يعني وش السالفة . شوفوا مودي طيب في الأربعاء، ١٢ يناير ٢٠٢٢ ٩:١٢ م Bill Cole < sa-bugz-20080...@billmail.scconsult.com> كتب:
> On 2022-01-12 at 08:51:37 UTC-0500 (Wed, 12 Jan 2022 08:51:37 -0500) > Jim Jagielski <dev@community.apache.org> > is rumored to have said: > > > IMO, the foundation and the project should do nothing associated with > > this. It should neither encourage or condone it. In no way should we > > enter into any agreement, contract, whatever, w/ Tidelift. If Tidelift > > wishes to work independently and directly w/ people, that's fine. But > > having the ASF and/or the project involved at any level should be > > disallowed. > > +1 > > It seems clear to me that the Tidelift business model is not compatible > with the ASF's project structure. All of their documentation clearly > only envisions supporting individual contributors or employers of > individual contributors. > > I'd also be very leery of this as an individual. It is unclear what > their performance standards are for "Lifters" under this clause of their > agreement, in the section on termination: > > • failure to complete tasks set out in the Tidelift software > platform (including ineffective or inaccurate completion) > > Since ASF projects have PMCs, not God-Kings, it's generally not possible > for an individual commiter on an ASF project to commit to completing > development tasks which are arbitrarily defined by a 3rd party seeking > "support." > > And speaking from my extremely parochial POV as part of the SpamAssassin > project, I know that our requests for "support" often amount to > embedding special dispensation for sketchy practices, so I don't think > anyone working on *OUR* project could "lift" it without telling > subscribers "NO!" and being terminated. > > > We cannot also ignore the obvious self-serving nature of the request > > by Tidelift and if we are comfortable with them using this as an > > opportunity for promotion. > > Right. They seem pretty lame at promotion, but they are clearly trying > very hard. With my Sr. Sysadmin hat on, I cannot imagine actually paying > them their prices for what they seem to be actually capable of > providing. > > > -- > Bill Cole > b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org > (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) > Not Currently Available For Hire > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
