Hi Maxim! On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 3:51 AM Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All, > > Should I change my semi-automatic-answer? :) > Maybe add section or correct some wording? :) > 1st of all, nothing wrong at all regarding your semi-automatic-answer (using your own words :) ). On the contrary I do really thank you that you have the patience to keep responding to such emails in a friendly way and that you, in a good way, directing the senders to the right places. It is more about the root cause or the reason behind them keep sending to mentors@ which, IMHO, it can mean 1 of 2 things: - Either they get lost going through the Apache Community Development website - and/or the information is not clear enough For that I believe, and as sebb suggested which I agree with, making clear what channel(s) of communication to use, when and in what context, can help the sender directing them to the right place(s) from the very beginning. We still keep your friendly semi-automatic-answer as a last rest :D May I suggest something. How about you and I go through the Apache Community Development website, collect such content and cross check with each other as a sort of peer-review ? What are your thoughts about that ? > On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 08:23, Mohammad Noureldin > <nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > sebb, good idea! > > > > I will go through the Apache Community Development website, list all > emails > > with when to use and in what context as the content for that > section/page. > > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 1:05 AM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 23:54, Mohammad Noureldin > > > <nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I've followed up on some of these emails that have been sent to > mentors@ > > > > asking the senders to give us feedback on where on the Apache > Community > > > > Development website [1] they have found that they need to/should > send an > > > > email to mentors@. > > > > > > > > IMHO we better 1st understand that before creating another mailing > list. > > > It > > > > could be that we only need to rephrase some information on that > website > > > or > > > > make it more clear where they should go with their > questions/inquiries. > > > > > > Maybe have a single section with all email addresses and what their > > > purpose is. > > > > > > If an email address is mentioned in isolation, the temptation is to > > > just use that without reading the surrounding text carefully. > > > And even if the list does not appear to be quite right, if one has not > > > found any other address then one might assume it is OK to use. > > > > > > When the addresses are listed together, it's much easier to choose the > > > correct list. > > > > > > > [1] https://community.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 8:37 PM Paulo Motta < > pauloricard...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I would like to follow-up on this topic, given the recent student > > > seeking > > > > > GSoC information in the mentors list <ment...@community.apache.org > >. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to hear your opinions on creating a mixed student and > > > mentors > > > > > list <g...@community.apache.org> for ASF-wide mentors to advertise > > > > > projects > > > > > to potentially interested students, as well as taking general > questions > > > > > about ASF participation in GSoC. > > > > > > > > > > If there's interest I can volunteer to set up the list with ASF > Infra, > > > and > > > > > work with Maxim to set it as a point of contact in ASF's GSoC page > (< > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2021/organizations/5149287498907648 > > > > > >). > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > Paulo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 13:32, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> > > > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 15:19, Paulo Motta < > pauloricard...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would it not be better to point to students@ ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps not if we want mentors to have visibility of > prospective > > > > > > students, since that list is restricted only to students afaik. > > > > > > > > > > > > There have not been many posts [1], but they are publicly > archived so > > > > > > I doubt it is restricted to students. It was created in June > 2013 [2] > > > > > > > > > > > > If the list name were promoted on the webpage it might help to > revive > > > > > > the list, otherwise it should perhaps be shut down. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebb > > > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/list?stude...@community.apache.org > > > > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6397 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 12:04, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> > > > > > escreveu: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 13:38, Paulo Motta < > > > pauloricard...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Good call Hans - I guess we should make that point to > > > dev@community > > > > > ? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Would it not be better to point to students@ ? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Also the 'Mailing List' link on that page points to > > > > > > >> https://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html > > > > > > >> which is a general page about how mailing lists operate. Not > what > > > I > > > > > > expected. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> The page needs a bit of TLC. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Also > > > > > > >> > perhaps we should make IRC Channel point to > > > > > > https://the-asf.slack.com/ ? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 10:31, Hans Van Akelyen < > > > > > > >> > hans.van.akel...@gmail.com> escreveu: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > The contact email on the GSoC is mentors@a.o > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2021/organizations/5149287498907648/ > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 14:17, Maxim Solodovnik < > > > > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Afaik there is students@community > > > > > > >> > > > Potential gsoc participants would like to follow > shortest > > > path > > > > > to > > > > > > mentors > > > > > > >> > > > ..... > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 20:11 Paulo Motta < > > > > > pauloricard...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > I wonder why so many students are reaching out to the > > > mentors > > > > > > list > > > > > > >> > > asking > > > > > > >> > > > > for information about GSoC. Perhaps we should create a > > > > > specific > > > > > > list > > > > > > >> > > for > > > > > > >> > > > > GSoC students or maybe make it more explicit that > students > > > > > > should reach > > > > > > >> > > > out > > > > > > >> > > > > to dev@community.apache.org to announce interest in > > > > > > participating or > > > > > > >> > > ask > > > > > > >> > > > > questions about GSoC ? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Paulo > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Em sex., 19 de nov. de 2021 às 03:02, Maxim > Solodovnik < > > > > > > >> > > > > solomax...@gmail.com> > > > > > > >> > > > > escreveu: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hello Suhel, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > mentors@ is the list for mentors, not for students > :) > > > > > > >> > > > > > I can recommend you to check this page: > > > > > > >> > > > > > https://community.apache.org/gsoc.html > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Then find the project you would like to participate > in > > > here: > > > > > > >> > > > > > https://projects.apache.org/projects.html? > > > > > > >> > > > > > language#Java > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Additionally you can search for the GSOC label in > JIRA > > > :) > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Please send any additional questions to the > > > dev@community > > > > > > >> > > mailing-list > > > > > > >> > > > > > or better to the dev@ list of the particular Apache > > > project > > > > > > you > > > > > > >> > > would > > > > > > >> > > > > > like to contribute :) > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > > >> > > > > > > From: Suhel Kapadia > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Cc: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bcc: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 01:58:31 +0530 > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Subject: How to get started with contribution > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Respected Sir/Madam, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I am Suhel Kapadia, a 2nd year CSE undergrad. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I am new to open source contributions but I am > well > > > versed > > > > > > in c and > > > > > > >> > > > > c++. > > > > > > >> > > > > > I also have some experience with javascript and > python. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I would really appreciate it if you could guide > me on > > > how > > > > > > to start > > > > > > >> > > > > > contributing to your organization > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hoping to hear from you soon > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Suhel. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > -- > > > > > > >> > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > >> > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > > dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > > > > > >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > > dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Thanks > > > > - Mohammad Noureldin > > > > ---- > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep > > > moving" > > > > - Albert Einstein > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks > > - Mohammad Noureldin > > ---- > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep > moving" > > - Albert Einstein > > > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > -- Thanks - Mohammad Noureldin ---- "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein
