Re: Pootle setup for 4.0.1 (Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release)

2013-08-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
janI wrote: Apache 4.x is available (and now even faster) for continued work by all translators Perfect. So we settled on "Apache OpenOffice 4.x" as descriptive name, with "aoo40" as machine name. This is actually very good, so links will be preserved. If anybody want to work on a languag

Re: Pootle setup for 4.0.1 (Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release)

2013-08-09 Thread janI
On 9 August 2013 09:17, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 8/8/13 4:33 PM, janI wrote: > > On 8 August 2013 15:28, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > > >> On 8/8/13 3:06 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >>> On 07/08/2013 janI wrote: > On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > We have to convert them

Re: Pootle setup for 4.0.1 (Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release)

2013-08-09 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/8/13 4:33 PM, janI wrote: > On 8 August 2013 15:28, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> On 8/8/13 3:06 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> On 07/08/2013 janI wrote: On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > We have to convert them all in po, merge > against the latest templates from 4.0

Re: Pootle setup for 4.0.1 (Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release)

2013-08-08 Thread janI
On 8 August 2013 15:28, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 8/8/13 3:06 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > On 07/08/2013 janI wrote: > >> On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >>> We have to convert them all in po, merge > >>> against the latest templates from 4.0 and safe them in a secure > >>> pla

Re: Pootle setup for 4.0.1 (Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release)

2013-08-08 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/8/13 3:06 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 07/08/2013 janI wrote: >> On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >>> We have to convert them all in po, merge >>> against the latest templates from 4.0 and safe them in a secure >>> place/project and use new languages on demand >> No problem, I

Pootle setup for 4.0.1 (Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release)

2013-08-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 07/08/2013 janI wrote: On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: We have to convert them all in po, merge against the latest templates from 4.0 and safe them in a secure place/project and use new languages on demand No problem, I would have preferred another way, but this is less work no

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-08 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/8/13 10:15 AM, janI wrote: > On 8 August 2013 08:06, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> On 8/7/13 8:44 PM, janI wrote: >>> On 7 August 2013 16:44, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >>> On 8/7/13 2:09 PM, janI wrote: > On 7 August 2013 14:04, sebb wrote: > >> On 7 August 2013 12:55, Jürgen Sch

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-08 Thread janI
On 8 August 2013 08:06, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 8/7/13 8:44 PM, janI wrote: > > On 7 August 2013 16:44, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > > >> On 8/7/13 2:09 PM, janI wrote: > >>> On 7 August 2013 14:04, sebb wrote: > >>> > On 7 August 2013 12:55, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > On 8/7/13 1:51 P

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-07 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/7/13 8:44 PM, janI wrote: > On 7 August 2013 16:44, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> On 8/7/13 2:09 PM, janI wrote: >>> On 7 August 2013 14:04, sebb wrote: >>> On 7 August 2013 12:55, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 8/7/13 1:51 PM, janI wrote: >> On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt w

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-07 Thread janI
On 7 August 2013 16:44, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 8/7/13 2:09 PM, janI wrote: > > On 7 August 2013 14:04, sebb wrote: > > > >> On 7 August 2013 12:55, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >>> On 8/7/13 1:51 PM, janI wrote: > On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > > On 8/7/13 11:47

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-07 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/7/13 2:09 PM, janI wrote: > On 7 August 2013 14:04, sebb wrote: > >> On 7 August 2013 12:55, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >>> On 8/7/13 1:51 PM, janI wrote: On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 8/7/13 11:47 AM, janI wrote: >> On 7 August 2013 11:28, Jürgen Schmidt

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-07 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/7/13 2:04 PM, janI wrote: > On 7 August 2013 13:55, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> On 8/7/13 1:51 PM, janI wrote: >>> On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >>> On 8/7/13 11:47 AM, janI wrote: > On 7 August 2013 11:28, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> On 8/6/13 6:42 PM, janI

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-07 Thread janI
On 7 August 2013 14:04, sebb wrote: > On 7 August 2013 12:55, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > On 8/7/13 1:51 PM, janI wrote: > >> On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> > >>> On 8/7/13 11:47 AM, janI wrote: > On 7 August 2013 11:28, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > > On 8/6/13 6:4

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-07 Thread sebb
On 7 August 2013 12:55, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 8/7/13 1:51 PM, janI wrote: >> On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >> >>> On 8/7/13 11:47 AM, janI wrote: On 7 August 2013 11:28, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 8/6/13 6:42 PM, janI wrote: >> On 6 August 2013 17:15, Andre

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-07 Thread janI
On 7 August 2013 13:55, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 8/7/13 1:51 PM, janI wrote: > > On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > > >> On 8/7/13 11:47 AM, janI wrote: > >>> On 7 August 2013 11:28, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >>> > On 8/6/13 6:42 PM, janI wrote: > > On 6 August 2013 17:1

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-07 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/7/13 1:51 PM, janI wrote: > On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> On 8/7/13 11:47 AM, janI wrote: >>> On 7 August 2013 11:28, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >>> On 8/6/13 6:42 PM, janI wrote: > On 6 August 2013 17:15, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >> Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-07 Thread janI
On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 8/7/13 11:47 AM, janI wrote: > > On 7 August 2013 11:28, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > > >> On 8/6/13 6:42 PM, janI wrote: > >>> On 6 August 2013 17:15, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >>> > Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > > On 8/6/13 3:05 PM, And

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-07 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/7/13 11:47 AM, janI wrote: > On 7 August 2013 11:28, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> On 8/6/13 6:42 PM, janI wrote: >>> On 6 August 2013 17:15, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 8/6/13 3:05 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >> It is important that we don't fa

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-07 Thread janI
On 7 August 2013 11:28, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 8/6/13 6:42 PM, janI wrote: > > On 6 August 2013 17:15, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > > >> Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> > >>> On 8/6/13 3:05 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >>> > It is important that we don't fall in the "release and forget" trap,

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-07 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/6/13 6:42 PM, janI wrote: > On 6 August 2013 17:15, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >> Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >> >>> On 8/6/13 3:05 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> It is important that we don't fall in the "release and forget" trap, i.e., "this bug was already known when 4.0 was released, s

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-06 Thread janI
On 6 August 2013 17:15, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> On 8/6/13 3:05 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> >>> It is important that we don't fall in the "release and forget" trap, >>> i.e., "this bug was already known when 4.0 was released, so it doesn't >>> need to be evaluated aga

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 8/6/13 3:05 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: It is important that we don't fall in the "release and forget" trap, i.e., "this bug was already known when 4.0 was released, so it doesn't need to be evaluated again for 4.0.1". At least, we should re-evaluate the old proposed bloc

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-06 Thread janI
On 6 August 2013 15:05, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Rob Weir wrote: > >> a 4.0.1 release in the next few weeks to address the specific >> high-urgency issues? [...] >> > > Good plan. I'm adding some remarks below, to see the release not only from > the users point of view, but from the community pe

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-06 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 8/6/13 3:05 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> Rob Weir wrote: >>> a 4.0.1 release in the next few weeks to address the specific >>> high-urgency issues? [...] >> >> Good plan. I'm adding some remarks below, to see the release not only >> from

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-06 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/6/13 3:05 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Rob Weir wrote: >> a 4.0.1 release in the next few weeks to address the specific >> high-urgency issues? [...] > > Good plan. I'm adding some remarks below, to see the release not only > from the users point of view, but from the community perspective t

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: a 4.0.1 release in the next few weeks to address the specific high-urgency issues? [...] Good plan. I'm adding some remarks below, to see the release not only from the users point of view, but from the community perspective too. 3) Use the "release blocker" flag to propose

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-06 Thread sebb
On 6 August 2013 06:51, O.Felka wrote: > Am 05.08.2013 23:34, schrieb David Gerard: > >> On 5 August 2013 22:32, janI wrote: >> >>> When I consider what I hear in the "real" world, I would prefer a fast >>> release, solving the most important issues. We always have the >>> possibility >>> to make

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-05 Thread O.Felka
Am 05.08.2013 23:34, schrieb David Gerard: On 5 August 2013 22:32, janI wrote: When I consider what I hear in the "real" world, I would prefer a fast release, solving the most important issues. We always have the possibility to make a 4.02 if really needed. x.0.x releases monthly are the wa

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:34 PM, David Gerard wrote: > > On 5 August 2013 22:32, janI wrote: > > > >> When I consider what I hear in the "real" world, I would prefer a fast > >> release, solving the most important issues. We always have the > pos

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:34 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 5 August 2013 22:32, janI wrote: > >> When I consider what I hear in the "real" world, I would prefer a fast >> release, solving the most important issues. We always have the possibility >> to make a 4.02 if really needed. > > > x.0.x relea

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 August 2013 22:32, janI wrote: > When I consider what I hear in the "real" world, I would prefer a fast > release, solving the most important issues. We always have the possibility > to make a 4.02 if really needed. x.0.x releases monthly are the way to go. I think LibreOffice really got t

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-05 Thread janI
On 5 August 2013 21:55, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > > Am 08/05/2013 08:16 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: > > > >> It looks like some regressions slipped through into AOO 4.0.0, and I'd > >> hate to wait until 4.1 to see them fixed. So I wonder if we can aim >

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > It looks like some regressions slipped through into AOO 4.0.0, and I'd > hate to wait until 4.1 to see them fixed. So I wonder if we can aim > for a 4.0.1 release in the next few weeks to address the specific > high-urgency issues? We could al

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 08/05/2013 08:16 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: > >> It looks like some regressions slipped through into AOO 4.0.0, and I'd >> hate to wait until 4.1 to see them fixed. So I wonder if we can aim >> for a 4.0.1 release in the next few weeks to addres

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/05/2013 08:16 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: It looks like some regressions slipped through into AOO 4.0.0, and I'd hate to wait until 4.1 to see them fixed. So I wonder if we can aim for a 4.0.1 release in the next few weeks to address the specific high-urgency issues? We could also use this opp

Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-05 Thread Hagar Delest
Top posting. +1. The quality of 4.0 is beyond what we used to see in the past. There are many users rather disappointed in the forum, especially Calc users. Many have to downgrade. The sooner we correct that, the better, especially if we can do that before September. Hagar Le 05/08/2013 20

Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release

2013-08-05 Thread Rob Weir
It looks like some regressions slipped through into AOO 4.0.0, and I'd hate to wait until 4.1 to see them fixed. So I wonder if we can aim for a 4.0.1 release in the next few weeks to address the specific high-urgency issues? We could also use this opportunity to roll in whatever new translation