re willing can't do it
alone, they need support. That support should come from here.
-Original Message-
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 11:12 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache C
On 11/23/15, 11:01 AM, "Benson Margulies" wrote:
>It won't be a community if people are unable to follow the
>discussions. I think that it would be fine to handle user@ traffic in
>whatever language, but we need to enforce English as the language of
>community decision making.
Sure, once the d
It won't be a community if people are unable to follow the
discussions. I think that it would be fine to handle user@ traffic in
whatever language, but we need to enforce English as the language of
community decision making.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
> On 11/21/15, 7:06 PM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote:
>
>>That was my reaction. A dev-cn@community.apache. org could be a useful
>>discussion vehicle to engage prospects and help with facilitating that
>>engagement. It wouldn't look all that much
On 11/21/15, 7:06 PM, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote:
>That was my reaction. A dev-cn@community.apache. org could be a useful
>discussion vehicle to engage prospects and help with facilitating that
>engagement. It wouldn't look all that much different than the usual
>English Q&A here on dev@c a o.
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Ted Liu wrote:
> My apologies if misunderstood from Ted Dunning's earlier comment: " I was
> a mentor on kylin and worried about English being a problem for
> contribution. The real problem is that apache is partially defined by the
> use of English to allow as w
Got it. Will work with Sally for it. Ted
-Original Message-
From: Ross Gardler [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 1:20 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
True that any
an unknown that younger generation
> > > contributors would not tolerate.
> > >
> > > The more challenging part is the culture differences where the sense of
> > > community, governance, contribution and the Apache Way are still at
> > > infant stage in Ch
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Lei Chang wrote:
> There are about 5 million college graduates each year in China, and i think
> there is
> a great potential to increase the number of contributors from Apache
> community in China.
Speaking of which: do you know what's the status of Google Summe
he.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
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On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Ted Liu wrote:
> p.s. The reason why a Wechat public account is a big plus because it is
> used by 500M Wechat chatters on dail
ve China-specific scenario.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:56 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
> Community
lto:luke...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:08 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
> Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
> Community
>
> >>I'm so glad to hear that you were the mentor of Apache
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:08 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
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Community
>>I'm so glad to hear that you were the mentor of Apache Kylin
>>incubation
project and tr
the
> Chinese-originated projects like Kylin. So the localization priority is
> obvious.
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Ted Dunning [mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:33 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Cc: nic...@he
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Ted Liu wrote:
> p.s. The reason why a Wechat public account is a big plus because it is
> used by 500M Wechat chatters on daily basis to acquire/learn information.
> This is a very effective China-specific scenario.
>
Note that you can use ANY channel or medium
@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
thinking more about it
Imagine:
- a few localized pages in
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=community.apache.org&data=01%7c01%7ctedl%40064d.mgd.microsoft
Ted,
My further comments are in-line. Your explanation is helping understand
what your goals are.
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Ted Liu wrote:
> Hi Ted, Yes, we want to establish a bridge or a group (if the idea of
> "China Community" seemed to be intimidating or crazy) to help more devs
>
priority is obvious.
Ted
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From: Ted Dunning [mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:33 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
Ted
I think apache can
contents and a streamline user
> > experience. Ted
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ross Gardler [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:00 PM
> > To: dev@community.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: Forming a comm
From: Ted Dunning<mailto:ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
Sent: 11/21/2015 3:27 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org<mailto:nic...@hedhman.org>
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
Ross,
How d
e.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org>
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org<mailto:nic...@hedhman.org>
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Ross,
How do you square opposition to a separate china org with the irreconcilable
needs to maintain English as
ommunity.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
> Community
>
> Localized content is a great suggestion.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:58
r.
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ross Gardler [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:46 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
> Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
&
Ross,
How do you square opposition to a separate china org with the irreconcilable
needs to maintain English as the language of apache with the need to allow
non-English speaking Chinese speakers to participate?
I can't.
To the extent that it is possible, I encourage English capable people
-Original Message-
From: Ross Gardler [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:46 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
Why do those pioneers need a place outside of
@community.apache.org
Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
Localized content is a great suggestion.
-Original Message-
From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:58 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Localized content is a great suggestion.
-Original Message-
From: Hervé BOUTEMY [mailto:herve.bout...@free.fr]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:58 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
I like the idea of
lture where the proposed China community/group can
> > contribute.
> >
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:hedh...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 3:02 PM
> > To: dev@community.apache.
: nic...@hedhman.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
+1 for a formal community project in China.
There are some experiences I can share when some apache committers in China are
developing the community for Apache HAWQ (in incubation).
A wechat
rday, November 21, 2015 1:58 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org; nic...@hedhman.org
Subject: RE: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
Hi Niclas,
It'd be appreciated an open and constructive discussion can be formed at ASF
instead of labeling or stereotyping. The
ity.apache.org
> Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
> Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
> Community
>
> +1 for a formal community project in China.
>
> There are some experiences I can share when some apache committers in China
> are developing the communit
Lei, Thanks. Ted
-Original Message-
From: Lei Chang [mailto:chang.lei...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:17 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Cc: nic...@hedhman.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
+1 for a formal community
d China community/group can
> contribute.
>
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:hedh...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 3:02 PM
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Ap
blockers are language and
> non-Apache-Way culture where the proposed China community/group can
> contribute.
>
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:hedh...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 3:02 PM
> To: dev@c
om: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:hedh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 3:02 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: Forming a community of Apache fans in China - Apache China
Community
Ted,
2 things...
1. There were Apache Roadshows in Shanghai in 2010 and 2011.
2. I am glad t
Ted,
2 things...
1. There were Apache Roadshows in Shanghai in 2010 and 2011.
2. I am glad to see your enthusiasm of forming/creating organization. But
the ASF and many other open source projects are not command&control driven
top-down structures. So, there is very little "need" for "creation of
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