Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-29 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Damjan, Am 29.03.24 um 11:17 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 5:46 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Dave, Am 17.03.24 um 18:01 schrieb Dave Fisher: Hi Damjan, I know it “opens a big can of worms” and is another issue, but upgrading to a newer OpenSSL for Trunk and maybe 4.

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-29 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 5:46 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Am 17.03.24 um 18:01 schrieb Dave Fisher: > > Hi Damjan, > > > > I know it “opens a big can of worms” and is another issue, but upgrading > to a newer OpenSSL for Trunk and maybe 4.2 would be a very good thing, > > We need to u

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-22 Thread Matthias Seidel
x/prj When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by running:     build --from oox --- Regards,    Matthias Am 17.03.24 um 01:55 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: Please check further up in the log, or run "build" in main/oox again. That &quo

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-19 Thread Matthias Seidel
oox need(s) to be rebuilt Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /cygdrive/c/Source/openoffice/main/oox/prj When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by running:     build --from oox --- Regards,  

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-18 Thread Arrigo Marchiori
Hello Damjan, all, On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 06:10:01AM +, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > That's great. Thank you for testing. > > My own tests also show it no longer crashes, both the Standard and Agile > encryption are working now :). Great job! -- Arrigo -

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-18 Thread Matthias Seidel
ke: Error code 2, while making 'all' 1 module(s): oox need(s) to be rebuilt Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /cygdrive/c/Source/openoffice/main/oox/prj When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by running: b

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-17 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
> >>>>>> error > >>>>>> C2039: 'data' : is not a member of 'std::vector<_Ty>' > >>>>>>with > >>>>>>[ > >>>>>>_Ty=sal_uInt8 > >>>>

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-17 Thread Matthias Seidel
fice/main/oox/prj When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by running:    build --from oox --- Regards,   Matthias Am 17.03.24 um 01:55 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: Please check further up in the log, or run "build" in main/oox again. That

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-17 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Dave, Am 17.03.24 um 18:01 schrieb Dave Fisher: Hi Damjan, I know it “opens a big can of worms” and is another issue, but upgrading to a newer OpenSSL for Trunk and maybe 4.2 would be a very good thing, We need to update a lot of things, including openSSL and MSVC... But we should first

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-17 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Damjan, I know it “opens a big can of worms” and is another issue, but upgrading to a newer OpenSSL for Trunk and maybe 4.2 would be a very good thing, Best, Dave > On Mar 17, 2024, at 4:23 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > Also > that ancient OpenSSL version we use internally, 1.0.x, uses >

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-17 Thread Matthias Seidel
ebuilt Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /cygdrive/c/Source/openoffice/main/oox/prj When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by running: build --from oox --- Regards, Matthias Am 17.03.24 um 01:55 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: Please check f

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-17 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
gt;> _Ty=sal_uInt8 > >>> ] > >>> c:/Source/openoffice/main/oox/source/core/encryption.cxx(888) : error > >>> C2039: 'data' : is not a member of 'std::vector<_Ty>' > >>> with > >&g

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-17 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
uInt8 > >>> ] > >>> c:/Source/openoffice/main/oox/source/core/encryption.cxx(888) : error > >>> C2039: 'data' : is not a member of 'std::vector<_Ty>' > >>> with > >>> [ > >>>

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-17 Thread Matthias Seidel
27;all' 1 module(s):   oox need(s) to be rebuilt Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /cygdrive/c/Source/openoffice/main/oox/prj When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by running:   build --from oox --- Regards, Matthia

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-17 Thread Matthias Seidel
ource/openoffice/main/oox/prj When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by running: build --from oox --- Regards, Matthias Am 17.03.24 um 01:55 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: Please check further up in the log, or run "build" in main/oox aga

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-17 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
/openoffice/main/solver/450/ > wntmsci12.pro/workdir/CxxObject/oox/source/core/encryption.o', > needed by > '/cygdrive/c/Source/openoffice/main/solver/450/ > wntmsci12.pro/workdir/LinkTarget/Library/ioox.lib'. > Stop. > dmake: Error code 2, while making 'all' >

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-17 Thread Matthias Seidel
lt Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /cygdrive/c/Source/openoffice/main/oox/prj When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by running:     build --from oox --- Regards,    Matthias Am 17.03.24 um 01:55 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: Please

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-16 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
the errors in that module you can resume the build > by running: > > build --from oox > > Am 16.03.24 um 04:49 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: > > Hi > > > > Bug 118236 with 7 votes, the inability to open password-protected > > (encrypted) OOXML files from M

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-16 Thread Matthias Seidel
e you can resume the build by running:     build --from oox Am 16.03.24 um 04:49 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: Hi Bug 118236 with 7 votes, the inability to open password-protected (encrypted) OOXML files from MS Office 2010+, is now fixed in trunk :-) ---snip--- commit 506fa58b1970084a0caacb50b

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-16 Thread Marcus
: Hi Bug 118236 with 7 votes, the inability to open password-protected (encrypted) OOXML files from MS Office 2010+, is now fixed in trunk :-) ---snip--- commit 506fa58b1970084a0caacb50b3a805e469be4756 (HEAD -> trunk, origin/trunk, origin/HEAD) Author: Damjan Jovanovic Date:   Sat Mar 2 18:47

Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-16 Thread Matthias Seidel
(encrypted) OOXML files from MS Office 2010+, is now fixed in trunk :-) ---snip--- commit 506fa58b1970084a0caacb50b3a805e469be4756 (HEAD -> trunk, origin/trunk, origin/HEAD) Author: Damjan Jovanovic Date: Sat Mar 2 18:47:05 2024 +0200 Implement the (MS Office 2010+) OOXML "Agile en

MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

2024-03-15 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Hi Bug 118236 with 7 votes, the inability to open password-protected (encrypted) OOXML files from MS Office 2010+, is now fixed in trunk :-) ---snip--- commit 506fa58b1970084a0caacb50b3a805e469be4756 (HEAD -> trunk, origin/trunk, origin/HEAD) Author: Damjan Jovanovic Date: Sat Mar 2 18:47

Re: poi-filter branch with initial OOXML/.xlsx export filter

2020-10-17 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Oct 17, 2020, at 1:00 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > Hi > > I've put together my previous work on an OOXML export filter for > spreadsheets, and pushed it into a branch called poi-filter. > > So far it builds successfully, gets packaged, appears in the &q

Re: poi-filter branch with initial OOXML/.xlsx export filter

2020-10-17 Thread Carl Marcum
Hi Damjan, On 10/17/20 4:00 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: Hi I've put together my previous work on an OOXML export filter for spreadsheets, and pushed it into a branch called poi-filter. So far it builds successfully, gets packaged, appears in the "Save" dialog, loads, has all th

poi-filter branch with initial OOXML/.xlsx export filter

2020-10-17 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Hi I've put together my previous work on an OOXML export filter for spreadsheets, and pushed it into a branch called poi-filter. So far it builds successfully, gets packaged, appears in the "Save" dialog, loads, has all the right methods called, and gets to traversing and savi

ISO/IEC 29500 OOXML Standards (was RE: Apache POI, .xlsx export filter ...)

2015-12-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The ISO Standards for OOXML are free to the public. There is a list of all such free standards, but you have to scan it for the OOXML ones (by their ISO/IEC 29500 numbers) near the end of the list at <http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/index.html>. The easiest way

Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-25 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] > I believe a decision like the one in Berlin is always political > motivated. See for example the upcoming discussion about the > same topic > in Munich after changes in the administration. You're absolutely right, but what can we do about

RE: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
-Original Message- From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [mailto:and...@pitonyak.org] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 22:23 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?) On 10/24/2014 08:50 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > be

RE: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
-Original Message- From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [mailto:and...@pitonyak.org] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 22:26 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?) Do you know off hand if this is through OLE or some other

Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-24 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
: To be clear, I can put a complete Word Document (as a binary blob) inside of an ODF Text document too. I just don't know if that particular avenue is what was taken as a smoking gun about OOXML or not. I can put a complete ODF Text document (as a binary blob) inside of an OOXML .docx too.

Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-24 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 10/24/2014 08:50 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: below. -Original Message- From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [mailto:and...@pitonyak.org] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 17:27 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Spam (9.566):Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML

RE: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
To be clear, I can put a complete Word Document (as a binary blob) inside of an ODF Text document too. I just don't know if that particular avenue is what was taken as a smoking gun about OOXML or not. I can put a complete ODF Text document (as a binary blob) inside of an OOXML .doc

Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
below. -Original Message- From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [mailto:and...@pitonyak.org] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 17:27 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Spam (9.566):Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?) On 10/24/2014 11:42 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton

Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-24 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 10/24/2014 11:42 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: below. -Original Message- From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [mailto:and...@pitonyak.org] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 06:18 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?) On

RE: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
below. -Original Message- From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [mailto:and...@pitonyak.org] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 06:18 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?) On 10/24/2014 01:54 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > But wh

Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-24 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 10/24/2014 01:54 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: But where is the problem? Either OOXML *is* ISO standard or is not ISO-standard. If the problem is however that MS is 'meddling' in the standard, then it is a political issue that requires policy responses - not a question of software d

Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > >> From: Andreas Säger [mailto:saege...@t-online.de] > >> Being a customer, I do see things differently. >> Every OOXML file is a vote against ODF. > > theoretically correct, but practically? > &

Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-24 Thread Andreas Säger
don't want to fall behind ... whatever bleeding edge [contradiction in itself]. Oh, of course they need MS Office for security reasons ... WTF? A full featured OOXML suite exists. It costs some money and it should always be used when OOXML is required. Your business opportunities are the same as

Re: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-24 Thread FR web forum
>but there is no company within: >http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html >that wants to do the work. Maybe see with IBM: http://www-03.ibm.com/software/products/en/ibm-support-for-apache-openoffice/ - To unsubscribe,

Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-24 Thread RA Stehmann
On 24.10.2014 11:14, Michal Hriň wrote: > > > Dňa 24.10.2014 o 09:59 Jürgen Schmidt napísal(a): >> On 24/10/14 07:54, Jörg Schmidt wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>>> From: Andreas Säger [mailto:saege...@t-online.de] >>> >>>> Being a cust

Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-24 Thread Michal Hriň
Dňa 24.10.2014 o 09:59 Jürgen Schmidt napísal(a): On 24/10/14 07:54, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, From: Andreas Säger [mailto:saege...@t-online.de] Being a customer, I do see things differently. Every OOXML file is a vote against ODF. theoretically correct, but practically? One day in

Re: OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-24 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 24/10/14 07:54, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > >> From: Andreas Säger [mailto:saege...@t-online.de] > >> Being a customer, I do see things differently. >> Every OOXML file is a vote against ODF. > > theoretically correct, but practically? > >&g

Re: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] > no it means the benefit of the patches is so minimal that a rewrite is > probably cheaper and easier. For the example for 1 use case we have > integrated we spend a lot of time to understand the patch and realize > that the implementation ad

OpenOffice lost again 6000 users (was: Improved OOXML support?)

2014-10-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, > From: Andreas Säger [mailto:saege...@t-online.de] > Being a customer, I do see things differently. > Every OOXML file is a vote against ODF. theoretically correct, but practically? > One day in future LO will save ODF as a secondary > option. Possible. But where

Re: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-23 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 23/10/14 07:02, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > >> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:13 PM >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: RE: Improved OOXML support? >> >> With regard to the quotation f

Re: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-23 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 23.10.2014 um 06:47 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > > I think it's good that we live in a free society and customers have the right > to > see things differently. > Being a customer, I do see things differently. Every OOXML file is a vote against ODF. One day in future L

Re: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-22 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 11:13 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: Improved OOXML support? > > With regard to the quotation from me, yes, it is possible to > find funding for improveme

Re: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-22 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Andreas Säger [mailto:saege...@t-online.de] > > I find it really strange that it seems impossible to find > companies that are > > willing to integrate corresponding filter in AOO, as a > normal commercial support. > > > > If I were in need of an

Re: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-22 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 22.10.2014 um 07:03 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > > I find it really strange that it seems impossible to find companies that are > willing to integrate corresponding filter in AOO, as a normal commercial > support. > If I were in need of an OOXML suite, I would pay for the real

RE: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
improved OOXML support was funded by an organization. You've seen Jürgen Schmidt's response on the difficulty there has been integrating that code into Apache OpenOffice. I don't doubt his appraisal. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Jörg Schmidt [mailto:joe...@j-m-sc

Re: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-22 Thread Jörg Schmidt
n figure out a series of files, > but there will always be something that is not completely > compatible. This is absolutely not a problem, the compatibility already provides the LibreOffice would be enough (for now). > I suspect that a bigger detriment to someone building > commerc

RE: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
inline -Original Message- From: BRM [mailto:bm_witn...@yahoo.com.INVALID] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 08:12 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Improved OOXML support? On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:03 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > From: BRM [mailto:bm_w

Re: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-22 Thread BRM
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:03 AM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > From: BRM [mailto:bm_witn...@yahoo.com.INVALID] > > Unfortunately that will always be the state of OOXML > > integration for anyone other than Microsoft since OOXML is a > > poorly defined standard that

Re: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-21 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: BRM [mailto:bm_witn...@yahoo.com.INVALID] > Unfortunately that will always be the state of OOXML > integration for anyone other than Microsoft since OOXML is a > poorly defined standard that relies on many binary extensions > that are not published. Kind of like the

Re: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-21 Thread Jürgen Lange
er time on this. This is bad news for AOO, because it will lose more users. I myself had tried in recent weeks to paid support for OOXML filter but unfortunately could not find one. Unfortunately that will always be the state of OOXML integration for anyone other than Microsoft since OOXML i

Re: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-21 Thread BRM
t; this. > This is bad news for AOO, because it will lose more users. > I myself had tried in recent weeks to paid support for OOXML filter but > unfortunately could not find one. > Unfortunately that will always be the state of OOXML integration for anyone other than Microsoft since OO

Re: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-21 Thread Jörg Schmidt
rged in LO). > The patches were incomplete and the implementation not > complete at all. > We decided for us (some developer) that we don't spend further time on > this. This is bad news for AOO, because it will lose more users. I myself had tried in recent weeks to paid support

Re: Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 21/10/14 08:34, Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know when the integration of the extended OOXML filter > functionality will be completed in AOO? > > I mean the enhancements that have been created within a project of the OSBA: > http://www.osb-alliance.de

Improved OOXML support?

2014-10-20 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, Does anyone know when the integration of the extended OOXML filter functionality will be completed in AOO? I mean the enhancements that have been created within a project of the OSBA: http://www.osb-alliance.de/en/working-groups/wg-office-interoperability/project-1-by-osb-alliance

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-17 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 16/08/2014 Peter Kelly wrote: On 16 Aug 2014, at 12:55 pm, Andrea Pescetti wrote: I've also been fixing (or breaking, who knows!) some documentation on my clone (my "fork" as Github likes to call it) but I'll submit a pull request only when basic things work. I've just merged in your changes

RE: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
backup information for the DChanges 2014 workshop next month. - Dennis PS: Roundtripping between OOXML and HTML is something that Microsoft put considerable effort into. Some found the resulting HTML (pre-HTML5) rather nauseous, but it is remarkably presentation-preserving as far as it goes.

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-16 Thread Peter Kelly
-- Dennis E. Hamilton >dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430 >https://keybase.io/orcmid PGP F96E 89FF D456 628A >X.509 certs used and requested for signed e-mail > > > > -Original Message- > From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] > Sent: Sa

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-16 Thread jan i
l Message- > From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 01:10 > To: dev > Subject: Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation > > On 16 August 2014 03:50, Peter Kelly wrote: > > [ ... ] > > Now, onto the fix: > > > >

RE: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430 https://keybase.io/orcmid PGP F96E 89FF D456 628A X.509 certs used and requested for signed e-mail -Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 01:10 To: dev Subject: Re: Doc

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-16 Thread Peter Kelly
On 16 Aug 2014, at 12:55 pm, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > I've also been fixing (or breaking, who knows!) some documentation on my > clone (my "fork" as Github likes to call it) but I'll submit a pull request > only when basic things work. I've just merged in your changes and also invited you as a

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-16 Thread jan i
On 16 August 2014 03:50, Peter Kelly wrote: > On 16 Aug 2014, at 5:26 am, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > On 15/08/2014 Peter Kelly wrote: > > Those of you interested in OOXML may want to have a look at my own > implementation of (a subset of) the spec, which is part of a librar

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
ather badly (invalid OOXML output in the second conversion, ZIP container clearly missing files and possible breaking order) in a simple test I did with a 1-page docx file. I'm not surprised this is the first issue to come up :$ There's a *lot* of knowledge I need to document for others; que

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-15 Thread Peter Kelly
On 16 Aug 2014, at 5:26 am, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Does this mean that > $ dfutil/dfutil filename.docx filename.html > $ dfutil/dfutil filename.html filename2.docx > should produce a "filename2.docx" that is quite similar to "filename.docx"? > It is failing

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-15 Thread Peter Kelly
On 16 Aug 2014, at 5:26 am, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 15/08/2014 Peter Kelly wrote: >> Those of you interested in OOXML may want to have a look at my own >> implementation of (a subset of) the spec, which is part of a library >> I've just made available as ope

Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 15/08/2014 Peter Kelly wrote: Those of you interested in OOXML may want to have a look at my own implementation of (a subset of) the spec, which is part of a library I've just made available as open source (license is ASLv2): https://github.com/uxproductivity/DocFormats It&#

DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

2014-08-14 Thread Peter Kelly
Those of you interested in OOXML may want to have a look at my own implementation of (a subset of) the spec, which is part of a library I've just made available as open source (license is ASLv2): https://github.com/uxproductivity/DocFormats I started working on this around two years a

Patches for enhancing traditional Chinese(ZH-TW) numbering conversion in ww8,rtf,ooxml filters

2014-08-14 Thread Hung Mark
Recently I looked into issues where Chinese numbering in doc / docx /rtf were missed when opening the file in OpenOffice. Fortunately, I found the way to fix them. ( as attached ) I tried to key in an issue and submit my patch. ( https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125400) I don't kn

Re: Ongoing OOXML development and "implementation defined" items.

2014-08-11 Thread jan i
Hi. Thanks to a (once again) good tip from andre, I found out why I could not see the OOXML sources and control the code. Be carefull when you upgrade svn client to newest, I had to do a fallback before "svn up" would work correctly. rgds jan I. On 4 August 2014 21:49, ja

Re: OOXML documentation

2014-08-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 24/07/2014 Peter Kelly wrote: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/OOXML The new content is that linked to from the first section, currently limited to a description of the packaging format, extensibility features, and a brief introduction to WordProcessingML. This is just the beginning, and

Re: Ongoing OOXML development and "implementation defined" items.

2014-08-04 Thread jan i
On 4 August 2014 18:23, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Jan asks good questions below. > > I have a comment with regard to (3) "Will the OOXML implementation allow > round-trip of our documents without loss of information?" > > It strikes me that there are OOXML im

RE: Ongoing OOXML development and "implementation defined" items.

2014-08-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Jan asks good questions below. I have a comment with regard to (3) "Will the OOXML implementation allow round-trip of our documents without loss of information?" It strikes me that there are OOXML import and export capabilities already in Apache OpenOffice and a better question may

RE: OOXML

2014-08-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
introduced in the ODF specification but which are not modelled in the Relax NG Schema (beyond saying they have string values, for example). This sort of thing also happens rather heavily in OOXML, where communication among parts uses a unique cross-part relationship model. There are also many

Ongoing OOXML development and "implementation defined" items.

2014-08-04 Thread jan i
w will the "implementation defined" items, be documented, they are likely to change over time, to its problaly a poing where maintenance is needed, and thus a higher demand on documentation ? 3) Will the OOXML implementation allow round-trip of our documents without loss of information ?

Re: OOXML

2014-08-04 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 08/03/2014 12:50 PM, Peter Kelly wrote: features that are supported in OOXML but not ODF, e.g. table styles. If AOO does not support Table Styles and a particular file format does not, the biggest problem is that you lose table styles when you load, edit

Re: OOXML

2014-08-04 Thread Peter Kelly
On 4 Aug 2014, at 12:16 am, jan i wrote: > By painfull experience, I found out that our internal (memory) structure is > a superset of mixed ODF and pre-odf items. I dont think you can have a pure > odf/OOXML memory structure, you need internal pointers as well (like > start/fi

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 08/03/2014 12:50 PM, Peter Kelly wrote: On 3 Aug 2014, at 6:52 pm, Regina Henschel <mailto:rb.hensc...@t-online.de>> wrote: The second option has the advantage that it would be easier to cater for features that are supported in OOXML but not ODF, e.g. table styles. However

RE: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 13:05 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: RE: OOXML [ ... ] There are some tricky cases, including - Changes that overlap/conflict with tracked changes but tracked changes are not updated/preserved properly - Accessibili

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread jan i
sed and requested for signed e-mail > > > > > -Original Message- > From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] > Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 00:57 > To: dev; Dennis Hamilton > Subject: Re: OOXML > > On 2 August 2014 22:31, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: > > [ ... ]

RE: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
org] Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 00:57 To: dev; Dennis Hamilton Subject: Re: OOXML On 2 August 2014 22:31, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > [ ... ] There is no strict minimum Conforming OpenDocument > Consumer. A consumer must not object to anything in the document file that > conforms to the O

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread jan i
at the document. > > > Interesting. > > Given this is the case, what would you suggest would be the best strategy > for supporting OOXML? > > 1) Two-way conversion between OOXML and ODF, with OpenOffice then dealing > solely with the file as ODF (not even being aware

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
representation of the document? Or are the runtime data structures used >> different to the XML trees that one finds in an ODF package? > > No, OpenOffice has a very different in-memory representation than the ODF > format. And the API is a third version of looking at the document.

Change tracking & versioning (was Re: OOXML)

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Aug 2014, at 3:05 am, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > In line with the sketch that Peter Kelley provides below, I am personally > very sympathetic to the idea of having an internal model that can tolerate > difference in format between input and output while preserving in the output > everyth

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Peter, Peter Kelly schrieb: On 3 Aug 2014, at 1:57 am, jan i mailto:j...@apache.org>> wrote: I too am on peter fast rolling waggon :-) but I am also confused. @peter maybe you could explain a couple of things, for non-document specialists: 1) Following your thought, with biderectional edi

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
On 3 Aug 2014, at 3:05 am, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > In line with the sketch that Peter Kelley provides below, I am personally > very sympathetic to the idea of having an internal model that can tolerate > difference in format between input and output while preserving in the output > everyth

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread Peter Kelly
destroy something ;) Having said that though, there are a couple of provisions for this. One is simply the ability to include extra files in the package, labeled with a particular namespace. Each OOXML package contains a "relationship graph", which is a separate data structure from th

Re: OOXML

2014-08-03 Thread jan i
id PGP F96E 89FF D456 628A > X.509 certs used and requested for signed e-mail > > > > -Original Message- > From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 11:58 > To: dev; Dennis Hamilton > Subject: Re: OOXML > > On 2 August 201

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Guy Waterval
on't like it > when I have to use Word. > > > On 08/02/2014 10:24 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> The Support that is done is to receieve OOXML not to produce them, the >> discussion issue would be to support legacy formats like .doc or .xls. >> >> I still

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
orado wrote: The Support that is done is to receieve OOXML not to produce them, the discussion issue would be to support legacy formats like .doc or .xls. I still dont see a point to generate OOXML and most people dont care as long as they can send in office native formats. I never heard someone s

RE: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
-- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 11:58 To: dev; Dennis Hamilton Subject: Re: OOXML On 2 August 2014 20:27, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > s below. > > > -Original Message- > From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, Augu

RE: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
X.509 certs used and requested for signed e-mail From: Peter Kelly [mailto:kelly...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 09:43 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: OOXML On 2 Aug 2014, at 9:24 pm, Alexandro Colorado wrote: The Support that is done is to receieve OOXML not to pr

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread jan i
On 2 August 2014 20:27, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > s below. > > > -Original Message- > From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] > Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 08:57 > To: dev > Subject: Re: OOXML > > On 2 August 2014 17:06, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >

RE: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
s below. -Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 08:57 To: dev Subject: Re: OOXML On 2 August 2014 17:06, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > > > On 2014-08-02, at 10:24, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > > The Support that i

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Peter Kelly
On 2 Aug 2014, at 9:24 pm, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > The Support that is done is to receieve OOXML not to produce them, the > discussion issue would be to support legacy formats like .doc or .xls. > > I still dont see a point to generate OOXML and most people dont care > as l

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread jan i
On 2 August 2014 17:06, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > > > On 2014-08-02, at 10:24, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > > The Support that is done is to receieve OOXML not to produce them, the > > discussion issue would be to support legacy formats like .doc or .xls. >

Re: OOXML

2014-08-02 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 2014-08-02, at 10:24, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > The Support that is done is to receieve OOXML not to produce them, the > discussion issue would be to support legacy formats like .doc or .xls. > > I still dont see a point to generate OOXML and most people dont care

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