RE: Questions about the release notes

2020-11-11 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 10:56 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Questions about the release notes > > 2. > > Who can say something about the entry "AOO

Re: Questions about the release notes

2020-11-11 Thread Marcus
Am 11.11.20 um 09:27 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: I started with a German translation of the release note, but I have the following questions: 1. Are there any new dictionaries? (The statements under "Improvements/Enhancements" and "Language Support" seem to be contradictory to each other). to make

Re: Questions to update the 4.1.4 Release Notes

2017-09-12 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Keith, Am 10.09.2017 um 01:40 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: > I have been reviewing the Release Notes for the 4.1.4 Release and have a > couple of questions on the Known Issues section. > > 1. For developers: the source package of OpenOffice 4.1.4 will not build > on 32-bit versions of Ubuntu 14.04

Re: Questions to update the 4.1.4 Release Notes

2017-09-10 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 10.09.2017 um 01:40 schrieb Keith N. McKenna: > I have been reviewing the Release Notes for the 4.1.4 Release and have a > couple of questions on the Known Issues section. > > 1. For developers: the source package of OpenOffice 4.1.4 will not build > on 32-bit versions of Ubuntu 14.04 and simil

Re: Questions about AOO Users

2016-11-26 Thread toki
On 24/11/16 08:29, RA Stehmann wrote: > distribute AOO, all figures are not really significant to identify the number > of users. Twould be much more appropriate to recommend software on the basis of the client's proposed use case, using examples of users with similar use-cases, that demonstrate

Re: Questions about AOO Users

2016-11-24 Thread RA Stehmann
Hello, only a few remarks: Am 24.11.2016 um 07:02 schrieb toki: > On 23/11/16 22:10, Crystal wrote: . > >> 2.)Approximately how many users of OpenOffice are there worldwide? > > Being FLOSS, there is no way to know if one download represents one > user, or 40,000 users. Likewise, there is n

Re: Questions about AOO Users

2016-11-23 Thread toki
On 23/11/16 22:10, Crystal wrote: > I will need an answer on or before 28-Nov-2016 Dropping a question like this the day before a _major_ holiday in the US, with an expected response before the first workday after that holiday, to ask specific questions about usage in the US is really bad planni

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-28 Thread Gav
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:10 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 08/28/2016 10:52 AM, Don Lewis wrote: > > On 28 Aug, Kay Schenk wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 08/27/2016 06:22 PM, Gav wrote: > >>> Hi. > >>> > >>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Don Lewis > wrote: > >>> > On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: > >>>

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-28 Thread Kay Schenk
On 08/28/2016 10:52 AM, Don Lewis wrote: > On 28 Aug, Kay Schenk wrote: >> >> >> On 08/27/2016 06:22 PM, Gav wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Don Lewis wrote: >>> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Don Lewis wrote: > >> On 28 Aug,

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-28 Thread Don Lewis
On 28 Aug, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 08/27/2016 06:22 PM, Gav wrote: >> Hi. >> >> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Don Lewis wrote: >> >>> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Don Lewis wrote: > On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: >> Hi Don, >> >> On Sun, Aug

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-28 Thread Kay Schenk
On 08/27/2016 06:22 PM, Gav wrote: > Hi. > > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Don Lewis wrote: > >> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Don Lewis wrote: >>> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: > Hi Don, > > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Don Lewis >> wrote: >>>

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-27 Thread Gav
Hi. On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Don Lewis wrote: > On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Don Lewis wrote: > > > >> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: > >> > Hi Don, > >> > > >> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Don Lewis > wrote: > >> > > >> >> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: > >> >> >

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-27 Thread Don Lewis
On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Don Lewis wrote: > >> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: >> > Hi Don, >> > >> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Don Lewis wrote: >> > >> >> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: >> >> > junit 4.11 is installed on the new buildbots we are prepping for use >> fwiw >>

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-27 Thread Gav
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Don Lewis wrote: > On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: > > Hi Don, > > > > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Don Lewis wrote: > > > >> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: > >> > junit 4.11 is installed on the new buildbots we are prepping for use > fwiw > >> > >> We'll also need hamcrest v

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-27 Thread Don Lewis
On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: > Hi Don, > > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Don Lewis wrote: > >> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: >> > junit 4.11 is installed on the new buildbots we are prepping for use fwiw >> >> We'll also need hamcrest version 1.3. >> > > Ubuntu 14.04 LTS python-hamcrest is version 1.8 , i

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-27 Thread Gav
Hi Don, On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Don Lewis wrote: > On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: > > junit 4.11 is installed on the new buildbots we are prepping for use fwiw > > We'll also need hamcrest version 1.3. > Ubuntu 14.04 LTS python-hamcrest is version 1.8 , is that too new? I'd like to try and sti

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-27 Thread Don Lewis
On 28 Aug, Gav wrote: > junit 4.11 is installed on the new buildbots we are prepping for use fwiw We'll also need hamcrest version 1.3. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-m

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-27 Thread Gav
junit 4.11 is installed on the new buildbots we are prepping for use fwiw Gav... On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 08/26/2016 04:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > Kay Schenk wrote: > >> Do you really mean 16.04 LTS? Is there a buildbot setup with this? I > >> am NOT

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-26 Thread Kay Schenk
On 08/26/2016 04:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Kay Schenk wrote: >> Do you really mean 16.04 LTS? Is there a buildbot setup with this? I >> am NOT >> a Ubuntu person. > > Yes, I did mean 16.04 LTS. But I see that end of life for 14.04 > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases is April 2019, so 5 year

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Kay Schenk wrote: Do you really mean 16.04 LTS? Is there a buildbot setup with this? I am NOT a Ubuntu person. Yes, I did mean 16.04 LTS. But I see that end of life for 14.04 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases is April 2019, so 5 years and not 3 as it was for earlier Ubuntu LTS versions. This m

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-25 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 24/08/2016 Kay Schenk wrote: > >> Continuing discussion with infra due to EOL on both the systems we are >> currently using indicates we will probably be moving to Ubuntu 14.04 >> buildbots for Linux 32 and Linux 64. I'll keep you updat

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 24/08/2016 Kay Schenk wrote: Continuing discussion with infra due to EOL on both the systems we are currently using indicates we will probably be moving to Ubuntu 14.04 buildbots for Linux 32 and Linux 64. I'll keep you updated. For the same reason, wouldn't it be better to move to 16.04 LTS

Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-24 Thread Kay Schenk
ion with pono from infra > > > Forwarded Message > Subject: Re: Questions about buildbot internals > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 09:31:45 -0700 > From: Kay sch...@apache.org > Reply-To: ksch...@apache.org > To: Pono Takamori &

Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

2016-08-23 Thread Kay sch...@apache.org
FYI: communication with pono from infra Forwarded Message Subject:Re: Questions about buildbot internals Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 09:31:45 -0700 From: Kay sch...@apache.org Reply-To: ksch...@apache.org To: Pono Takamori CC: infrastruct...@apache.org

Re: [QUESTIONS] RE: [ISSUE DISCUSSIONS]

2016-01-01 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 23/11/2015 01:06, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit : I also have a moderate concern that the Forum community is perhaps too separate from the rest of the project and we need a way for all voices to be heard, including working out proposals for remedies. In both directions. Any ideas on how to fac

RE: [QUESTIONS] RE: [ISSUE DISCUSSIONS]

2015-11-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] > Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 14:34 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [QUESTIONS] RE: [ISSUE DISCUSSIONS] > > On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 09:29:07 -0800 > "Dennis E. Hamilto

Re: [QUESTIONS] RE: [ISSUE DISCUSSIONS]

2015-11-22 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 09:29:07 -0800 "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: > I remain puzzled about the use of Forums as places to pre-discuss issues with > proposed resolutions brought to Bugzilla or dev@ to "verify consensus." I > can easily be guilty of having not paid attention. Or there is a simple

Re: [QUESTIONS] How Is Apache OpenOffice Used - Instrumentation

2015-11-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I am not certain that we have the resources to do that. So this is a thought-experiment. It is a thought-experiment, but it is code we (probably) already have. Just, we've now disabled the usage tracking, which was existing (always opt-in, never silently enabled by

RE: [QUESTIONS] How Is Apache OpenOffice Used - Instrumentation

2015-11-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I suppose a course estimate is also a coarse one [;<). If we need to go beyond analyzing what is revealed in reports to the project, there remains the prospect for instrumentation. I am not certain that we have the resources to do that. So this is a thought-experiment. INSTRUMENTATION There

Re: QUESTIONS RE: Maintenance of AOO Wiki and Forum

2015-08-18 Thread jan i
On 17 August 2015 at 23:23, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Thanks Tony, this reminds me of some questions that would help us > understand what is involved. These questions are anyone knowledgable of > the current arrangements: > > I see four levels of support to wikis and forums: > > 1. User Accou

RE: QUESTIONS RE: Maintenance of AOO Wiki and Forum

2015-08-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
onday, August 17, 2015 14:42 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org Subject: Re: QUESTIONS RE: Maintenance of AOO Wiki and Forum On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 02:23:48PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Thanks Tony, this reminds me of some questions that would help us understand > what

Re: QUESTIONS RE: Maintenance of AOO Wiki and Forum

2015-08-17 Thread Tony Stevenson
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 02:23:48PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Thanks Tony, this reminds me of some questions that would help us understand > what is involved. These questions are anyone knowledgable of the current > arrangements: > > I see four levels of support to wikis and forums: >

Re: Questions

2015-05-23 Thread Dave Barton
Original Message From: Alexandro Colorado To: Apache OpenOffice Developer Date: Sat, 23 May 2015 01:52:30 -0500 > On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Dave Bridges wrote: > >> None of the free support sites tell you how to ask a question. My >> questions are: >> 1. How do I ask a

Re: Questions

2015-05-22 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I recomend using forum.openoffice.org For your other question each workbook is indeendent from each other, your desktop environment might take care of that. On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Dave Bridges wrote: > None of the free support sites tell you how to ask a question. My > questions are:

Re: Questions

2014-08-18 Thread Dave Barton
trek...@aol.com wrote: > This email is written in HTML format. Please enable HTML mode to view this > email. Here is the OP's moderated email in plain text: I have open office on my computer and this only started today. Every time I try to open a file - it brings up Filter selection and everyone

Re: questions about crash reporting, error report tool

2014-06-28 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 27/05/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: > >> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/CrashReporting >> is no longer a default in our binaries? >> Is this correct? >> > > Correct. > > > Is this the same thing that's called the "Error Report Tool" in the

Re: questions about crash reporting, error report tool

2014-06-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 27/05/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/CrashReporting is no longer a default in our binaries? Is this correct? Correct. Is this the same thing that's called the "Error Report Tool" in the application help? It is. The last discussion I could find about this: http:

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-04-05 Thread Kay Schenk
--- > From: Damjan Jovanovic [mailto:dam...@apache.org] > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 00:17 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB? > > We can't really change the embedded DB, only add a new implementation - > compatib

RE: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-04-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
pendencies) in Base. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Damjan Jovanovic [mailto:dam...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 00:17 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB? We can't really change the embedded DB, only add a new

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-04-05 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
e any three." I love the brass! > <http://sqlite.org/> > > -Original Message- > From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 14:05 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB? &

RE: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-04-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Small. Fast. Reliable. Choose any three." I love the brass! <http://sqlite.org/> -Original Message- From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 14:05 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB? [

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-04-04 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Max Merbald wrote: > Hello there, > > while the base module of AOO is not used all that often, it's the only > free database software. You may want to take a look at this page from Wikipedia. Not guaranteed of course. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fre

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-04-01 Thread Kay Schenk
[ top posting ] We have gone off topic a bit from the initial subject of this thread. But please feel free to add comments on the original subject if you feel inclined. And, for those who have volunteered to continue helping with HSQL, thank you. On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Kay Schenk

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-31 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Michael Lam wrote: > On 03/30/2013 04:30 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >> On 29/03/2013 Reizinger Zoltán wrote: >> >>> 2013.03.29. 17:25 keltezéssel, Michael Lam írta: >>> I have been working on updating the HSQL to the latest version. I have most of the

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-30 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Michael, On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 05:26:04PM -0400, Michael Lam wrote: > As fir the cws hsqldb19 branch, i did check through it and the > patches from there are currently being used. Beside that I didn't > see any relevant changes, for example the check for 1.8.x in the > configure script. I ran

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-30 Thread Michael Lam
On 03/30/2013 04:30 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 29/03/2013 Reizinger Zoltán wrote: 2013.03.29. 17:25 keltezéssel, Michael Lam írta: I have been working on updating the HSQL to the latest version. I have most of the configure and build portion ready Thank you, Michael! While in general Base

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 29/03/2013 Reizinger Zoltán wrote: 2013.03.29. 17:25 keltezéssel, Michael Lam írta: I have been working on updating the HSQL to the latest version. I have most of the configure and build portion ready Thank you, Michael! While in general Base sees less attention from developers, I suspect

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-30 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Mechtilde wrote: > Hello > > Am 29.03.2013 19:07, schrieb Kay Schenk: > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Reizinger Zoltán >wrote: > > > >> 2013.03.29. 17:25 keltezéssel, Michael Lam írta: > >> > >> On 03/28/2013 01:24 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > >>> > On We

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-29 Thread Mechtilde
Hello Am 29.03.2013 19:07, schrieb Kay Schenk: > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Reizinger Zoltán > wrote: > >> 2013.03.29. 17:25 keltezéssel, Michael Lam írta: >> >> On 03/28/2013 01:24 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak < and...@pito

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-29 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote: > 2013.03.29. 17:25 keltezéssel, Michael Lam írta: > > On 03/28/2013 01:24 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak < >>> and...@pitonyak.org> wrote: >>> >>> On 03/27/2013 04:57 PM, Kay Schenk

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-29 Thread Reizinger Zoltán
2013.03.29. 17:25 keltezéssel, Michael Lam írta: On 03/28/2013 01:24 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak < and...@pitonyak.org> wrote: On 03/27/2013 04:57 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Well Derby does seem to be "embed-able ". See: http://db.apache.org/der

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-29 Thread Michael Lam
On 03/28/2013 01:24 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak < and...@pitonyak.org> wrote: On 03/27/2013 04:57 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Well Derby does seem to be "embed-able ". See: http://db.apache.org/derby/**papers/DerbyTut/embedded_**intro.html

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-28 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak < and...@pitonyak.org> wrote: > > On 03/27/2013 04:57 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > >> Well Derby does seem to be "embed-able ". See: >> >> http://db.apache.org/derby/**papers/DerbyTut/embedded_**intro.html

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 03/27/2013 04:57 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Well Derby does seem to be "embed-able ". See: http://db.apache.org/derby/papers/DerbyTut/embedded_intro.html This has been suggested before, as early as 2006. See: http://markmail.org/message/kp5n2d5yzhprgpjm Still, is any embedded DB a good thing?

RE: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
red by the HSQLDB team might be an important factor: <http://hsqldb.org/web/openoffice.html>. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 17:10 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: questions about Base---do we nee

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Donald Whytock wrote: Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based DBMS in the Foundation. It's actively maintained, and, while it's written in Java, it still works in a client/server model and is therefore probably lau

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: > > On 27.03.2013 21:57, Kay Schenk wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Donald Whytock > wrote: > > > >> Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based > >> DBMS in the Foundation. It's actively maintained, an

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
On 27.03.2013 21:57, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Donald Whytock wrote: > >> Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based >> DBMS in the Foundation. It's actively maintained, and, while it's >> written in Java, it still works in a client/server mode

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Fred Ollinger
What was the original problem that we are trying to solve? >From what I can gather we have no idea how many people use Base. There's speculation that it's small, but unless it's measured, what does this mean? Also, there are some people who think that Base works for them and that it's critical for

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Donald Whytock wrote: > Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based > DBMS in the Foundation. It's actively maintained, and, while it's > written in Java, it still works in a client/server model and is > therefore probably launchable. > >

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Donald Whytock
Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based DBMS in the Foundation. It's actively maintained, and, while it's written in Java, it still works in a client/server model and is therefore probably launchable. Since it's in the family and all, perhaps it can be bundled with OOo,

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Max Merbald
Hello there, while the base module of AOO is not used all that often, it's the only free database software. If, for example, you want one from Microsoft you need to buy the very much overpriced MS Office Professional. Well, I've used Base already and I find it handy for my personal needs. I'm

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Kay, Kay Schenk schrieb: Well no doubt this may start a rather heated discussion. [..] I don't really know who the author is, but, I too, had been giving this a great deal of thought. Does a user know what any of this really means, for example. And, including an embedded DB like HSQL puts

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread janI
On 27 March 2013 17:12, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Guy Waterval >wrote: > > > Hi Andrew, > > Hi all, > > > > 2013/3/27 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak > > > > > > > > I like an embedded DB for those times that I desire a small DB for > small > > > data that is relational. Fo

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Guy Waterval wrote: > Hi Andrew, > Hi all, > > 2013/3/27 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak > > > > > I like an embedded DB for those times that I desire a small DB for small > > data that is relational. For larger data sets, the embedded DB is > > insufficient. > > > > In

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 26/03/13 14:52, Rob Weir a écrit : Hi Rob, > Some other interesting facts, most of which we're already familiar with: > > 1) Microsoft doesn't include Access in their base Office packages. So > on the one hand this means that most Office users don't use a > database, or they do lightweight d

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 26/03/13 00:39, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit : Hi all, > This is hard too guess. The majority of AOO users are Windows users, so > you can asume that the "average user" that tries Base with a MS Office > background, is looking for something like MS Access. I guess this was > what drove Sun to

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Guy Waterval wrote: > Hi Rob, > Hi all, > > 2013/3/26 Rob Weir > >> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> > Well no doubt this may start a rather heated discussion. I started >> looking >> > into the history of the Base component, who is using it

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Guy Waterval
Hi Andrew, Hi all, 2013/3/27 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak > > I like an embedded DB for those times that I desire a small DB for small > data that is relational. For larger data sets, the embedded DB is > insufficient. > Indeed, end users and a lot of little structures could take profit of a little

Re: Questions about sidebar feature

2013-03-26 Thread Yi Xuan Liu
Andre, thanks for your explanation. I'll create test cases according to these files On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Andre Fischer wrote: > On 25.03.2013 08:35, Yi Xuan Liu wrote: > >> hi, all: >> >> I've noticed that a new sidebar build is available on sidebar wiki. I've >> tried to use, and fo

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Guy Waterval
Hi Rob, Hi all, 2013/3/26 Rob Weir > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > Well no doubt this may start a rather heated discussion. I started > looking > > into the history of the Base component, who is using it now (looked into > > Forums, users discussion list), and finally c

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I like an embedded DB for those times that I desire a small DB for small data that is relational. For larger data sets, the embedded DB is insufficient. I see that you specifically ask about an embedded DB, yet some of the answers are related to Base in general. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macr

RE: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB? [ ... ] Some other interesting facts, most of which we're already familiar with: 1) Microsoft doesn't include Access in their base Office packages. So on the one hand this means that most Office

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread janI
On 26 March 2013 18:16, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Jürgen Schmidt > >wrote: > > > > > On 3/26/13 3:35 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Rob Weir > wrote: > > > > > > > >

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Jürgen Schmidt >wrote: > > > On 3/26/13 3:35 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > > > >> My ordered preference would be 1, 3 > > > > > > > > > yeah, g

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > Hi Kay, > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 03:58:06PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: > > Well no doubt this may start a rather heated discussion. > > One of my favorites quotes about Base is from Andreas Säger (villeroy on > the forums): > > "The

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/26/13 5:34 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> On 3/26/13 3:35 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> My ordered preference would be 1, 3 >>> >>> >>> yeah, great *sarcasm*, let's add ano

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 3/26/13 3:35 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > >> My ordered preference would be 1, 3 > > > > > > yeah, great *sarcasm*, let's add another bullet point to a microsoft > > presentation t

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/26/13 4:00 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> My ordered preference would be 1, 3 >> >> >> yeah, great *sarcasm*, let's add another bullet point to a microsoft >> presentation titled

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> My ordered preference would be 1, 3 > > > yeah, great *sarcasm*, let's add another bullet point to a microsoft > presentation titled 'how Microsoft Office is better than > OpenOfffice.o

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/26/13 3:35 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> My ordered preference would be 1, 3 > > > yeah, great *sarcasm*, let's add another bullet point to a microsoft > presentation titled 'how Microsoft Office is better than > OpenOfffice.org" OO.

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > My ordered preference would be 1, 3 yeah, great *sarcasm*, let's add another bullet point to a microsoft presentation titled 'how Microsoft Office is better than OpenOfffice.org" OO.o lacks database? check!" My opinion is that maybe Sun pu

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > Well no doubt this may start a rather heated discussion. I started looking > into the history of the Base component, who is using it now (looked into > Forums, users discussion list), and finally came upon the following FAQ > (edited a LOT just

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
+1 to a survey. Also anecdotal descriptions and links to emails don't help much. Please list the relevant Bugzilla bugs here so those of us that care can look at fixing them. Damjan On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Fred Ollinger wrote: > Perhaps a survey question could be regarding this. How ma

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Fernand Vanrie
Mechtilde Hello, We need base with its easy way to connect to databases like mysql or postgresql especially under other OS's than Windows. we ourselves developed an extension based on this funktion for Law Offices in Germany There is no other free Office Suite which had a databse modul which

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Fernand Vanrie
Ariel , Well no doubt this may start a rather heated discussion. One of my favorites quotes about Base is from Andreas Säger (villeroy on the forums): "The difference between MS Access and Base amounts to several millions of Dollars and more than one decade of development time. Once you got

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/26/13 7:16 AM, Mechtilde wrote: > Hello, > > We need base with its easy way to connect to databases like mysql > or postgresql especially under other OS's than Windows. > > we ourselves developed an extension based on this funktion for Law > Offices in Germany > > There is no other free Of

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-25 Thread Mechtilde
Hello, We need base with its easy way to connect to databases like mysql or postgresql especially under other OS's than Windows. we ourselves developed an extension based on this funktion for Law Offices in Germany There is no other free Office Suite which had a databse modul which you can use t

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-25 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Kay, On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 03:58:06PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: > Well no doubt this may start a rather heated discussion. One of my favorites quotes about Base is from Andreas Säger (villeroy on the forums): "The difference between MS Access and Base amounts to several millions of Dollars a

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-25 Thread Fred Ollinger
Perhaps a survey question could be regarding this. How many people use it? What features do they use? What features do they want. To MS Access users, it could be, feature(s) would get you to switch to AOOO for all DB needs? Fred On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > Hi

Re: Questions about sidebar feature

2013-03-25 Thread Andre Fischer
On 25.03.2013 08:35, Yi Xuan Liu wrote: hi, all: I've noticed that a new sidebar build is available on sidebar wiki. I've tried to use, and found not all sidebar panel is available. Could some one give a list of current available sidebar panel? Then, we could start our test on it. Hi, thanks