Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-06 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: > > On 9/6/2013 4:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > Another angle is to realize that enabling the user and motivating them in >> a specific direction is more powerful than trying to steer them away from a >> specific direction. Maybe the problem is

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-06 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 06/09/2013 22:37, Andrew Rist a écrit : Perhaps this is a situation of people who are more comfortable with email as a tool as opposed to a forum. If you are not familiar with forums in general, our forum can be pretty daunting to navigate - there's a lot of info there. Do we have a way of

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-06 Thread Andrew Rist
On 9/6/2013 4:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote: Another angle is to realize that enabling the user and motivating them in a specific direction is more powerful than trying to steer them away from a specific direction. Maybe the problem is we are not making the support forums sound attractive enough? May

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-06 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 09/06/2013 01:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 09/06/2013 03:24 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Sep 5, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM, sebb wrote: A related issue is: why so many emails with the (irreleva

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-06 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 09/06/2013 03:24 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher: > >> >> On Sep 5, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM, sebb wrote: >>> A related issue is: why so many emails with the (irrelevant) subject: "Rep

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-06 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 09/06/2013 03:24 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Sep 5, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM, sebb wrote: A related issue is: why so many emails with the (irrelevant) subject: "Reporting a problem with the Open Office website" that's the pre-constructed subj

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 5, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM, sebb wrote: > >> A related issue is: why so many emails with the (irrelevant) subject: >> >> "Reporting a problem with the Open Office website" >> > > that's the pre-constructed subject for the first entry in: >

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 6:29 AM, sebb wrote: > On 5 September 2013 12:00, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:24 AM, sebb wrote: > >> The dev list sees the occasional thread which IMO really belongs on > >> the user list/forum > >> > >> Although it is convenient for the poster to have t

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM, sebb wrote: > A related issue is: why so many emails with the (irrelevant) subject: > > "Reporting a problem with the Open Office website" > that's the pre-constructed subject for the first entry in: "If you have technical problems with one of the Apache OpenOffi

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread sebb
A related issue is: why so many emails with the (irrelevant) subject: "Reporting a problem with the Open Office website" I assume there must be a mailto: link somewhere that is producing this. The surrounding text may need to be tweaked to reduce these. On 5 September 2013 22:48, Kay Schenk w

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 05/09/2013 21:13, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : Considering the people we are dealing with (users who are often unfamiliar with mailing lists) I think that we should continue to moderate messages and replying, but add to the reply something like: Please note that this mailing list is not the ri

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Peter Junge wrote: Unfortunately it's not possible to already redirecting to the user list during moderating. I would guess at least 80% of user topics here are moderated in. Didn't we discuss mechanisms to restrict postings to dev@ a couple of months ago? Considering the people we are dealing

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread sebb
On 5 September 2013 12:00, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:24 AM, sebb wrote: >> The dev list sees the occasional thread which IMO really belongs on >> the user list/forum >> >> Although it is convenient for the poster to have the question answered >> on the dev list, I wonder if that

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread sebb
On 5 September 2013 12:15, Peter Junge wrote: > On 9/5/2013 5:24 PM, sebb wrote: >> >> The dev list sees the occasional thread which IMO really belongs on >> the user list/forum >> >> Although it is convenient for the poster to have the question answered >> on the dev list, I wonder if that is the

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread Peter Junge
On 9/5/2013 5:24 PM, sebb wrote: The dev list sees the occasional thread which IMO really belongs on the user list/forum Although it is convenient for the poster to have the question answered on the dev list, I wonder if that is the best approach overall. The disadvantages of not referring the

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:24 AM, sebb wrote: > The dev list sees the occasional thread which IMO really belongs on > the user list/forum > > Although it is convenient for the poster to have the question answered > on the dev list, I wonder if that is the best approach overall. > > The disadvantages

User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread sebb
The dev list sees the occasional thread which IMO really belongs on the user list/forum Although it is convenient for the poster to have the question answered on the dev list, I wonder if that is the best approach overall. The disadvantages of not referring the poster to the user list are several