Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
let me summarise the ideas so far: stali ld wrapper window system bug and issue tracker improve dmc (mail) widget tool kit dwm in go text indexing ssl cert validation for surf text editor improve st (terminal) port scanner if we need to focus the application in one area then these are not very go

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 4 March 2010 11:40, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > let me summarise the ideas so far: > > stali > ld wrapper > window system > bug and issue tracker > improve dmc (mail) > widget tool kit > dwm in go > text indexing > ssl cert validation for surf > text editor > improve st (terminal) > port scanner > >

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread pancake
Szabolcs Nagy wrote: let me summarise the ideas so far: stali ld wrapper I didnt understood the concept at all. can somebody explain it better? window system a friend of me, who is a enlightenment developer is writing a new graphical system to replace X windows, it is not suckless, but

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Frederic DUBOIS
>> widget tool kit >> > > Anselm and me were discussing about the widget toolkit, the code name of the > project > is "dwk" Dynamic Widget Kit. which is atm just a README with few random > ideas. > >  http://hg.youterm.com/dwk Something like GraphApp? (http://www.enchantia.com/software/graphapp/)

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Mate Nagy
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:14:37PM +0100, Frederic DUBOIS wrote: > Something like GraphApp? (http://www.enchantia.com/software/graphapp/) looks nice until you realize it doesn't support fonts (and they even ideologized it for themselves in the FAQ) Mate

[dev] Re: Simple port scanner again (was: GSoC 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread anonymous
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 03:25:38PM -0600, eze.program...@gmail.com wrote: > I think this is a good project idea, and it would prove more than useful > also im looking forward to the simple port scanner, these project ideas > have caugth my attention. I have already posted a thread about port scann

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread pancake
Mate Nagy wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:14:37PM +0100, Frederic DUBOIS wrote: Something like GraphApp? (http://www.enchantia.com/software/graphapp/) looks nice until you realize it doesn't support fonts (and they even ideologized it for themselves in the FAQ) Mate why do you

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Frederic DUBOIS
2010/3/4 Mate Nagy : > On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:14:37PM +0100, Frederic DUBOIS wrote: > >> Something like GraphApp? (http://www.enchantia.com/software/graphapp/) > looks nice until you realize it doesn't support fonts (and they even > ideologized it for themselves in the FAQ) > It does. It is ev

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 4 March 2010 12:14, Frederic DUBOIS wrote: >>> widget tool kit >>> >> >> Anselm and me were discussing about the widget toolkit, the code name of the >> project >> is "dwk" Dynamic Widget Kit. which is atm just a README with few random >> ideas. >> >>  http://hg.youterm.com/dwk > > Something li

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 4 March 2010 11:40, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > if we need to focus the application in one area then these are not > very good i guess.. A lot of them have a theme, though. Gnome's GSoC theme is basically their desktop environment, which is fairly broad itself. If Suckless focus on a development en

Re: [dev] Re: Simple port scanner again (was: GSoC 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 4 March 2010 12:33, anonymous wrote: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 03:25:38PM -0600, eze.program...@gmail.com wrote: >> I think this is a good project idea, and it would prove more than useful >> also im looking forward to the simple port scanner, these project ideas >> have caugth my attention. >

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Mate Nagy
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:44:04PM +0100, pancake wrote: > why do you need TTF? font rendering is a really complex stuff, in dwk yes > we were only planning to support monospaced fonts, calculate sizes yes > with changing size of fonts is really complex and cpu-intensive task and yes > i dont thin

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 4 March 2010 12:48, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > On 4 March 2010 11:40, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: >> if we need to focus the application in one area then these are not >> very good i guess.. > > A lot of them have a theme, though. Gnome's GSoC theme is basically > their desktop environment, which is

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 4 March 2010 12:51, Mate Nagy wrote: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:44:04PM +0100, pancake wrote: > >> why do you need TTF? font rendering is a really complex stuff, in dwk > yes >> we were only planning to support monospaced fonts, calculate sizes > yes >> with changing size of fonts is really c

Re: [dev] Re: Simple port scanner again

2010-03-04 Thread anonymous
> What about fork()? Nowadays hardware is so powerful ;) fork() results > in nicer code ;) Creating thread is not as complex as passing host structures. For example, libthread from Plan 9 has channels. With pthread I should use condition variables and mutexes to implement queue.

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Mate Nagy
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 12:57:31PM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Well one design decision for the API I'm in favor with is not to > provide any font-related functionality in the first version and leave > font rendering up to the implementation. If someone writes an app he > shouldn't bother about

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread anonymous
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:51:12PM +0100, Mate Nagy wrote: > In non-uriel style, yes, font rendering is horribly complicated and an > entirely fucked up discipline, but I don't think a "real" widget set can > skip out on it. Bitmap fonts are fine for programming (and I even use it > for web browsin

Re: [dev] Re: Simple port scanner again (was: GSoC 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread Dmitry Maluka
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 03:33:53PM +0300, anonymous wrote: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 03:25:38PM -0600, eze.program...@gmail.com wrote: > > I think this is a good project idea, and it would prove more than useful > > also im looking forward to the simple port scanner, these project ideas > > have ca

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread hiro
Sub-pixel antialiasing - the vengeance of the color-blind ;)

Re: [dev] Re: Simple port scanner again (was: GSoC 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread anonymous
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 08:14:17PM +0200, Dmitry Maluka wrote: > Maybe I miss something, but why not just output results as far as hosts > are scanned? Output isn't that slow to use threads. The main idea was abstraction: scanning function just pass scanned host to next stage instead of calling ou

Re: [dev] Re: Simple port scanner again (was: GSoC 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread Dmitry Maluka
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 11:00:05PM +0300, anonymous wrote: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 08:14:17PM +0200, Dmitry Maluka wrote: > > Maybe I miss something, but why not just output results as far as hosts > > are scanned? Output isn't that slow to use threads. > > The main idea was abstraction: scannin

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Josh Rickmar
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 12:40:17PM +0100, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > let me summarise the ideas so far: > > stali > ld wrapper > window system > bug and issue tracker > improve dmc (mail) > widget tool kit > dwm in go > text indexing > ssl cert validation for surf > text editor > improve st (terminal)

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
Here is an idea the Google folks might like: Port sta.li (and p9p?) to use Android's libc. AFAIK there is no real linux distro that uses the Android libc, and this would be a project that might be useful for everyone. uriel On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > On 3 March 2010

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM, anonymous wrote: > I really think sub-pixel antialiasing is a good topic for harmful.cat-v.org. I don't know enough about this to form a remotely useful opinion, much less rant about it. But contributions to harmful.cat-v.org are always welcome... uriel

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
I will note that one of the original goals for creating werc was to help build a sane replacement for the kinds of things trac does, including bug tracking. I would be happy to mentor any project that works in that direction. uriel On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Another

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:38 PM, yy wrote: > I'm still a student (PhD student, but that's fine for Google), so I > will probably apply to participate as a student. > > Since Go was released I have been playing with it. Is there any > interest in the Go port of dwm? This would probably include the >

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:30 PM, yy wrote: > 2010/3/3 Anders Andersson : >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:38 PM, yy wrote: >>> Since Go was released I have been playing with it. Is there any >>> interest in the Go port of dwm? >> >> What would be the benefits of porting dwm to a new language? From my >

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Wed 03 Mar 2010 at 11:17:14 PST Kurt H Maier wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote: >>> >>> This is supposed to be a discussion on the Google Summer of Code, not a >>> nerd >>> fight about whether grep or awk i

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > let me summarise the ideas so far: > > stali > ld wrapper > window system > bug and issue tracker > improve dmc (mail) > widget tool kit > dwm in go > text indexing > ssl cert validation for surf > text editor > improve st (terminal) > port s

Re: [dev] Re: Simple port scanner again (was: GSoC 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > On 4 March 2010 12:33, anonymous wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 03:25:38PM -0600, eze.program...@gmail.com wrote: >>> I think this is a good project idea, and it would prove more than useful >>> also im looking forward to the simple port

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Josh Rickmar
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 11:19:01PM +0100, Uriel wrote: > I will note that one of the original goals for creating werc was to > help build a sane replacement for the kinds of things trac does, > including bug tracking. I would be happy to mentor any project that > works in that direction. > > uriel

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread pancake
Gogcc should work. Else you have Linux emulation. On Mar 5, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Josh Rickmar wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 11:19:01PM +0100, Uriel wrote: I will note that one of the original goals for creating werc was to help build a sane replacement for the kinds of things trac does, inc