Re: SeachConditionBuilder for CXF JAX-RS clients

2011-02-03 Thread Andrzej Michalec
I could not reply earlier, Sergey knows I am (still) attending to my company's internal event ;) Just couple first thoughts on the subject. The FIQL that we suport is quite simple and basically is about comparing properties of given entity with constant values and then combine these simple boolea

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Johan Edstrom
Well, you can't get pizza that is decent in the US anyways, :P On Feb 2, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Jeff Genender wrote: > -1... what is reputable? Who decides who is "reputable"? Am I reputable? > > Apache is not about tooting your own horn. Go back to your respective > company and have them purchas

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Eric Johnson
I agree with Dan and Glenn. Commercial support makes CXF stronger and provides a way for active committers (and some inactive one as well) to earn a living while doing what they love doing. Letting companies put up some marketing blurb on the support page and/or on a dedicated Commercial Offering p

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Jeff Genender
Lets make something clear here so we can delineate the difference between the contributions folks make. If someone is truly inactive and not making contributions of value, then we can request emeritus. I think our fearless leader Dan has done an outstanding job of keeping on that issue. Contr

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Craig Tataryn
Speaking as a member of the community (non-commiter outside of a few patches) I don't have a problem with the claims which the CXF supporting companies make on their own site. They are paying people to forward the development of CXF, they should get to stick out their chest and let it be known.

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Wednesday 02 February 2011 10:28:50 pm Jeff Genender wrote: > -1... what is reputable? Who decides who is "reputable"? Am I reputable? Umm was that last question rhetorical? Do you really want me to answer that? Can you really trust someone who gets plastered on less than a single

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Jeff Genender
+1 and well said. Jeff On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Craig Tataryn wrote: > Speaking as a member of the community (non-commiter outside of a few patches) > I don't have a problem with the claims which the CXF supporting companies > make on their own site. They are paying people to forward the d

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Jeff Genender
Well said, Dan. And BTW... did you tell anyone the alcohol content of that beer? ;-) Low blow man! ;-) Jeff On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > On Wednesday 02 February 2011 10:28:50 pm Jeff Genender wrote: >> -1... what is reputable? Who decides who is "reputable"? Am I reput

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Eric, I am still trying to decide if you are serious or just fooling around. I thought we clarified this in private. Public is fine too. Comments inline. If I come across as upset, I am! Hadrian On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Eric Johnson wrote: > I agree with Dan and Glenn. Commercial support

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Christian Schneider
+1 for working out a policy for commercial marketing in CXF resources (wiki, mailing list, subversion, ..). My proposal is that we create a policy in a wiki page, let it mature a bit and then call a vote on it. So we have some guideline for people who create marketing statements in the wiki or

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
There, even non committers get it. Spot on. Thanks Craig for speaking up! Hadrian On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Craig Tataryn wrote: > Speaking as a member of the community (non-commiter outside of a few patches) > I don't have a problem with the claims which the CXF supporting companies > mak

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
I agree with Jeff. By stating 'a beer' and not stating the alcohol content, you knew the readers will make wrong assumptions. This is strikingly similar to the marketing practices on the apache site. (For the record, the alcohol content was much lower than some wines, not mentioning vodka.) ;)

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Jeff Genender
ORLY? For the record: http://www.brewdog.com/sink_the_bismark 41% baby!!! Jeff On Feb 3, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: > I agree with Jeff. By stating 'a beer' and not stating the alcohol content, > you knew the readers will make wrong assumptions. > This is strikingly similar to

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Eric Johnson
Hadrian, We discussed a specific instance in private. I was happy to accept your guidelines given your position as PMC Chair of Apache Camel and will abide by them. As the existence of this thread evidences, the boundaries of what is acceptable for companies to place on a project site is not clear

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
Looks like more clarification is in order. I am not a CXF committer. My role in the Apache Camel project has no relevance here. Here I speak as an Apache member. One of the duties of Apache members is to provide oversight to other projects which, experience taught us, is a useful and necessary thi

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Guillaume Nodet
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 18:18, Hadrian Zbarcea wrote: > Looks like more clarification is in order. I am not a CXF committer. > My role in the Apache Camel project has no relevance here. Here I > speak as an Apache member. One of the duties of Apache members is > to provide oversight to other projec

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Thursday 03 February 2011 10:53:30 am Christian Schneider wrote: > +1 for working out a policy for commercial marketing in CXF resources > (wiki, mailing list, subversion, ..). I've updated the page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CXF/Commercial+CXF+Offerings (will sync live in

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Eric Johnson
+1 Dan thanks for doing this. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > On Thursday 03 February 2011 10:53:30 am Christian Schneider wrote: >> +1 for working out a policy for commercial marketing in CXF resources >> (wiki, mailing list, subversion, ..). > > > I've updated the page: >

Re: SeachConditionBuilder for CXF JAX-RS clients

2011-02-03 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
Hi Andy On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Andrzej Michalec wrote: > > I could not reply earlier, Sergey knows I am (still) attending to my > company's internal event ;) > thanks for finding the time to reply, > Just couple first thoughts on the subject. > > The FIQL that we suport is quite simp

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Christian Schneider
Sounds good for me. What I would have imagined for a complete policy is how to handle other pages and e.g. the mailing list. I think we could add to the policies that promotion of products on other wiki pages ist not allowed. Perhaps on the articles page links to articles about cxf + products

How to optimize JAXP Source reads

2011-02-03 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
Hi I'm looking at the XMLStreamDataReader in the SourceDataBinding and trying to figure out what I can 'borrow' :-) from that code to have the JAX-RS SourceProvider optimized. The XMLStreamDataReader calls a resetForStreaming(XMLStreamReader) function, when StaxSource or SAXSource is expected whi

Re: How to optimize JAXP Source reads

2011-02-03 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Thursday 03 February 2011 5:08:10 pm Sergey Beryozkin wrote: > Hi > > I'm looking at the XMLStreamDataReader in the SourceDataBinding and trying > to figure out what I can 'borrow' :-) from that code > to have the JAX-RS SourceProvider optimized. > > The XMLStreamDataReader calls a resetForStr

Re: [CONF] Apache CXF > Commercial CXF Offerings

2011-02-03 Thread Benson Margulies
In my opinion, the first amendment is relatively relevant to the mailing list. A polite, infrequent, announcement of a commercial offering of potential interest to the users is just find by me, personally, and I know of no ASF policy to the contrary. It is of course going to be a matter of gray to