That's just it, we live in a stereotypical world, where it's not fair but
it's the truth and we have to play that game.

IMHO, changing the name of something has no effect on the validity of the
technology. FlexJS will succeed because it solves a problem and solves it
well.

I really don't know why I am on this list right now being away from two
years. Oh wait, yeah I do, I got sick of how verbose Java is when I want to
do simple things. I got sick of how convoluted Java's UI stuff is on mobile
as well. A Feathers release kept popping up in my Facebook stream, every
month I kept seeing it, then one day I broke down and busted out the AS IDE
again and jumped into Feathers.

I have created 5 times more prototypes and base apps using the auido
framework I use using Feathers. Is it because of Feathers? Yes and No, Josh
is an extremely talented framework engineer and his UI framework is
pricelsss but it also leverages ActionScript for speed of development and
there IS a reason he is taking the time to get MXML working for Feathers.

The no part just has to do with how fast and encapsulated the ActionScript
API is, the sandbox nature of it.

Alex, your component framework is very nice. I have a  feeling your spent
awhile deciding to go in the direction you did but, I think your gamble of
the Application setup and basing it on MVC was the right choice.

What I want to do in the next couple months is test the crap out of all the
base UI components and make sure they work, JUST WORK from as to in the
browser. Liek the same way I started testing FalconJX, from the most
granular instance out, I think that is why the compiler works so well
today, it's because of thos first 300 or so tests at the expression and
statement level. This is what we HAVE to do with FlexJS.

We need a couple hooks that tell the community, the FlexJS API was like the
ActionScript API you loved, it's sandboxed and just WORKS in the browser.

Note; I am no javascript guru, I am going to have to learn a lot about it
so I can actually test it.\

Well, that is my ramble for today. I just hope we can keep some spirited
devs that like working in the trenches where there isn't much "external
validation" for a while, that is what it's going to take for this project
to succeed and it really needs to happen before 2016. The whole ne ES6 and
stuff, lots of change on the horizon.

Mike



On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 5/15/15, 11:04 AM, "Michael Schmalle" <teotigraphix...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I know the whole open source mantra, but it would be nice to work on
> >something that gets used by people. FlexJS is another question mark
> >because
> >on top of the technology transforming things and not just HTML/JS
> >framework, you have to wipe the idea out of peoples head this IS NOT Flash
> >and Adobe, it's ActionScript and MXML, a design pattern, just like all the
> >other frameworks an automated tools out there for JavaScript currently.
>
> Agree.  I’d consider changing its name from FlexJS to something without
> Flex in it if that would help, but I still like the association of Flex
> with AS and MXML and think that we might get our first customers from
> former Flex folks.
>
> Then if we can show that these customers start cranking out apps faster
> than folks using other frameworks and word gets out about that, then we
> will have won.  We have a lot of code to write before that happens, so
> thanks to anyone who helps out.
>
> -Alex
>
>

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