Ted, 2 things... 1. There were Apache Roadshows in Shanghai in 2010 and 2011.
2. I am glad to see your enthusiasm of forming/creating organization. But the ASF and many other open source projects are not command&control driven top-down structures. So, there is very little "need" for "creation of communities". They either form, or they don't. I was happy to see that the younger generation at the Roadshow in Beijing grasped that idea very well, whereas the somewhat older generation had a more top-down approach, of wanting to build it like a company, like a government or a religious organization. I hope that you can appreciate the difference and channel your enthusiasm slightly differently. Like you, I think language barrier is currently a big barrier, but I have first hand witnessed the improvements in online translation services in the past few years. Enormous improvement. Perhaps we are soon at a stage where this can be an additional tool to bridge this gap. My suggestions are towards localized meetups, where discussion, hacking, presentations are conducted, by the participants, for the participants, a peer-to-peer environment. Apache doesn't need to be formally involved in this, but I am sure many Apache contributors would be happy to participate, as peers, in such events/clubs. And I am convinced this will spin off both projects as well as dieect contribution to ASF and other projects. Be an igniter, not a driver. Ignite many small efforts, instead of single big one. Keep up the positive work. Niclas On Nov 21, 2015 13:18, "Ted Liu" <t...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Hi Apache Community Development PMC, > > Wish to get some advices on how to form a community of Apache fans in > China. Would a new China-specific project at the ComDev be possible? Please > see the background and thoughts outlined below. > > Apache projects and technologies have been widely adopted in China, such > as Alibaba, Tencent, many enterprises, academic and public services. > However, there has been little engagement between ASF and communities and > enterprises in China. We, at KAIYUANSHE (www.kaiyuanshe.org< > http://www.kaiyuanshe.org>, the first ground-up open source alliance > chartered to promote open source governance and technologies in China and > Asia with over 50 community and enterprise members now) wish to bridge the > gaps between the leading international OSS communities, like ASF, and > communities and enterprises in China. The last Apache roadshow was on 2009 > in Shanghai. We, KAIYUANSHE, thought it'd be good to reboot the ASF > engagement through another roadshow in China. > > The Apache Roadshow 2015 - China with KAIYUANSHE was organized by > KAIYUANSHE and successfully held on Oct. 24-25 in Beijing with ASF's > community sponsorship and keynoters support, i.e. Brett Porter, David > Nalley, Niclas Hedhman, J. Aaron Farr and Jason Dai. Please see more > roadshow details here. > > - ASF "Foundation" blog http://s.apache.org/q2L< > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fs.apache.org%2fq2L&data=01%7c01%7ctedl%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c407aaa4b8a314f85dc0a08d2ebd3057d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=BX9JYQC1f13QXPZwKSGBm6%2bwC2D%2fn1%2bcOoq3rIQTwsw%3d > > > - @TheASF Twitter feed > https://twitter.com/TheASF/status/664920266397646848< > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2ftwitter.com%2fTheASF%2fstatus%2f664920266397646848&data=01%7c01%7ctedl%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c407aaa4b8a314f85dc0a08d2ebd3057d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=l6exPHzOHmI56%2bicv2MCtaEPkCHpdC7CWhdX0GFRwPs%3d > > > - annou...@apache.org<mailto:annou...@apache.org> (and archives) > - ASF dedicated media/analyst list > - http://apache.org/< > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fapache.org%2f&data=01%7c01%7ctedl%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7c407aaa4b8a314f85dc0a08d2ebd3057d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=F1DdEAFN4EWnlKMlYZkPfa2izrtPwulToBHZcpf%2b0O4%3d> > home page > > After the roadshow, we have received tremendous requests to form a China > community to keep engaging with 5000+ audience who attended this roadshow > and tens of thousands people who did not have time or were unaware of the > events. So far, there already are many volunteers, including Apache > members, PMC members, committers, contributors, developers and users, who > are willing to join the China community steering committee and working > groups to help grow the talents, projects and community in China and bridge > between ASF and the fans in China following the Apache way. > > Any feedback or advice on how to form a community of Apache fans in China > or how to form a new China-specific project at the ComDev would be greatly > appreciated. > > > Ted Liu > Co-organizer of the Apache Roadshow 2015 - China > Co-founding member of KAIYUANSHE >
