Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: window system (Re: [dev] GSoC 2010)]]

2010-03-09 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
I' On 3/6/10, Noah Birnel wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 02:59:17PM +, Nick wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 06:46:37AM -0800, Noah Birnel wrote: >> > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:18:51PM +0100, pancake wrote: >> > > >> > > http://code.google.com/p/equanime >> > >> > Not Found >> > The reque

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-08 Thread Eze
I like this one too :) On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:25:10AM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > On 4 March 2010 22:15, Uriel wrote: > > Here is an idea the Google folks might like: Port sta.li (and p9p?) to > > use Android's libc. AFAIK there is no real linux distro that uses the > > Android libc, and th

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-08 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 8 March 2010 15:57, Gregor Best wrote: > On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 03:44:28PM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> [...] >> Sure, but according to the spec: >> >> "The strlen() function shall compute the number of bytes in the string >> to which s points, not including the terminating null byte." >> >

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-08 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Gregor Best wrote: > I never read the actual docs of that function (a few glances at the > manpage aside), and if it definitely says "count the number of bytes", > fine. But intuitively, I would've thought it gives the length of a > string, as in "how many letters a

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-08 Thread Gregor Best
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 03:44:28PM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > [...] > Sure, but according to the spec: > > "The strlen() function shall compute the number of bytes in the string > to which s points, not including the terminating null byte." > > strlen() should not count multi-char characters

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-08 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 8 March 2010 15:39, Gregor Best wrote: > On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 02:57:50PM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> [...] >> Can't see why UTF-8 would require any specific handling at the libc level. >> [...] > > Aren't strlen() and friends part of libc? Sure, but according to the spec: "The strlen()

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-08 Thread Gregor Best
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 02:57:50PM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > [...] > Can't see why UTF-8 would require any specific handling at the libc level. > [...] Aren't strlen() and friends part of libc? -- GCS/IT/M d- s+:- a-- C++ UL+++ US UB++ P+++ L+++ E--- W+ N+ o-- K- w--- ?O M-- ?V PS++ PE- Y++

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-08 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 8 March 2010 14:52, Jacob Todd wrote: > On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:25:10AM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> Good idea. I add it. >> >> Cheers, >> Anselm >> > That was fast. Doesn't Android's libc not have utf8 support at the libc level? > I thought I read somewhere that it didn't. Is that not ne

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-08 Thread Jacob Todd
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:25:10AM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Good idea. I add it. > > Cheers, > Anselm > That was fast. Doesn't Android's libc not have utf8 support at the libc level? I thought I read somewhere that it didn't. Is that not needed? -- I am a man who does not exist for others

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-08 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 4 March 2010 22:15, Uriel wrote: > Here is an idea the Google folks might like: Port sta.li (and p9p?) to > use Android's libc. AFAIK there is no real linux distro that uses the > Android libc, and this would be a project that might be useful for > everyone. Good idea. I add it. Cheers, Ansel

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: window system (Re: [dev] GSoC 2010)]]

2010-03-05 Thread Noah Birnel
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 02:59:17PM +, Nick wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 06:46:37AM -0800, Noah Birnel wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:18:51PM +0100, pancake wrote: > > > > > > http://code.google.com/p/equanime > > > > Not Found > > The requested URL /p/equanim/ was not found on this

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-05 Thread Marc Andre Tanner
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:07:13PM +0100, pancake wrote: > Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > >window system > a friend of me, who is a enlightenment developer is writing a new > graphical system > to replace X windows, it is not suckless, but really minimal, well Interesting to see something like this from a

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-05 Thread Josh Rickmar
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:47:12PM +0100, Uriel wrote: > Some people are supposedly working on an OpenBSD port, it is likely > that a port will be done long before GSoC actually starts. > > uriel Well, I do have a spare partition that I could throw Linux (stali?) or FreeBSD on, so it's not too bi

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: window system (Re: [dev] GSoC 2010)]]

2010-03-05 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Noah Birnel wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:18:51PM +0100, pancake wrote: >> > sounds interesting >> > link/more info? >> > >> >> http://code.google.com/p/equanime > > Not Found > The requested URL /p/equanim/ was not found on this server. > > Typo? Or is it gon

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: window system (Re: [dev] GSoC 2010)]]

2010-03-05 Thread Nick
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 06:46:37AM -0800, Noah Birnel wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:18:51PM +0100, pancake wrote: > > > > http://code.google.com/p/equanime > > Not Found > The requested URL /p/equanim/ was not found on this server. > > Typo? Or is it gone? On your part. Note the final 'e

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: window system (Re: [dev] GSoC 2010)]]

2010-03-05 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 5 March 2010 14:46, Noah Birnel wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:18:51PM +0100, pancake wrote: >> > sounds interesting >> > link/more info? >> > >> >> http://code.google.com/p/equanime > > Not Found > The requested URL /p/equanim/ was not found on this server. > > Typo? Or is it gone? Works

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: window system (Re: [dev] GSoC 2010)]]

2010-03-05 Thread Noah Birnel
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:18:51PM +0100, pancake wrote: > > sounds interesting > > link/more info? > > > > http://code.google.com/p/equanime Not Found The requested URL /p/equanim/ was not found on this server. Typo? Or is it gone? --Noah

[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: window system (Re: [dev] GSoC 2010)]]

2010-03-05 Thread pancake
--- Begin Message --- On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:46 PM, pancake wrote: > > > On 3/4/10, pancake wrote: >>> window system >>> >> a friend of me, who is a enlightenment developer is writing a new >> graphical system >> to replace X windows, it is not suckless, but really minimal, well >> designed

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-05 Thread Uriel
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:31 AM, pancake wrote: > Gogcc should work. Else you have Linux emulation. > > On Mar 5, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Josh Rickmar wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 11:19:01PM +0100, Uriel wrote: >>> >>> I will note that one of the original goals for creating werc was to >>> help

window system (Re: [dev] GSoC 2010)

2010-03-05 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 3/4/10, pancake wrote: >> window system >> > a friend of me, who is a enlightenment developer is writing a new > graphical system > to replace X windows, it is not suckless, but really minimal, well > designed and much > more well done than the Xwindowing system (its not that hard to do it > be

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread pancake
Gogcc should work. Else you have Linux emulation. On Mar 5, 2010, at 12:36 AM, Josh Rickmar wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 11:19:01PM +0100, Uriel wrote: I will note that one of the original goals for creating werc was to help build a sane replacement for the kinds of things trac does, inc

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Josh Rickmar
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 11:19:01PM +0100, Uriel wrote: > I will note that one of the original goals for creating werc was to > help build a sane replacement for the kinds of things trac does, > including bug tracking. I would be happy to mentor any project that > works in that direction. > > uriel

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > let me summarise the ideas so far: > > stali > ld wrapper > window system > bug and issue tracker > improve dmc (mail) > widget tool kit > dwm in go > text indexing > ssl cert validation for surf > text editor > improve st (terminal) > port s

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Charlie Kester wrote: > On Wed 03 Mar 2010 at 11:17:14 PST Kurt H Maier wrote: >> >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote: >>> >>> This is supposed to be a discussion on the Google Summer of Code, not a >>> nerd >>> fight about whether grep or awk i

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:30 PM, yy wrote: > 2010/3/3 Anders Andersson : >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:38 PM, yy wrote: >>> Since Go was released I have been playing with it. Is there any >>> interest in the Go port of dwm? >> >> What would be the benefits of porting dwm to a new language? From my >

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:38 PM, yy wrote: > I'm still a student (PhD student, but that's fine for Google), so I > will probably apply to participate as a student. > > Since Go was released I have been playing with it. Is there any > interest in the Go port of dwm? This would probably include the >

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
I will note that one of the original goals for creating werc was to help build a sane replacement for the kinds of things trac does, including bug tracking. I would be happy to mentor any project that works in that direction. uriel On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Another

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM, anonymous wrote: > I really think sub-pixel antialiasing is a good topic for harmful.cat-v.org. I don't know enough about this to form a remotely useful opinion, much less rant about it. But contributions to harmful.cat-v.org are always welcome... uriel

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Uriel
Here is an idea the Google folks might like: Port sta.li (and p9p?) to use Android's libc. AFAIK there is no real linux distro that uses the Android libc, and this would be a project that might be useful for everyone. uriel On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > On 3 March 2010

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Josh Rickmar
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 12:40:17PM +0100, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > let me summarise the ideas so far: > > stali > ld wrapper > window system > bug and issue tracker > improve dmc (mail) > widget tool kit > dwm in go > text indexing > ssl cert validation for surf > text editor > improve st (terminal)

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread hiro
Sub-pixel antialiasing - the vengeance of the color-blind ;)

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread anonymous
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:51:12PM +0100, Mate Nagy wrote: > In non-uriel style, yes, font rendering is horribly complicated and an > entirely fucked up discipline, but I don't think a "real" widget set can > skip out on it. Bitmap fonts are fine for programming (and I even use it > for web browsin

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Mate Nagy
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 12:57:31PM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Well one design decision for the API I'm in favor with is not to > provide any font-related functionality in the first version and leave > font rendering up to the implementation. If someone writes an app he > shouldn't bother about

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 4 March 2010 12:51, Mate Nagy wrote: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:44:04PM +0100, pancake wrote: > >> why do you need TTF? font rendering is a really complex stuff, in dwk > yes >> we were only planning to support monospaced fonts, calculate sizes > yes >> with changing size of fonts is really c

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 4 March 2010 12:48, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > On 4 March 2010 11:40, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: >> if we need to focus the application in one area then these are not >> very good i guess.. > > A lot of them have a theme, though. Gnome's GSoC theme is basically > their desktop environment, which is

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Mate Nagy
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:44:04PM +0100, pancake wrote: > why do you need TTF? font rendering is a really complex stuff, in dwk yes > we were only planning to support monospaced fonts, calculate sizes yes > with changing size of fonts is really complex and cpu-intensive task and yes > i dont thin

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 4 March 2010 11:40, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > if we need to focus the application in one area then these are not > very good i guess.. A lot of them have a theme, though. Gnome's GSoC theme is basically their desktop environment, which is fairly broad itself. If Suckless focus on a development en

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 4 March 2010 12:14, Frederic DUBOIS wrote: >>> widget tool kit >>> >> >> Anselm and me were discussing about the widget toolkit, the code name of the >> project >> is "dwk" Dynamic Widget Kit. which is atm just a README with few random >> ideas. >> >>  http://hg.youterm.com/dwk > > Something li

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Frederic DUBOIS
2010/3/4 Mate Nagy : > On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:14:37PM +0100, Frederic DUBOIS wrote: > >> Something like GraphApp? (http://www.enchantia.com/software/graphapp/) > looks nice until you realize it doesn't support fonts (and they even > ideologized it for themselves in the FAQ) > It does. It is ev

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread pancake
Mate Nagy wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:14:37PM +0100, Frederic DUBOIS wrote: Something like GraphApp? (http://www.enchantia.com/software/graphapp/) looks nice until you realize it doesn't support fonts (and they even ideologized it for themselves in the FAQ) Mate why do you

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Mate Nagy
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:14:37PM +0100, Frederic DUBOIS wrote: > Something like GraphApp? (http://www.enchantia.com/software/graphapp/) looks nice until you realize it doesn't support fonts (and they even ideologized it for themselves in the FAQ) Mate

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Frederic DUBOIS
>> widget tool kit >> > > Anselm and me were discussing about the widget toolkit, the code name of the > project > is "dwk" Dynamic Widget Kit. which is atm just a README with few random > ideas. > >  http://hg.youterm.com/dwk Something like GraphApp? (http://www.enchantia.com/software/graphapp/)

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread pancake
Szabolcs Nagy wrote: let me summarise the ideas so far: stali ld wrapper I didnt understood the concept at all. can somebody explain it better? window system a friend of me, who is a enlightenment developer is writing a new graphical system to replace X windows, it is not suckless, but

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 4 March 2010 11:40, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > let me summarise the ideas so far: > > stali > ld wrapper > window system > bug and issue tracker > improve dmc (mail) > widget tool kit > dwm in go > text indexing > ssl cert validation for surf > text editor > improve st (terminal) > port scanner > >

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
let me summarise the ideas so far: stali ld wrapper window system bug and issue tracker improve dmc (mail) widget tool kit dwm in go text indexing ssl cert validation for surf text editor improve st (terminal) port scanner if we need to focus the application in one area then these are not very go

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread eze . programmer
I think this is a good project idea, and it would prove more than useful also im looking forward to the simple port scanner, these project ideas have caugth my attention. On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 03:41:12PM +0100, Nicolai Waniek wrote: > On 03/03/2010 02:46 PM, Peter John Hartman wrote: > > I agree

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread pancake
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:27:34 -0500 Jacob Todd wrote: > I'd like to see dmc improved upon. In it's current state it can already send > mail with smtp, but there are also aspects of it that could be polished a bit > more, like being able to receive mail, pgp support, et cetera. well. in fact, the s

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Josh Rickmar
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 07:16:22PM -0500, Jacob Todd wrote: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 07:01:48PM -0500, Josh Rickmar wrote: > > Should probably say that I'm also a student (studying Computer > > Engineering at the University of Michigan) that would be interested in > > doing something like this. I

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Jacob Todd
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 07:01:48PM -0500, Josh Rickmar wrote: > Should probably say that I'm also a student (studying Computer > Engineering at the University of Michigan) that would be interested in > doing something like this. I don't yet know what exact project I'd like > to take, keep posting

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Josh Rickmar
Should probably say that I'm also a student (studying Computer Engineering at the University of Michigan) that would be interested in doing something like this. I don't yet know what exact project I'd like to take, keep posting ideas.

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Paul O'Leary McCann
I'm an interested student as well; I'm a senior in Providence, Rhode Island, USA, doing a master's next year. -POLM

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Rob
Hi, yet another student here, of the second year British variety. I'd be interested in getting involved along the lines of a development environment with something like a suckless text editor, with decent mouse interaction a la Acme. Could be better to leave the terminal and use X11. Personally, I

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Josh Rickmar
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 09:47:08PM +, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > As an aside, where are the stali utils from? Not GNU, surely? It's using a OpenBSD userland if I recall.

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey all, I'm a first year student, and I'd be interested in helping out for GSoC. I like the idea of centring the projects on a "development environment", which doesn't seem too broad. I'm personally interested in writing a Unix-native samterm of some kind (I love sam, but not the Plan 9 samterm)

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Jacob Todd
I'd like to see dmc improved upon. In it's current state it can already send mail with smtp, but there are also aspects of it that could be polished a bit more, like being able to receive mail, pgp support, et cetera. More work on stali would be very nice, too. -- I am a man who does not exist fo

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 03 Mar 2010 at 11:17:14 PST Kurt H Maier wrote: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote: This is supposed to be a discussion on the Google Summer of Code, not a nerd fight about whether grep or awk is better, and how to manage files.  Can you guys fork your discussion? you

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 3/3/10, Antoni Grzymala wrote: > $ strings /tmp/grep | /tmp/grep -i network > Machine is not on the network > Name not unique on network > Network is down > Network is unreachable > Network dropped connection on reset > > and valuable Xenix support: > > Not a XENIX named type file > No XENIX se

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Niki Yoshiuchi wrote: > This is supposed to be a discussion on the Google Summer of Code, not a nerd > fight about whether grep or awk is better, and how to manage files.  Can you > guys fork your discussion? you're right, but clearly the only way to decide whether

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Chris Palmer wrote: > Please tell us about your data organization scheme, such that you can find > anything you have -- email, PDFs, Postscript, music, text files, HTML files, > et c. -- in the same amount of time a Google, Google Desktop, Spotlight, or > Windows Se

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Niki Yoshiuchi
This is supposed to be a discussion on the Google Summer of Code, not a nerd fight about whether grep or awk is better, and how to manage files. Can you guys fork your discussion? On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Chris Palmer wrote: > Anders Andersson writes: > > > p...@airwaves:~$ size `which a

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Chris Palmer
Anders Andersson writes: > p...@airwaves:~$ size `which awk` >textdata bss dec hex filename > 3134831392 20584 335459 51e63 /usr/bin/awk Small price to pay for something that can basically do the job of almost the entire Unix userland. Also, yours is bloated (but st

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Chris Palmer
Kurt H Maier writes: > it's not my fault you're bad at organizing your data Please tell us about your data organization scheme, such that you can find anything you have -- email, PDFs, Postscript, music, text files, HTML files, et c. -- in the same amount of time a Google, Google Desktop, Spotlig

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Anders Andersson
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Chris Palmer wrote: > Anselm R Garbe writes: > >> Stali's grep is smaller than your bloated 78kb dynamic executable, see >> attached. It's 63kb actually and runs on all x86 linux platforms. > > An awk script equivalent to grep is at least one order of magnitude smal

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Anselm R Garbe dixit (2010-03-03, 18:55): > On 3 March 2010 18:33, Chris Palmer wrote: > > Kurt H Maier writes: > > > >> > We need a desktop text indexing system that sucks less. > >> > >> grep > > > > First of all, I had never heard of this program. It is so great! Wow! Thanks > > for the sugges

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Chris Palmer
Anselm R Garbe writes: > Stali's grep is smaller than your bloated 78kb dynamic executable, see > attached. It's 63kb actually and runs on all x86 linux platforms. An awk script equivalent to grep is at least one order of magnitude smaller, and possibly two.

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Chris Palmer wrote: > Kurt H Maier writes: > >> > We need a desktop text indexing system that sucks less. >> >> grep > > First of all, I had never heard of this program. It is so great! Wow! Thanks > for the suggestion! In 45 minutes when my query has completed, I'l

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Chris Palmer
David Thiel writes: > > grep > > ...is not an example of an indexing system. That's a feature, not a bug. Hash tables are bloatware. If you can't do it with linear search, you shouldn't do it. Don't even get me started on red-black trees... > While such a system would be useful, I'm doubtful th

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Chris Palmer
Kurt H Maier writes: > > We need a desktop text indexing system that sucks less. > > grep First of all, I had never heard of this program. It is so great! Wow! Thanks for the suggestion! In 45 minutes when my query has completed, I'll buy you a beer. I assume you prefer Coors Lite? Second, the

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread yy
2010/3/3 Anders Andersson : > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:38 PM, yy wrote: >> Since Go was released I have been playing with it. Is there any >> interest in the Go port of dwm? > > What would be the benefits of porting dwm to a new language? From my > point of view, dwm is already functional and matu

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread David E. Thiel
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 08:07:19AM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > What project ideas do you have apart from http://suckless.org/project_ideas? SSH-model SSL certificate validation for surf.

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread David E. Thiel
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 01:11:00PM -0500, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Chris Palmer wrote: > > We need a desktop text indexing system that sucks less. > > grep ...is not an example of an indexing system. While such a system would be useful, I'm doubtful that a ``suckles

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Chris Palmer wrote: > We need a desktop text indexing system that sucks less. grep -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Chris Palmer
pancake writes: > >We need a desktop text indexing system that sucks less. > > desktop sucks by definition. You are very helpful. How about "We need a text indexing system for personal data stored locally on small computers that sucks less."

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Nicolai Waniek
On 03/03/2010 06:28 PM, Anders Andersson wrote: > What would be the benefits of porting dwm to a new language? From my > point of view, dwm is already functional and mature, porting it over > to Go doesn't sound very constructive. And porting it is a real pain, at the moment. For example, you don'

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread pancake
Chris Palmer wrote: We need a desktop text indexing system that sucks less. desktop sucks by definition.

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 3 March 2010 16:38, yy wrote: > I'm still a student (PhD student, but that's fine for Google), so I > will probably apply to participate as a student. > > Since Go was released I have been playing with it. Is there any > interest in the Go port of dwm? This would probably include the > improvem

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Chris Palmer
We need a desktop text indexing system that sucks less.

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread pancake
EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY. dwm in go takes not much sense from my point of view. It will make code slower, afaik C bindings are not as clean as writnig C directly and there's no interesting feature from Go to be used in dwm code. Anders Andersson wrote: On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:38 PM, yy wr

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Anders Andersson
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:38 PM, yy wrote: > Since Go was released I have been playing with it. Is there any > interest in the Go port of dwm? What would be the benefits of porting dwm to a new language? From my point of view, dwm is already functional and mature, porting it over to Go doesn't sou

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread yy
I'm still a student (PhD student, but that's fine for Google), so I will probably apply to participate as a student. Since Go was released I have been playing with it. Is there any interest in the Go port of dwm? This would probably include the improvement of the xgb go package (which I don't know

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Kurt H Maier
Anselm, I saw where you had some base ideas for a widget toolkit. I think that'd be a great GSoC project. I also support the bug tracking software idea, but a non-retarded toolkit would make my day. -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Nicolai Waniek
On 03/03/2010 02:46 PM, Peter John Hartman wrote: > I agree about the issue trackers + the mail integration. A small > suggestion: none of the issue/bug tracking systems do collaboration very > well either. What I mean by "collaboration" is the capacity to pass a > single document back and forth

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Peter John Hartman
I agree about the issue trackers + the mail integration. A small suggestion: none of the issue/bug tracking systems do collaboration very well either. What I mean by "collaboration" is the capacity to pass a single document back and forth with several "notes" appended to it. a giant "comments"

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Christoph Dibak
Hi folks, I found some interesting issue-/bug tracking system last week. Even its written in Python the idea is cool. Bugs Everywhere (http://bugseverywhere.org/) uses the underlying scm (aka git, hg, bzr) to store its data on. It has also a mail-frontend like the debian BTS (didnt tried it, j

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 3 March 2010 10:09, pancake wrote: > About the distro I think it requires so many stuff on it, so at this moment > I think is more important to push partial projects before working on stali. These are the current main drivers of stali (or my take on it): a) having a decent toolchain and build

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread pancake
About the mail part of the bug tracker.. why not push 'dmc'? and fix the imap protocol, implement the SMTP part and write a frontend. This can sound like not so much work..but it does from the side that it is actually not usable application, and it needs some love. I think that a decent minimal

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread pancake
+1 Current bugtrackers sucks. The linker proposal, looks interesting, but i dont get the idea at all, i would do it if i get bored somewhile..but i can't trick google to say that i'm a student. Is your idea to create a static bin from a shared one? There's a program called 'staticify' or somethi

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Another idea that I'd like to push this year is the creation of a suckless issue tracking/bug tracking system. All existing systems suck and it is still a burden for projects and small businesses to track bugs or customer issues in less sucking ways. The existing alternatives are all a big desgrace

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Johannes Wegener
I would love to see a suckless windowing system. I know that it is a point on the project page. But that is something I see as a important thing for me. But I'm also not sure if that is something which can be done during the GSoC. I think the approch of Stali is intresting but since I'm a BSD guy

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 3 March 2010 08:22, Martin Kopta wrote: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 08:07:19AM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> GSoC 2010 has kicked of and is looking for mentoring organisations >> next week, hence it's time now to get organised. >> >> Who is willing to mentor this time? >> >> Wha

Re: [dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Martin Kopta
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 08:07:19AM +, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > Hi there, > > GSoC 2010 has kicked of and is looking for mentoring organisations > next week, hence it's time now to get organised. > > Who is willing to mentor this time? > > What project ideas do you have apart from http://suckl

[dev] GSoC 2010

2010-03-03 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Hi there, GSoC 2010 has kicked of and is looking for mentoring organisations next week, hence it's time now to get organised. Who is willing to mentor this time? What project ideas do you have apart from http://suckless.org/project_ideas? Note, to be successful this time, we need to focus on a

Re: [dev] gsoc 2010

2010-01-26 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Hi Markus, 2010/1/25 markus schnalke : > Are there plans to apply for Google Summer of Code, this year? Yes. We will apply again. This time we need to focus the scope a bit more, the feedback from Google regarding last application was basically that they didn't see a strong focus into a particula

Re: [dev] gsoc 2010

2010-01-26 Thread Uriel
I sure hope so. uriel On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:26 PM, markus schnalke wrote: > Are there plans to apply for Google Summer of Code, this year? > > I ask because I want to apply as student. > > > meillo > >

[dev] gsoc 2010

2010-01-25 Thread markus schnalke
Are there plans to apply for Google Summer of Code, this year? I ask because I want to apply as student. meillo