On 13/08/2005, at 9:36 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:
I believe it's also a staple of the Open Source community
that participants must be largely self-actualizing, and that this is a
necessary and desirable element of the culture, so I find it hard to
usefully respond to comments of "I'm here, how
On 13/08/2005, at 8:48 AM, Erinn Clark wrote:
I mean, is this an issue of empowerment (or lack thereof)? I have no
idea how to empower someone who's afraid to take the first step except
to tell them not to be afraid. I don't even know how many people are
listening.
Encouraging people is usefu
नमस्ते स्वक्ष !! :)
(Hello svashka), good to see you posting here again.
Thankyou very much for your appreciation. :) You've made some very
useful points. It really helps to have different points of view,
different ways of saying things. Thankyou. :)
On 12/08/2005, at 10:49 PM, || स्वक्ष
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 06:43:21PM +0600, || स्वक्ष || svaksha wrote:
> On 8/11/05, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So, hmm, you may be right that this is a strategy that debian-women needs to
> > adopt in order to scale up much beyond its current size; for my part,
> > though, that
* || स्वक्ष || svaksha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:08:12 19:19 +0600]:
> On 8/11/05, Erinn Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > So I'm wondering: how do we encourage people who have not expressed an
> > opinion? Is it really safe to cater to people we don't know rather than
>
> For starters,
Thanks, Hannah, for adding FLOSS Asia and FLOSS US to it. I forgot.
B.
Hanna M. Wallach schrieb:
As I understand it, the number is borne out in several studies.
The number comes from the 2002, 2003 and 2004 FLOSS surveys, which
took place in Maastricht [1]_, the US [2]_ and Asia [3]_,
re
Hey,
Here are links the largest surveys on free software developers in 2001/2002:
a) Widi survey carried out by the Technical University of Berlin in 2001
with 1.1 % women online on
http://widi.berlios.de/paper/study.html
b) FLOSS (Free/Libre/Open Source Software) developers´ survey undertake
> As I understand it, the number is borne out in several studies.
The number comes from the 2002, 2003 and 2004 FLOSS surveys, which
took place in Maastricht [1]_, the US [2]_ and Asia [3]_,
respectively. The numbers are:
2002 Maastricht: 1.1% women (~2800 participants)
2003 US: 1.6% women (1493
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Am 12.08.2005 um 13:56 schrieb Gustavo Noronha Silva:
and witnessed some negative reaction to this study on the local
linuxchix group.
Did they think, the number was wrong? Or what was the negative
reaction about?
greetings
Jutta
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I'm copying Bernhard Kreiger to comment on the research that backs up
this number. As I understand it, the number is borne out in several
studies.
Danese
On Aug 12, 2005, at 4:56 AM, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote:
Em Seg, 2005-08-08 às 16:00 -0400, Christine Spang escreveu:
Neat! Looks lik
Hello All !
I have been following this and other threads for some time and at the
outset, kudos to Clytie for taking the time and energy to explain what
she believes in.
On 8/11/05, Erinn Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So I'm wondering: how do we encourage people who have not expressed an
On 8/11/05, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, hmm, you may be right that this is a strategy that debian-women needs to
> adopt in order to scale up much beyond its current size; for my part,
> though, that seems to demand a greater mental commitment than I'm able to
> give for trackin
Em Seg, 2005-08-08 às 16:00 -0400, Christine Spang escreveu:
> Neat! Looks like an article about the session made it into Newsforge[1],
> with both you and DW mentioned. Do we have a press/articles section on
> the site/wiki? Should we?
>
> Keep us in the loop about the Women in Open Source thing.
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:17:49 +0200, Clytie Siddall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 12/08/2005, at 2:36 AM, Erinn Clark wrote:
I think Herman likes to prod things and see if they explode. ;) It's
fun, but you need to stand back and have good life insurance.
Haven't you ever had that urge to
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:33:45 +0200, Herman Robak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
You are better off living with it. Influencing the media to
the point where you have reasonable control is a lot of work!
Spending more effort on self-publishing is probably better.
Reading Javier's excellent pos
On 8/12/05, Clytie Siddall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think Herman likes to prod things and see if they explode. ;) It's
> fun, but you need to stand back and have good life insurance.
>
> Haven't you ever had that urge to stand up and shout "Fire!" in a
> crowded, dark film theatre? Or to pu
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:50:30 +0200, Herman Robak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:13:59 +0200, Clytie Siddall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Geeks Want Women" Pleeease. :( The last thing we want is anyone
thinking we're running a lonely hearts club.
It's a headline. A
On 8/12/05, Clytie Siddall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Should we write to them, do you think? I don't have much experience
> with the media, but there's a member on the Volunteers Linuxchix list
> who has a lot. Does it work to write in on occasions like this?
Write to them respectfully, addressi
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:13:59 +0200, Clytie Siddall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"Geeks Want Women" Pleeease. :( The last thing we want is anyone
thinking we're running a lonely hearts club.
It's a headline. At least it's truthful.
The media do more harm than good these days. Live with
On 12/08/2005, at 2:36 AM, Erinn Clark wrote:
Although I find the title "Geeks Want Women" rather off-putting."
Do you prefer gay geeks?
*ducking*
What is wrong with you?
I think Herman likes to prod things and see if they explode. ;) It's
fun, but you need to stand back and have go
On 12/08/2005, at 2:02 AM, Danese Cooper wrote:
"And here's one from TechWorld:
http://www.techworld.com/applications/news/index.cfm?NewsID=4182
Although I find the title "Geeks Want Women" rather off-putting."
Yuk :(
Should we write to them, do you think? I don't have much experience
wi
I'll try to answer this. I do find long posts difficult to
understand, so please allow for confusion.
On 12/08/2005, at 12:10 AM, Erinn Clark wrote:
Well, one thing you fail to recognize is that there is a difficult
balance to maintain.
No, I do realize that. That's why I joined in the dis
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