Hi Melissa, On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 08:18:48PM +1100, Melissa Draper wrote: > Vid Ayer wrote: >> On Jan 12, 2008 12:34 PM, Melissa Draper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> As part of my NY Resolutions, I decided it was time to get more involved >>> in Debian, which involves hanging out in Debian channels more. Apart >>> from rejoining the OFTC Debian channels, I also joined the Freenode ones >>> since they are still the more populous. The channels I joined included >>> #debian-offtopic - a 'secret' channel which they freely redirect >>> offtopic conversation to if they are asked for an offtopic channel.
>> Its better to stick to the debian servers. Freenode is well freenode. >> Even Linuxchix had a similar problem years ago, its practically not >> possible to stop folks from creating channels. At best educate people >> where the correct resources lie, in this case : redirect folks to the >> debian servers. > The Debian community extends beyond OFTC and is in fact 2.5x larger on > Freenode than OFTC. I really wonder what kind of an answer you're looking to get from anyone about this. irc.debian.org points to OFTC. All of the Debian development channels are on OFTC. Debian as a whole has effectively zero oversight on the #debian-* channels on freenode. Debian is a free OS, which means anyone is allowed to use it, including jerks of all shapes and sizes. So I don't know what you would expect Debian to do about this. Surely no one promised you that there are no Debian-using jerks on IRC? For that matter, I can't imagine anyone making assurances about [EMAIL PROTECTED], let alone #debian-offtopic. Maybe the freenode channel has more people in it, but er, evidently this is a case where more != better; and I don't know about anyone else, but speaking for myself I don't feel any great need to either rise to the defense of Debian users on an IRC channel I don't frequent, or attempt to enforce behavior standards on an IRC network that isn't affiliated with Debian. I mean, I'm sorry that you had a bad experience, but whoever the people on those channels are, by and large they're not /my/ Debian community.... -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
