[jira] [Comment Edited] (COMDEV-413) GSoC: Apache CouchDB and Debezium integration

2022-01-12 Thread Hellakala Gamage Dineth Shan Gimhana (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-413?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17475113#comment-17475113 ] Hellakala Gamage Dineth Shan Gimhana edited comment on COMDEV-413 at 1/13/22, 5:28 AM: ---

[jira] [Comment Edited] (COMDEV-413) GSoC: Apache CouchDB and Debezium integration

2022-01-12 Thread Hellakala Gamage Dineth Shan Gimhana (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-413?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17475113#comment-17475113 ] Hellakala Gamage Dineth Shan Gimhana edited comment on COMDEV-413 at 1/13/22, 5:28 AM: ---

[jira] [Commented] (COMDEV-413) GSoC: Apache CouchDB and Debezium integration

2022-01-12 Thread Hellakala Gamage Dineth Shan Gimhana (Jira)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-413?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17475113#comment-17475113 ] Hellakala Gamage Dineth Shan Gimhana commented on COMDEV-413: -

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Jarek Potiuk
> And speaking from my extremely parochial POV as part of the SpamAssassin > project, I know that our requests for "support" often amount to > embedding special dispensation for sketchy practices, so I don't think > anyone working on *OUR* project could "lift" it without telling > subscribers "NO!"

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Jarek Potiuk
> > I expect I know the answer to this but do any of your sponsors require > (or even request) that you mention them in the project web site or in the > README? No. And this is something I would never be able to agree to because the agreement is with me not with PMC/project. But for example Astron

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Aa Ll
يعني وش السالفة . شوفوا مودي طيب في الأربعاء، ١٢ يناير ٢٠٢٢ ٩:١٢ م Bill Cole < sa-bugz-20080...@billmail.scconsult.com> كتب: > On 2022-01-12 at 08:51:37 UTC-0500 (Wed, 12 Jan 2022 08:51:37 -0500) > Jim Jagielski > is rumored to have said: > > > IMO, the foundation and the project should do nothi

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Bill Cole
On 2022-01-12 at 08:51:37 UTC-0500 (Wed, 12 Jan 2022 08:51:37 -0500) Jim Jagielski is rumored to have said: IMO, the foundation and the project should do nothing associated with this. It should neither encourage or condone it. In no way should we enter into any agreement, contract, whatever, w

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Bill Cole
On 2022-01-12 at 10:41:22 UTC-0500 (Wed, 12 Jan 2022 08:41:22 -0700) Ralph Goers is rumored to have said: That said, if the Tidelift model for people to be funded was “Your project must adhere to all ASF process and guidelines AND you must have a minimum of 3 active committers (proven by them

Re: MODERATE for ment...@community.apache.org

2022-01-12 Thread Craig Russell
> On Jan 11, 2022, at 10:03 AM, Mohammad Noureldin > wrote: > > Hi Harjout, > > In addition to what has been suggested by Maxim, I would like your feedback > on something. > > Where on the Apache Community Development website [1] you've that you may > need to send an email to mentors@ ?. Yo

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Ralph Goers
Jarek, I expect I know the answer to this but do any of your sponsors require (or even request) that you mention them in the project web site or in the README? What you are doing sounds fine to me simply because the agreement you have doesn’t obligate the PMC to anything. Tidelift’s business

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Fascinating discussion. My understanding is exactly what Jim explained. I also can explain how it works for me as an individual in Apache Airflow. Apache Airflow has multiple stakeholders and I have regular contracts with a few of them: Google, Astronomer. Also I got a one-time GitHub Sponsorship

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 4:50 PM Ralph Goers wrote: > > Hello all, > > Recently the Logging Services PMC was approached by Tidelift offering to > provide monetary support either to the project or individual committers. To > obtain that sponsorship the project has to agree to the terms at > https

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Jan 12, 2022, at 10:41 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > > Jim, > > While I agree with your conclusion I do disagree with how you get there. > > In your first message you seemed to think that the “self-serving nature” of > what Tidelift is doing is any different than what many companies have b

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Ralph Goers
> On Jan 12, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Mohammad Noureldin > wrote: > > Hi, > > I have 2 questions: > 1- How did that work in the case of Apache Struts ? Any details can be > shared ? In the case of Struts it appears there is only a single active committer and he is the sole person receiving funds

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Ralph Goers
Jim, While I agree with your conclusion I do disagree with how you get there. In your first message you seemed to think that the “self-serving nature” of what Tidelift is doing is any different than what many companies have been doing to the ASF. I am a member of the Flume PMC and my employer

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Mohammad Noureldin
Hi, On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 3:58 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: > Over in the Apache HTTPD project, both the HTTP/2 and the new mod_tls > modules were paid for by outside entities. That is, this entity wanted > these modules to exist, contracted out w/ a 3rd party to write/develop > them, and then back

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Jim Jagielski
Over in the Apache HTTPD project, both the HTTP/2 and the new mod_tls modules were paid for by outside entities. That is, this entity wanted these modules to exist, contracted out w/ a 3rd party to write/develop them, and then backed away. There was no guarantee that these modules would even be

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Rich Bowen
On 1/12/22 09:16, Gary Gregory wrote: I agree that people should handle their affairs as they see fit RE Tidelift but how should this be allowed to trickle in on Apache WRT mentions in web sites and files like readme. IOW, should structs assets remove mentions of Tidelift? Yes. The arrangem

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Gary Gregory
I agree that people should handle their affairs as they see fit RE Tidelift but how should this be allowed to trickle in on Apache WRT mentions in web sites and files like readme. IOW, should structs assets remove mentions of Tidelift? Gary On Wed, Jan 12, 2022, 08:52 Jim Jagielski wrote: > IMO

Re: Tidelift

2022-01-12 Thread Jim Jagielski
IMO, the foundation and the project should do nothing associated with this. It should neither encourage or condone it. In no way should we enter into any agreement, contract, whatever, w/ Tidelift. If Tidelift wishes to work independently and directly w/ people, that's fine. But having the ASF a

Re: How to get started with contribution

2022-01-12 Thread Mohammad Noureldin
Hi Maxim! On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 3:51 AM Maxim Solodovnik wrote: > Hello All, > > Should I change my semi-automatic-answer? :) > Maybe add section or correct some wording? :) > 1st of all, nothing wrong at all regarding your semi-automatic-answer (using your own words :) ). On the contrary I d