Re: Please welcome Josh Tynjala as Apache Flex Committer

2015-05-15 Thread piotrz
Welcome on board Josh! Good luck! :) Piotr - Apache Flex PMC piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/Please-welcome-Josh-Tynjala-as-Apache-Flex-Committer-tp46618p46620.html Sent from the Apache Flex Development mailin

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Alex Harui
On 5/15/15, 5:13 PM, "Josh Tynjala" wrote: >On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Michael Schmalle >> wrote: > >> >> If I knew people like you were getting interested in these projects, I >>know >> it's a catalyst for me because I met you back in 2005-2006(can't >>remember), >> right when AIR(Apollo

Please welcome Josh Tynjala as Apache Flex Committer

2015-05-15 Thread Alex Harui
The Apache Flex Project Management Committee (PMC) is pleased to announce our newest committer, Josh Tynjala. Josh is currently well known for his work on Feathers [1], but recently has contributed enough patches to the AntOnAir library we use in the Apache Flex SDK Installer that we decided to of

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Josh Tynjala
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > > If I knew people like you were getting interested in these projects, I know > it's a catalyst for me because I met you back in 2005-2006(can't remember), > right when AIR(Apollo) was released at the Adobe component developer > summit. I

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Schmalle
Josh, You ARE the reason I am on this list right now from 2 years away. Your Feathers framework proves how well ActionScript "doesn't" get in the way of making an app quick. I was able in about 2 days to pick it up and get something going with my audio stuff. That said, Alex and Erik did a lo(mo

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Josh Tynjala
Why would someone pick ActionScript over TypeScript? I have ten years of experience with ActionScript. If I were to switch away from Flash/AIR today, I'd prefer to keep using the same language and focus on learning new libraries (whether with a framework like FlexJS or lower-level DOM). It's signif

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Schmalle
Hmm, yeah ok that looks interesting. I don't know as Alex said what is the benefit??? Who knows. :) I know from mid 2012 to mid 2013 I did a huge amount of compiler work for Apache and Randori, I know what AS can do going to JS, it was quite fun. Mike went to quite a few conferences and from the

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > > > > On 5/15/15, 12:35 PM, "Michael Schmalle" > > wrote: > > > > > > > >FlexJS does massive more since it does CSS, MXML States etc. But that > > >compiler in the repo right no

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Schmalle
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 5/15/15, 12:35 PM, "Michael Schmalle" > wrote: > > > > >FlexJS does massive more since it does CSS, MXML States etc. But that > >compiler in the repo right now can do what you mentioned already. > > Josh’s idea is interesting. In both

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Alex Harui
On 5/15/15, 12:35 PM, "Michael Schmalle" wrote: > >FlexJS does massive more since it does CSS, MXML States etc. But that >compiler in the repo right now can do what you mentioned already. Josh’s idea is interesting. In both Randori and FlexJS, the transpiler is buried in the package. I think

RE: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
In short Randori was based on idea that the designer does its views in HTML / CSS and the behavior (business logic) is implemented in another language (C++, AS3, etc), the behavior was plugged into HTML via CSS, we had the full SDK, tool chain, even being able to work via surface API with other

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Schmalle
Yeah, you are correct on all accounts. Summed up laymans, Mike had wrapped Guice IOC impl in ActionScript that basically compiled over to Javascript. The thing he never agreed with about FlexJS back in 2013 was the view. Randori injected HTML templates and injected them into the DOM. But... I wr

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Josh Tynjala
I had heard of Randori, but I remember visiting the website and being unable to figure out what exactly it was from the description on the homepage. All the language used was pretty dense with technical stuff and hard for me to understand. Based on community tweets about it, I got the vague idea th

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Schmalle
And you can see; https://github.com/RandoriAS/randori-libraries We had a huge amount of shims for frameworks that "just worked" and compiled to javascript. Mike On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > @Josh We already had it. The Randori project and Randori compiler was a >

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Schmalle
@Josh We already had it. The Randori project and Randori compiler was a straight transpiler. See; https://github.com/RandoriAS/randori-compiler Nice to see you in the conversation. :) Mike On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Josh Tynjala wrote: > In my opinion, a separate product that is simply

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Schmalle
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > On 5/15/15, 11:26 AM, "Michael Schmalle" > wrote: > > > >What I want to do in the next couple months is test the crap out of all > >the > >base UI components and make sure they work, JUST WORK from as to in the > >browser. > > That would b

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Josh Tynjala
In my opinion, a separate product that is simply an ActionScript to JavaScript transpiler with direct access to browser APIs like the DOM would be a smart idea. It would help establish the idea that ActionScript isn't only for Flash and SWFs. Developers would see that ActionScript can be used simil

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Alex Harui
On 5/15/15, 11:26 AM, "Michael Schmalle" wrote: > >What I want to do in the next couple months is test the crap out of all >the >base UI components and make sure they work, JUST WORK from as to in the >browser. That would be awesome. Be prepared, you’ll find lots of issues. >Well, that is my

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Schmalle
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:48 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala wrote: > > Overall, I think FlexJS is going in the right direction. We just need to > keep at it and create a minimum viable product and keep making regular > releases. By the time we are ready, I believe AngularJS and React would > have prim

RE: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
> Yeah, so I hope that Alexander or one of his folks will soon join this > thread and help out. Maybe I’ll have to offer to buy a full license if > they can help us get it working. hug, I hope I made buy enough licenses from the companies I've been working that you won't need to do that. Frédér

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
Looking at the direction in which the major frameworks are moving towards, it seems like FlexJS (or even Flex itself) has been the best approach all along. Google's AngularJS 2.0 is using Webcomponents to create MXML like declarative components [1]. Facebook's React is using JSX to do the same [2

RE: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
> Fred, I didn't mean to contradict anything you said I know, don't worry, it wasn't about that at all, but reading the 2 asnwers, they look like a bit opposite, just because the context was different :-) > I just know the 100's > of hours you rput into the Randori plugin And I'm pretty sure it

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Alex Harui
On 5/15/15, 11:31 AM, "Frédéric THOMAS" wrote: >> I guess I am hoping there is one more scenario where we put the right >> files and data in a FlexJS release that IntelliJ thinks it is a Flex SDK >> without it actually being a Flex SDK. I don’t know what a Facet is or >> what goes in a Randori

RE: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
> I guess I am hoping there is one more scenario where we put the right > files and data in a FlexJS release that IntelliJ thinks it is a Flex SDK > without it actually being a Flex SDK. I don’t know what a Facet is or > what goes in a Randori-lik plug-in, but I don’t think it was necessary for >

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Schmalle
That's just it, we live in a stereotypical world, where it's not fair but it's the truth and we have to play that game. IMHO, changing the name of something has no effect on the validity of the technology. FlexJS will succeed because it solves a problem and solves it well. I really don't know why

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Alex Harui
On 5/15/15, 11:04 AM, "Michael Schmalle" wrote: >I know the whole open source mantra, but it would be nice to work on >something that gets used by people. FlexJS is another question mark >because >on top of the technology transforming things and not just HTML/JS >framework, you have to wipe the

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Schmalle
Fred, I didn't mean to contradict anything you said. I just know the 100's of hours you rput into the Randori plugin and I don't want to sound like I am over stepping bounds on anything I say. Honestly, I thought the whole Randori thing with IOC and it's easy framework might actually get used, I h

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Alex Harui
I guess I am hoping there is one more scenario where we put the right files and data in a FlexJS release that IntelliJ thinks it is a Flex SDK without it actually being a Flex SDK. I don’t know what a Facet is or what goes in a Randori-lik plug-in, but I don’t think it was necessary for me to do t

RE: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
Well, it seems the in last 2 answers (Mike and myself), there is a contradiction, actually there is not, there are only few scenarios for IntelliJ IMO - We don't do anything particular and we use FlexJS as a lib on top of the Flex SDK an we have a not user friendly setup as we've seen recently.

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Schmalle
@Alex https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-116986 Been there, done that. > BTW, I would hope that better integration with IntelliJ doesn’t require a whole Randori-like plug in. Considering how much time Fred etal put into that "project", I doubt there is enough time to get even close to wh

RE: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
> BTW, I would hope that better integration with IntelliJ doesn’t require a > whole Randori-like plug in. Falcon should be able to swap in for MXMLC > with fewer changes. I could be wrong but if the name and location of the compiler and the API is the same (to be sure, check the idea-flex-compil

Re: Why are there two ArrayList classes? [PING Justin Mclean)

2015-05-15 Thread Gareth Smith
> The discussion on this was in March 2013. This is it, I think: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/ArrayList-itemUpdateHandler-Change-td7774.html It looks to me like the intention of the person who originally created the new ArrayList (Michael A. Labriola) was for it to be tes

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Alex Harui
On 5/15/15, 9:03 AM, "Frédéric THOMAS" wrote: >It was a revert of the previous commit because I used IntelliJ the code >cleanup function which touched all the files, the following commit >59659f7cc66a20a9450d4a3117a5f999f1fa41c7 shows that only DebugCLI and >Extensions was touched. > >In this

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Alex Harui
On 5/15/15, 8:54 AM, "Frédéric THOMAS" wrote: >> Regarding the file location in FDB, I wasn’t sure you had time to work >>on >> it so I didn’t mention it. But if you have time that would be great. >> IMO, it doesn’t require a JIRA issue to track it if you have the fix >>ready. > >You can now d

RE: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
> Git log for dcc404689eb20d5a037bbf67f4cbb85adec92237 shows that you > changed FaultActions for FLEX-34062. I am able to copy 3 jars from the > Flex SDK and run fdb, but others were getting some sort of mismatch, like > some older version of DebugCLI.java was calling directly to FaultActions

RE: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
sh Player Debugger) [build 20150515] Copyright 2013 The Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved. (fdb) run Waiting for Player to connect Player connected; session starting. Set breakpoints and then type 'continue' to resume the session. (fdb) dir C:\Users\AsusFred\Downloads Source d

Re: Mustella SDK tests

2015-05-15 Thread Alex Harui
These pass for me. We’ve had this problem several times in the past on that machine. For some reason the player gets in a funky state. Once I was able to fix it by moving the player window, but I can’t reproduce the same problem on my computer. -Alex From: Tom Chiverton mailto:t...@extravisi

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Alex Harui
Fred, Which classes in flex-falcon are interacting with FDB? I’m trying to understand whether we can bundle FDB from the Flex SDK into FlexJS. Git log for dcc404689eb20d5a037bbf67f4cbb85adec92237 shows that you changed FaultActions for FLEX-34062. I am able to copy 3 jars from the Flex SDK and r

RE: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
Alex, Btw, Just seen my commit message before to fix the worker but after my merge of the donated code, FLEX-34291: I kept the legacy code to evaluate expressions, the new code based on Falcon classes will be created in the Falcon repository. I re-applied previous fixes we had of FDB So, it s

RE: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
> I didn’t think there was a different debugger code base for Falcon. That's a while, but IIRC and I can be wrong, it seems to me I had to remap some classes onto the asc or compiler, can't exactly remember, I should look at the git history and compare to be sure. > I think Piotr and Kevin r

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread kevin.godell
TeotiGraphix wrote > Kevin, I am curious what are some of your motivations for trying out and > testing FlexJS? > > Mike Mike, thanks for asking, although you may regret the long boring answer. Short answer: I have some guys at work with windows phones and tablets and I would like them to use m

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Alex Harui
On 5/15/15, 5:31 AM, "Frédéric THOMAS" wrote: >Hi Alex, > >It seems I've been wrong here, I didn't get well the context and I was >missing data, I thougt FDB in Falcon was the donated version, it seems to >be wrong and FDB is only a copy of the one in the Flex SDK, right ? > >If I'm correct, wh

RE: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Frédéric THOMAS
Hi Alex, It seems I've been wrong here, I didn't get well the context and I was missing data, I thougt FDB in Falcon was the donated version, it seems to be wrong and FDB is only a copy of the one in the Flex SDK, right ? If I'm correct, why don't we use the donated one which was based on Falco

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread Michael Schmalle
Kevin, I am curious what are some of your motivations for trying out and testing FlexJS? Mike On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 7:23 AM, kevin.godell wrote: > Thanks. The output arg worked. I added this little bit to the parameters of > the custom external tool: > > -output=$ModuleFileDir$/bin/$ModuleNam

Re: [FlexJS] IntelliJ Integration

2015-05-15 Thread kevin.godell
Thanks. The output arg worked. I added this little bit to the parameters of the custom external tool: -output=$ModuleFileDir$/bin/$ModuleName$.swf It puts the swf in the bin folder. It even creates the bin folder if it doesn't already exist. I was also testing to see if Adobe Scout could pick up

Mustella SDK tests

2015-05-15 Thread Tom Chiverton
Can someone on a Windows machine try some of the following Mustella tests ? They are consistently failing on the Jenkins job. spark/core/fxg/properties/fxgtemplate_masks mask_clip_mask spark/core/fxg/properties/fxgtemplate_tester blend_mode_radial_gradient_blends_blend_difference_radialgradient