instead of men is
consistent with this idea, on the grounds that men would rather look at
("sexy") images of women than at images of men.
I won't comment on the content itself. Interpreting any particular image as
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> xml file so removing mark should works in most case).
Ok; but what is your reason for posting about this to debian-women, instead
of having a conversation with the package maintainers?
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e a user arbitrary file I/O.
BTW, not sure why in your script above you are setting /etc/sudoers mode
554. That's setting an executable bit on the file, which serves no purpose;
and makes it world-readable, which is not wanted.
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cowbuilder,
> sbuild/schroot) on your Ubuntu machine should just work fine.
> Cf. e.g.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
Or better yet, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild :)
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no reason you need to be in the
room.
Therefore the logical place for people to sit who don't want to be taped is
"somewhere else". Let's not make it the video team's problem to tape off
areas that are guaranteed to be out of view of the camera, we already do a
fine job meeti
nment.
That doesn't mean that there's not room for a closed, women-only mailing
list, but it does mean that thought must be given to how such a list would
be used as an on-ramp for Debian involvement and not a closed off dead-end.
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uneven outcomes, and it's worth understanding how this might apply to the
problem of gender bias among the population of DDs.
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On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 10:24:51PM +0200, Mònica Ramírez Arceda wrote:
> El dl 25 de 04 de 2011 a les 09:54 -0700, en/na Steve Langasek va
> escriure:
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 06:10:57PM +0200, Mònica Ramírez Arceda wrote:
> > > For me, it's a little bit difficult
to find out what
> to do.
Oh, that's easy then: join the release team! :)
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on our righteous indignation about this behavior, drawing attention
with blogs, etc.
- make it clear that this sexism is an intolerable minority view and that
the majority welcomes involvement in Debian by people of all genders,
making women aware that debian-women exists as a resou
ost effective measures to take.
Are there statistics that show how the number of uploaders vs. the number of
DDs/DMs is progressing across genders, and whether we're doing better or
worse at converting women uploaders into DDs than with men?
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On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:23:25AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 26. August 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > It seems to me that this comment is sexist, and has no place on any Debian
> > mailing list.
> It seemed and seems to me you were trolling here :-(
Yes? Ch
entify
> as having come from a man.
It seems to me that this comment is sexist, and has no place on any Debian
mailing list.
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s that aren't tolerated on debian-women
shouldn't be tolerated on debian-devel either, and I am very concerned that
people not let debian-devel deteriorate on the grounds that debian-women is
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itself - but if it's now leading people to concede the main mailing lists to
people who are behaving inappropriately, I think that's counterproductive.
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On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 11:19:33AM +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
> Steve Langasek schrieb:
> > Presently, there's a good deal of high-quality content in the Debian Women
> > wiki, which is out of sight of the "wiki community" that edits
> > wiki.d
will it be subjected to the unsupervised whims of the sort of people who
think wikis make a good place to hold a conversation?
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l, he certainly doesn't appear to have ever contributed anything else to
Debian.
> I just don't bother to engage at any level with the content of his
> posts because they really don't matter.
I think that's a good choice.
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let my comments get in the way of using his mail as a catalyst
for productive discussion here on this list; though I would ask that you not
forward your message to debian-devel, because I'm afraid I don't think that
would wind up being very productive at all.
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h; then this build failure should go away on its own.
Alternatively, you can set up a chroot build environment (using, e.g., the
pbuilder package) and do your test builds there.
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d "df /tmp" will show
what the mountpoint is for whatever filesystem contains /tmp (probably "/").
I understand the original problem seems to have resolved itself for you,
which is good, because figuring out how to free up space on your root
partition is normally a pain...
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> File not found
[...]
> Failed to fetch
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Perhaps you could show the contents of
/home/reema/azingo_repo/apt/dists/sarge?
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> users based upon gender, race, etc. when possible" sound too forcefull?
Yes. For best results, send patches.
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I mean, I'm sorry that you had a bad experience, but whoever the people on
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> participate in person?
This will be right on the tail end of OSCON here in Portland; maybe I won't
be totally dead that weekend and will be around to help.
BTW, the wiki page doesn't say anything about where the BSP is taking place
-- I assume IRC, but network/
sterone poisoning for a credible
source, that's their problem; there's no reason to lose time trying to
refute the insane when there's real work to be done.
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On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 09:42:39AM +0200, Remi Vanicat wrote:
> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hi folks,
> [...]
> > On the subject of collateral damage: some will point out that tor is a
> > service with legitimate applications, including some that
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 10:08:52AM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> * Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-13 00:31]:
> I strongly disagree with censoring Mails coming from hosts that _also_
> host tor nodes. The host several DDs including me use
> (asteria.debian.or.at) i
don't think hypothetical subscribers are a sensible reason to take on the
administrative burden of hand-emptying a moderation queue.
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Do people think this sounds workable? Have I overlooked any concerns you
have about such an approach, or do you believe there's a better option?
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The best course of action is to just ignore him; but since there are always
new folks joining us on this list (good!), it seems to occasionally be
necessary to post repeat Public Service Announcements like this one (bad).
So: please don't feed the troll.
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t mean only male and it's people like the OP who
> make that argument hard to sustain. Such claims do harm to
> the English language, as well as other relevant causes.
> Please stop.
Please stop dignifying this waste of flesh by holding a conversation with
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I notice that your mail client is configured for Galician. That's great, I
think Debian's Galician translation team to date is a one-person effort. :)
Are you interested in translation work?
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it helps
address problems of equality to stigmatize the vocabulary needed to
describe statistical realities, either.
You just have to avoid conflating "atypical" with *wrong*...
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o hold that this entire discussion, and every
contribution to it, is also unacceptable.
In any case, I would consider it justified, because I believe it's true and
accurate; but not everything that can be justified is ultimately beneficial.
> If a newcomer has no rights to speakup then why
On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 03:45:27AM +0200, Jutta Wrage wrote:
> Am 16.08.2005 um 01:49 schrieb Steve Langasek:
> >This is a misrepresentation of the facts. As it was explained to
> >you at the
> >time, the issues you were experiencing were *not* caused by a lack of
>
x27;t need more people with
attitudes like this.
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the gap between cultures; cultures
themselves are useless for this. Something to think about before trumpeting
the virtues of unconditional respect for cultures...
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 06:43:21PM +0600, || स्वक्ष || svaksha wrote:
> On 8/11/05, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So, hmm, you may be right that this is a strategy that debian-women needs to
> > adopt in order to scale up much beyond its current size; for my p
ard to scale
to a list like debian-devel, so if the desired outcome is that debian-women
is a gateway for getting women involved in the larger Debian community, then
I think it's important that we focus on strategies that *don't* lead to
making debian-women a much more warm-and-fuzzy place th
nothing to stop there
> being a precomposed layout out there, as long as someone has created it.
Er, it takes more than someone creating it -- it takes getting it made part
of the Unicode standard...
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sed layout for
devanagari script; the combinatorics (pairing each possible vowel sign with
each possible consonant character, plus arbitrary numbers of combining forms
for consonant clusters) don't lend themselves to assigning a separate
Unicode codepoint for each combination, and indeed, I don't see any sign of
these combos in Unicode.
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On Fri, Aug 05, 2005 at 11:26:59AM +0200, Amaya wrote:
> Steve Langasek wrote:
> > I don't understand why so many people assume that such a field would
> > be public if it were added.
> Public as opposed to, seen only by DD? Public as opposed to seen only by
> the db a
be a great db for
> harrasers.
I don't understand why so many people assume that such a field would be
public if it were added.
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at this
> would make us enter a kind of grey area where non technical
> information is put in the database.
Isn't mailing address information just as non-technical as a "sex" field
would be, or the oft-requested jpegPhoto field?
I'd rather have a birthdate field anyway,
cerned with; Debian doesn't have the expertise/manpower to
fix all possible Unicode issues in upstream code.
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On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 01:10:46PM +0200, Jutta Wrage wrote:
> Am 30.07.2005 um 10:38 schrieb Steve Langasek:
> >What is not at all obvious, and what IMHO you have not adequately
> >addressed,
> >is why there is anything about "women translators in OSS" that
bian, but this seemed to me to be the logical
> place to do it, where the aims match.
Well, if it's not specific to Debian, that's a fair reason to create a
separate list; but in that case it also sounds to me like lists.debian.org
isn't the most appropriate place for it either.
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ople believing that "free speech" refers to
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been banned).
Two, actually. The work the debian-women project is doing is significant
enough to warrant an *obsession*. Keep up the great work, girls!
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facing women and their involvement in Debian and
> Linux."
Birds-of-(a-)Feather, referring to an informal (but scheduled) gathering at
a conference to discuss a topic of mutual interest; from the expression
"birds of a feather flock together".
Term originated at the USENIX conferenc
ng the install, *and* you have a problem
restoring everything from the backup, it's an even bigger liability issue...
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why that page *shouldn't* include a
link to further explanation of our architecture divisions, though.
I don't think this is the kind of thing that should be replaced with a wiki,
however; *these* pages are ones that we want to be impervious to wikispam...
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Welcome to the least common denominator -- you are here.
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the correct
> > order. Additional autotools will be run by your Makefile after you run
> > ./configure and make.
> Iff you passed --enable-maintainer-mode
No, you only pass --enable-maintainer-mode if you for some reason set
AM_MAINTAINER_MODE in configure.ac, which is certainl
, the release manager at the time agreed
that it made sense to hold documentation to the same standard, but did not
agree that it should be done via GR.
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the quote said "Smile, your husband loves me" and I would gladly
> include both a women and a man oriented quote in these cases. Feel free to
> provide a patch.
Yeah, this conclusion that these fortunes are misogynistic is bizarre to me.
I see a case for considering them offe
er the repo
(which is the hard part of any repository -- committing changes has a
minimal learning curve in all of them), I think her choice should be given
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ach of these other areas from time to time, you can find a
description of this group's actual goals at
<http://women.alioth.debian.org/about/>.
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On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 04:28:33PM +0100, Amaya wrote:
> Steve Langasek wrote:
> > I'd like to propose an "RC bugsquashing tutorial" to coincide with the
> > BSP this weekend.
> Great idea! Keep us updated about it.
> > Also, given the requirement
the NM, because it probes the limits of the NM's abilities instead of
just establishing that they meet the baseline requirements.
I also think the questions would have to be presented in a different way
than they are now in order to have this effect, instead of acting as a
deterrent for NMs
laimed as fixed by the BSP folks, by
the end of Sunday we had reached a record low of 111 RC bugs for sarge.
And, then of course the number immediately started rising again... Eternal
vigilance is the price for free software... :)
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for several hours beyond that, and of course there should be
people around in #debian-bugs all weekend who can help with questions.
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since both debian/rules
and upstream build scripts are likely to be written in this language.
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x27;ll try to pick a time for this that works for everyone interested in
attending, so if you'd like to participate please email me ASAP with times
this weekend when you would be available.
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at loses sight of the goal of getting more women *into Debian*,
which is most definitely not going to have a "normal" gender ratio for some
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On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 07:33:33AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Quoting Erinn Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > * Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:12:15 00:37 -0800]:
> >
> > Tsk, bad form. Quoting from the IRC channel is a major no-no.
> I'm not
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 10:07:57AM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote:
> --- Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> > In a group nominally established in recognition of
> > the fact that women are
> > under-represented in Debian and with the goal of
> > increasing
loney we always get- as soon as women
start advocating for themselves and taking meaningful action, some men get
all whiny and go 'but what about us?'
In a group nominally established in recognition of the fact that women are
under-represented in Debian and with the goal of increasing the
;s strongly preferred for contexts such as debconf templates.
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On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 11:14:32AM +0100, Alex H. S. wrote:
> Don't worry, The url don't have permissin denied
-- works in mozilla, doesn't work using wget.
> El mié, 01-12-2004 a las 06:30, Steve Langasek escribió:
> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 01:04:27AM +0100, Ale
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 01:04:27AM +0100, Alex H. S. wrote:
> If you want, here, you have my russian version:
> http://www.legba.zap3x.com/hello-ru02.wav
This URL seems to give a permission denied error.
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big organisation, but to see
> them as human beings with whom you can talk,
> cooperate, learn and maybe teach, and who knows, maybe
> also becoming part of it.
Are there aspects of Debian's structure and/or culture which you believe
contribute to a feeling of a "big, remo
f
gender, and quite another to be offended that anyone should have an
organization that's gender-specific. Why, exactly, does linuxchix
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x27;free'.
Not really. All of the licenses published by both organizations fail to
live up to the DFSG.
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it on
> linux kernel 1.2.xx, or earlier), but Samba... Samba is not older
> than Windows 95, (which appeared in September 1995) so it has at most
> nine years, if not "only" eight. So...
I don't know where you get this idea. There are copyrights in the Samba
code dating b
x27;t know it would be something I'd recommend it as a starting point
for getting involved in Debian. You at least seem to have picked one of
the less interesting/important tasks listed there, which accounts for
why no one has tackled it yet. ;)
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o give back to the community.
Great! We welcome all contributions (except hot air, which we have
plenty of already). There's no obligation to become a DD at all.
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in today's world, "man" doesn't
> really mean "man and woman". Also, as Akkana said, "they" is actually
> historically correct.
This article would be a great example of why we should not use the term
"man", but does not seem to have any direct relevance to the use of the
pronoun "he".
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ecific suggestions of how to fix it. i'm a fan of the pronoun
> "they" as a gender-neutral 3rd-person singular, but some people insist
> that's ungrammatical.
Most of the people who insist it's ungrammatical should be dying of old
age soon, except for the on
would be fewer obstacles in the way of you getting work done than
for a package maintainer NM.
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 05:17:02PM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote:
> I really like Libranet, 'cause it's Real Debian with a great installer
So you're going to be helping make sure sarge's installer is just as
good, right? :)
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 03:06:57PM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote:
> On Saturday 24 July 2004 2:50 pm, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 12:21:20PM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote:
> > > > I don't care about the supporters page anymore.
> > > &
have sid versions of both perl and libnet-perl installed here without
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lk if they don't have
> anything to say..
Clearly, establishing this separate mailing list has left people out of
touch with how things really work in Debian ;)
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