dead? I've never heard that one before. > Mostly, people seem to complain when it gets changed, not when it > doesn't. The gods of irony are pleased indeed. However, this maybe a case where it would be good

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/02/2010 11:59 PM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > Yes, never criticise the mothership or it's employees. I forgot that rule, I > am so sorry. I will drop it now... > > Yes, I needed to toss in this last barb. I have a right to express my > opinions for now, even if they are unpopular with a

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- "Jesse Keating" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/2/10 10:07 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > Would "Fix your existing broken crap before taking up something > new." be less antagonistic? > > No, it wouldn't, and you know that. Now you're just intention

Re: RCS keywords rewritten in dist-git conversion?

2010-08-02 Thread Adam Goode
On 08/02/2010 01:19 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 8/2/10 7:59 AM, Adam Goode wrote: >> Does this warrant re-converting the package? Or I can fix up the patches >> myself. > > I suspect parsecvs got confused by the contents of the file having RCS > keywords. I could try re-converting it using git

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On 02/08/10 19:20, Carl G. wrote: > Let me know if you need some help to > make the stats looks pretty. :( I just made popcorn. All ppl can get {insert emotion here} and never, ever get close to a pregnant Stag. :D -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing lis

Re: Firefox 4 for Fedora 14?

2010-08-02 Thread Tom "spot" Callaway
On 08/01/2010 12:55 PM, Julian Sikorski wrote: > W dniu 30.07.2010 17:28, Tom "spot" Callaway pisze: >> On 07/30/2010 11:10 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> On 07/30/2010 03:16 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: So I just created: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/ Anyone want to help me te

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- "Carl G." wrote: > Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so > you can get "real work" done. /s > > Let me know if you need some help to > make the stats looks pretty. Thank You Carl, this will help the community a lot and is a perfect example of why public emails work. -- Bob ---

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Carl G.
Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.p...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead >> me to this conclusion? Well look at this: >> * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSIGNED bugs right now [1] >> * there was

Re: The move to git!

2010-08-02 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > Everybody was bitching about CVS for years, I'm pretty sure I wasn't. But I'll still pile on with a +1 for the switch over to git -jef"getting git to compile on qnx is no fun"spaleta -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https:

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 16:52 +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > The fact that the question was asked suggests to me that perhaps one > should rethink what and how they are doing things. People have had > this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora users. Erm, what complaint? That it's dea

Re: The move to git!

2010-08-02 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 08/02/2010 07:02 PM, Harald Hoyer wrote: On 07/30/2010 08:13 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/30/2010 08:52 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: fedpkg build fedpkg build Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/fedpkg", line 959, in a

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread seth vidal
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 18:50 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Also, check upstream git to figure out whether a project is dead. The > last commit there is from 2 weeks ago. Git can tell you something about > whether development happens. Bugzilla just tells you whether I have > devoted my life to

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 10:07 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > Would "Fix your existing broken crap before taking up something new." be less > antagonistic? No, it wouldn't, and you know that. Now you're just intentionally being rude. I ask again, please try to

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 17:07 +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > - "Jesse Keating" wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > > People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora > > users. > > > >

Re: Wordpress testers needed!

2010-08-02 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >  In an effort to try to reduce and eliminate Wordpress's reliance on > bundled PHP libraries, I've produced some test builds.  If someone > familiar with administering Wordpress and Wordpress-mu could test to > make sure the changes don't break a

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- "Jesse Keating" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora > users. > > > Language such as this is not being excellent to each other. It's > unnecessa

Wordpress testers needed!

2010-08-02 Thread Jon Ciesla
In an effort to try to reduce and eliminate Wordpress's reliance on bundled PHP libraries, I've produced some test builds. If someone familiar with administering Wordpress and Wordpress-mu could test to make sure the changes don't break anything and let me know, what would be wonderful and a

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- "Jesse Keating" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > > People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora > users. > > > Language such as this is not being excellent to each other. It's > unnecessa

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora users. Language such as this is not being excellent to each other. It's unnecessarily antagonistic. Please stop. - -- Jesse Keatin

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- "Lennart Poettering" wrote: > > No, it's not. I am just pushing systemd through right now, and did > other > stuff. > > Also, check upstream git to figure out whether a project is dead. The > last commit there is from 2 weeks ago. Git can tell you something > about > whether development

Re: RCS keywords rewritten in dist-git conversion?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 7:59 AM, Adam Goode wrote: > Does this warrant re-converting the package? Or I can fix up the patches > myself. I suspect parsecvs got confused by the contents of the file having RCS keywords. I could try re-converting it using git cvsimpor

Re: The move to git!

2010-08-02 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 07/30/2010 08:13 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/30/2010 08:52 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> >> fedpkg build >> fedpkg build >> Traceback (most recent call last): >>File "/usr/bin/fedpkg", line 959, in >> args.command(args) >>Fil

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.p...@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi all, > > maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me > to this conclusion? Well look at this: > * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSIGNED bugs right now [1] > * there was not fixed a single bug last six month

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2010 12:29 PM, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: > Stephen Gallagher wrote, at 08/03/2010 01:24 AM +9:00: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >>> python-recaptcha-client-1.0.5-3.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 >> >> This

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Monday, August 02, 2010 11:24:09 am Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > python-recaptcha-client-1.0.5-3.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 > > This has been built in Koji since July 30th (1) > > Why is it not making it into composes? > > > (1) http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildi

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