OK, I get it.  There is cross-talk between this dev-openoffice list and 
general-incubator involving two messages there,

1. A general-incubator post from you, replying to a message from Peter Kelley 
about his DocFormats document-conversion project and bringing Peter's request 
to the attention of general-incubator, at
<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201408.mbox/%3CCAK2iWdTS%2BKUWWZ%2BBOAnsNW4PiE37OLJA%3Dx%2B5az%3DAdAviiS_47A%40mail.gmail.com%3E>.

2. An observation from Andrea that is essentially good wishes.

I find it an interesting leap from DocFormats to OpenOffice for tablets and 
look forward to seeing the incubator proposal.

I am definitely interested in the "student proposal, to get a compliance sheet 
made
for products that offer OXML and/or odf" that you mention.

Interoperability in interchange among document formats is a driving issue for 
me.  I look forward to more about that.  There has been significant effort in 
this area, although it does not seem to have made much impact and is generally 
little-known.  The OASIS effort on ODF Interoperability and Conformance (OIC 
TC) folded its tent in November 2013.  (On that one, I am an unindicted 
co-conspirator.)

I will see what references I can dig up after I submit updated pre-conference 
versions of some papers due this weekend, 
<https://sites.google.com/site/dchanges14/program>.  Information about those 
interop/conversion efforts would also be good backup information for the 
DChanges 2014 workshop next month.

 - Dennis

PS: Roundtripping between OOXML and HTML is something that Microsoft put 
considerable effort into.  Some found the resulting HTML (pre-HTML5) rather 
nauseous, but it is remarkably presentation-preserving as far as it goes. It 
might be informative to look into how well AOO does the same between ODF and 
[X]HTML as a calibration.  One could also look at the Office Web Apps, that 
manifest OOXML documents via editable web-page interfaces as a descendant.  
These seem to be tied to the way that some Phone and Tablet Microsoft Office 
applications are tied to cloud-stored documents.


-----Original Message-----
From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] 
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 09:45
To: Dennis Hamilton
Cc: dev; jan iversen
Subject: Re: DocFormats - Open source OOXML implementation

On 16 August 2014 18:38, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote:

> I don't have any skin in this game.
>
> Yet I am baffled about where this work is going on and what Apache Project
> it relates to.  Is there an incubator proposal for Apache DocFormats on its
> way?
>
Yes there is a proposal on its way, look at general-incubator approx. the
last 3 days. Right now it is not decided who should sponsor this project.

[ ... ]

The intention is clearly to at least have a close cooperation with these
projects. But docFormats aims at a bit more (like e.g. being openoffice on
tablets).

I am right now working on student proposal, to get a compliance sheet made
for products that offer OXML and/or odf. MAybe that would be something you
would want to help out with.


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