On 2022-01-12 at 08:51:37 UTC-0500 (Wed, 12 Jan 2022 08:51:37 -0500)
Jim Jagielski <dev@community.apache.org>
is rumored to have said:
IMO, the foundation and the project should do nothing associated with
this. It should neither encourage or condone it. In no way should we
enter into any agreement, contract, whatever, w/ Tidelift. If Tidelift
wishes to work independently and directly w/ people, that's fine. But
having the ASF and/or the project involved at any level should be
disallowed.
+1
It seems clear to me that the Tidelift business model is not compatible
with the ASF's project structure. All of their documentation clearly
only envisions supporting individual contributors or employers of
individual contributors.
I'd also be very leery of this as an individual. It is unclear what
their performance standards are for "Lifters" under this clause of their
agreement, in the section on termination:
• failure to complete tasks set out in the Tidelift software
platform (including ineffective or inaccurate completion)
Since ASF projects have PMCs, not God-Kings, it's generally not possible
for an individual commiter on an ASF project to commit to completing
development tasks which are arbitrarily defined by a 3rd party seeking
"support."
And speaking from my extremely parochial POV as part of the SpamAssassin
project, I know that our requests for "support" often amount to
embedding special dispensation for sketchy practices, so I don't think
anyone working on *OUR* project could "lift" it without telling
subscribers "NO!" and being terminated.
We cannot also ignore the obvious self-serving nature of the request
by Tidelift and if we are comfortable with them using this as an
opportunity for promotion.
Right. They seem pretty lame at promotion, but they are clearly trying
very hard. With my Sr. Sysadmin hat on, I cannot imagine actually paying
them their prices for what they seem to be actually capable of
providing.
--
Bill Cole
b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org
(AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses)
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