Looking at the direction in which the major frameworks are moving towards, it seems like FlexJS (or even Flex itself) has been the best approach all along.
Google's AngularJS 2.0 is using Webcomponents to create MXML like declarative components [1]. Facebook's React is using JSX to do the same [2] Flex has been doing this forever. AngularJS 2.0 will be using Microsoft's TypeScript + Annotations (in lieu of plain ol' Javascript)[3] . TypeScript + Annotations makes is so much more closer to Actionscript3. AngularJS2.0 (via Traceur) and React+JSX (via JSX compiler) both compile down to pure JavaScript. This is the same concept as the FalconJX compiler. Overall, I think FlexJS is going in the right direction. We just need to keep at it and create a minimum viable product and keep making regular releases. By the time we are ready, I believe AngularJS and React would have primed the tech community for the FlexJS paradigm. Thanks, Om [1] http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/webcomponents/customelements/ [2] https://facebook.github.io/jsx/ [3] http://blogs.msdn.com/b/typescript/archive/2015/03/05/angular-2-0-built-on-typescript.aspx On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Michael Schmalle < teotigraphix...@gmail.com> wrote: > That's just it, we live in a stereotypical world, where it's not fair but > it's the truth and we have to play that game. > > IMHO, changing the name of something has no effect on the validity of the > technology. FlexJS will succeed because it solves a problem and solves it > well. > > I really don't know why I am on this list right now being away from two > years. Oh wait, yeah I do, I got sick of how verbose Java is when I want to > do simple things. I got sick of how convoluted Java's UI stuff is on mobile > as well. A Feathers release kept popping up in my Facebook stream, every > month I kept seeing it, then one day I broke down and busted out the AS IDE > again and jumped into Feathers. > > I have created 5 times more prototypes and base apps using the auido > framework I use using Feathers. Is it because of Feathers? Yes and No, Josh > is an extremely talented framework engineer and his UI framework is > pricelsss but it also leverages ActionScript for speed of development and > there IS a reason he is taking the time to get MXML working for Feathers. > > The no part just has to do with how fast and encapsulated the ActionScript > API is, the sandbox nature of it. > > Alex, your component framework is very nice. I have a feeling your spent > awhile deciding to go in the direction you did but, I think your gamble of > the Application setup and basing it on MVC was the right choice. > > What I want to do in the next couple months is test the crap out of all the > base UI components and make sure they work, JUST WORK from as to in the > browser. Liek the same way I started testing FalconJX, from the most > granular instance out, I think that is why the compiler works so well > today, it's because of thos first 300 or so tests at the expression and > statement level. This is what we HAVE to do with FlexJS. > > We need a couple hooks that tell the community, the FlexJS API was like the > ActionScript API you loved, it's sandboxed and just WORKS in the browser. > > Note; I am no javascript guru, I am going to have to learn a lot about it > so I can actually test it.\ > > Well, that is my ramble for today. I just hope we can keep some spirited > devs that like working in the trenches where there isn't much "external > validation" for a while, that is what it's going to take for this project > to succeed and it really needs to happen before 2016. The whole ne ES6 and > stuff, lots of change on the horizon. > > Mike > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 5/15/15, 11:04 AM, "Michael Schmalle" <teotigraphix...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > >I know the whole open source mantra, but it would be nice to work on > > >something that gets used by people. FlexJS is another question mark > > >because > > >on top of the technology transforming things and not just HTML/JS > > >framework, you have to wipe the idea out of peoples head this IS NOT > Flash > > >and Adobe, it's ActionScript and MXML, a design pattern, just like all > the > > >other frameworks an automated tools out there for JavaScript currently. > > > > Agree. I’d consider changing its name from FlexJS to something without > > Flex in it if that would help, but I still like the association of Flex > > with AS and MXML and think that we might get our first customers from > > former Flex folks. > > > > Then if we can show that these customers start cranking out apps faster > > than folks using other frameworks and word gets out about that, then we > > will have won. We have a lot of code to write before that happens, so > > thanks to anyone who helps out. > > > > -Alex > > > > >
