Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-26 Thread Kay Schenk
ether [;<). great reference! Thanks. > > > -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti > [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 01:22 To: > dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair > (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

RE: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
t: Monday, January 26, 2015 01:22 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice) On 26/01/2015 RA Stehmann wrote: > Apart from his official duties the PMC chair is seen as the > representative of AOO by the public (Whethe

Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 26, 2015, at 1:21 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 26/01/2015 RA Stehmann wrote: >> Apart from his official duties the PMC chair is seen as the >> representative of AOO by the public (Whether we like it or not.) > > This happens. More rarely than one would think, but still I confirm that I

Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 24/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote: 1) Election a new PMC Chair (the Chair has one, and clearly defined, role: being the liaison officer between the OpenOffice PMC and Apache; he/she can do much more, and I have been doing much more and I'll still continue with the rest; but this is not part of

Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 26/01/2015 RA Stehmann wrote: Apart from his official duties the PMC chair is seen as the representative of AOO by the public (Whether we like it or not.) This happens. More rarely than one would think, but still I confirm that I very occasionally received requests from the press. I simply

Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-26 Thread RA Stehmann
On 25.01.2015 00:20, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Apart from his official duties the PMC chair is seen as the representative of AOO by the public (Whether we like it or not.) So IMO we have to discuss what are our expectations to a PMC chair in that role. As said "critical" points are the relations

Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 25/01/2015 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: It seems there are two factors in presenting candidacy for Chair, anda bigger question. Even if every attempt to rationalize discussions has failed so far, I prefer that we try to focus on one thing at a time for once... We are agreeing that this is the

Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-25 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:26 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice > > Marcus wrote: > > Am 01/24/2015 06:56 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: > >> 4) Exter

RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Yes, #1 and #2 in order. Then we'll deal with ##3-5 (whatever the ordering) -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 00:26 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice [ ... ] Taking

RE: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
X.509 certs used and requested for signed e-mail -- in reply to -- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 15:45 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice) Dennis E. Hamilton

Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-25 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 24, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Andrea proposes election of a new PMC Chair as the #1 short-term priority. > Here are some discussion points. > > 1. TIMING > >Once the AOO Project has selected a candidate to be the AOO PMC >Chair, a motion must be taken to th

Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-25 Thread Mechtilde
Am 25.01.2015 um 09:26 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: > Can we agree on this simplified version, so that we can take the first > steps? > > Regards, > Andrea. > Yes we should start Kind regards -- Mechtilde Stehmann ## Apache OpenOffice.org ## Freie Office Suite für Linux, MacOSX, Windoes ## P

Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-25 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, Andrea Pescetti schrieb: Taking into account the different opinions expressed so far, I'm now seeing a certain agreement on: 1) Election a new PMC Chair ... 2) Internal reorganization: people say what they are going to do to drive the project forward ... Later) Re-alignment between PMC

Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-25 Thread Marcus
Am 01/25/2015 09:26 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Can we agree on this simplified version, so that we can take the first steps? To make it short: Yes. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For

Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-25 Thread Michal Hriň
Sent from Android (non biding) To the #1,2,3. I expressed my thaughts earlier, and once more we cannot do nothing uf we cannot harm asf rules. Majority of people with rights to decide how project will go, are sleepy and disagree with everything. #4 have some ideas on my head , need dictionary :

Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Marcus wrote: Am 01/24/2015 06:56 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: 4) External reorganization: decide how we see OpenOffice as part of a larger ecosystem, so what we can do in terms of collaboration with other projects that are from Apache or from outside Apache. For me this is no thing that can be

Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-24 Thread Marcus
Am 01/24/2015 06:56 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: 4) External reorganization: decide how we see OpenOffice as part of a larger ecosystem, so what we can do in terms of collaboration with other projects that are from Apache or from outside Apache. For me this is no thing that can be solved short

Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-24 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Here are some discussion points. It's good background reading. I recommend that people do read it. But I'd like to move here without too much useless discussion. 1. TIMING The next meeting of the board is at 2014-02-18T18:30Z. A motion to the board woul

[DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Andrea proposes election of a new PMC Chair as the #1 short-term priority. Here are some discussion points. 1. TIMING Once the AOO Project has selected a candidate to be the AOO PMC Chair, a motion must be taken to the ASF Board for their election of the proposed Chair. That rati

Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-24 Thread Kay Schenk
On Jan 24, 2015 11:30 AM, "Andrea Pescetti" wrote: > > Kay Schenk wrote: >> >> On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> >>> 1) Election a new PMC Chair ... >>> >>> 2) Internal reorganization: people say what they are going to do to drive >>> the project forward ... >>> 3) Re-ali

RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ginal Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 11:31 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice Kay Schenk wrote: > On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> 1) Election a new PMC

RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
o:kay.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 10:35 To: OOo Apache Subject: Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: [ ... ] > 1) Election a new PMC Chair [ ... ] > 2) Internal reorganization: people say what they are going

Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-24 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Kay Schenk wrote: On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: 1) Election a new PMC Chair ... 2) Internal reorganization: people say what they are going to do to drive the project forward ... 3) Re-alignment between PMC and active community ... 4) External reorganization: decide how

Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-24 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > I see five short-term (say, something that must be either done or put > towards completion by end of February) priorities for OpenOffice as a > project. They overlap, and we, especially the PMC, need to agree on how to > order them, otherw