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Le lundi 23 janvier 2006 à 01:45 +0200, Anton Zinoviev a écrit :
> GNU Free Documentation License protects the freedom,
> it is compatible with Debian Free Software Guidelines
And I thought Debian politics stayed away from populism...
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#x27;t require 3:1 supermajority. As
currently, no sane interpretation of the DFSG can lead to such
statements, especially for A), we would have to modify the DFSG to fit
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und a second person to think the change wasn't
editorial !
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Le jeudi 09 février 2006 à 11:12 +0100, Xavier Roche a écrit :
> Maybe we could suggest another "editorial change" and revert to the
> previous wording (not everything is software)
This has already been voted. And the answer was "no".
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was held with options to *entirely revoke* GR 2004-03 (the
> "editorial" one).
This was necessary only because the release manager believed the changes
to be non-editorial. I cannot even understand an interpretation of the
old wording that can lead us to accept non-free document
Le jeudi 09 février 2006 à 23:19 +0100, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
> On Feb 09, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > This was necessary only because the release manager believed the changes
> > to be non-editorial. I cannot even understand an interpretatio
> is unpack and copy make sources is deemed free, I would be, err,
> grateful.
Don't be so stubborn. This could be easily worked around by making GFDL
works depend on a package containing a rootkit. This way, their
installation would always comply with the license.
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words. The result is that you cannot
distribute the work as a reference card. You cannot distribute a CD with
excerpts from the documentation printed on it. You cannot sell a T-shirt
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t; I'll let people more familiar with the current state of Debian-Ubuntu
> come up with ideas for change.
What exactly are you trying to say?
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utstanding failure for a team you are part of?
These questions may sound harsh and you may feel they don't concern you
directly, but I'd like honest answers to those you can answer to.
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Le mardi 28 février 2006 à 23:39 +0100, martin f krafft a écrit :
> also sprach Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.02.28.2206 +0100]:
> > 4. As a member of the FTP team, do you have any explanations about
> > the amd64 fiasco, and why we should vote
for the Release Manager position?
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improve, but not how you would
do it.
3. What criteria would you use to distribute resources to
developers, and to ensure they would be spent in a productive
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necessarily correlated with contempt. Getting things done is one thing,
and being rude is sometimes a way to get things done, but ignoring other
developers' opinion in a decision process is another one.
> [snip]
Above all, I appreciate that you have answered honestly to these
mail that
> didn't get a reply until Joey followed up to it a month later?
Yes. Delays in replying for people at a key position like ftpmaster are
not acceptable.
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restrict access or use of the software
itself."
Since this modifies the DFSG, this requires a 3:1 majority to pass.
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d with it in main as a
temporary measure".
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Le jeudi 06 avril 2006 à 09:50 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit :
> Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > At the end of DFSG #2, the following text should be added:
> > "The license may restrict distribution to some kinds of media if
> &
can state that pi=3, and if it passes, the fact that has been
accepted shall prove a GR could state such a thing?
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and the package is free. It's not like we've run out of
> software to package :-)
Now, please re-read Manoj's email and think again about what you've
written.
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FSG-free, but the current architecture of the archive doesn't allow us
to obey this clause. The DFSG shouldn't restrict software we can't
distribute because of how we distribute them.
As the two options are valid, I'd like both of them to appear on the
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a bit too sarcastic.
Manoj has explained the GR's result is pragmatic, as the GFDL without
invariant sections is in the process of being fixed. This implies the
spirit of that choice is "they have promised to fix that, so let's say
it's OK for the moment".
You are recomme
code to
> remove the spyware.
This clause is the least necessary one to make the GFDL free. This is
almost the same text as in the GFDL itself.
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ct leader, and as such your are partly responsible for
the image of the project. I don't want (and I hope I'm not the only one)
the project to be associated with your deliberately obnoxious behaviour.
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will not be required until we have the technical means
to split them out in a convenient way for our users.
(Not perfect either :/ )
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lit out firmwares, as the maintainer would then
(theoretically) be forced to accept the patch.
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way? When you
believe a commend on a list has no merit, you explicitly ask other
people to ignore it, based on a stupid DD/non-DD segregation instead of
the merits of the comment.
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d d-i are able to use split out
firmwares, the migration will have to be done. This way we won't
discourage the work from Nathanael Nerode and other people who worked
hard so far to remove the non-free blobs, and we won't hold etch
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: most of us do not mind at all distributing sourceless
> (or even not modifiable) firmwares in the kernel packages.
Please, let's not argue about what people think. There is a vote for
that.
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t; > found a solution to the problem.
>
> I wish that I had your mind-reading capabilities.
It looks like you would be amazed by the number of things which are
possible without any super-powers.
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result to propose a drastic change for future
releases is nothing more than manipulation.
I ask you again to stop that kind of maneuvers. If your passion is
politics, you should consider joining a political party. Debian isn't
the right place for that.
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rmware from non-free archive, which conforms to
>all Debian Free Software Guidelines except guideline 2 (Source Code).
Which would sound almost exactly like the amendment I already proposed.
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sarge also has these firmwares. If we release etch
ASAP, we have something that is much more free.
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A proposal for the one-line summary:
* DFSG#2 doesn't apply to data, special exception for firmwares in
kernel packages
(I think the secretary should choose the final wording anyway so that
the ballot looks consistent.)
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> From: Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: Sa
lowed by our Constitution (section 4.1.1) and am seeking seconds
> for this proposal.
Seconded.
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Le jeudi 21 septembre 2006 à 00:15 +0100, Stephen Gran a écrit :
> So, just to be clear, you want to punish a Debian developer for their
> activities outside of Debian?
Have you only *read* the rationale?
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Le mercredi 20 septembre 2006 à 23:30 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit :
> Le mercredi 20 septembre 2006 à 19:43 +0200, Denis Barbier a écrit :
> > But we, Debian developers, can make this confusion vanish, and I
> > would like to propose that we answer to the valid question qu
Le jeudi 21 septembre 2006 à 16:00 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit :
> Le mercredi 20 septembre 2006 à 23:30 +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit :
> > Le mercredi 20 septembre 2006 à 19:43 +0200, Denis Barbier a écrit :
> > > But we, Debian developers, can make this confusion vanish,
Le jeudi 21 septembre 2006 à 15:09 +0100, Matthew Garrett a écrit :
> "I'm withdrawing my support because the developers might agree with AJ
> rather than me"? Come on.
Or maybe I'm withdrawing my support because I'm busy with my chainsaw.
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Le jeudi 21 septembre 2006 à 23:43 +0200, Loïc Minier a écrit :
> Obviously, some people jumped on the occasion because they dislike aj.
There's some difference between "not liking aj" and "thinking aj is
hurting the project to the point he should be recalled".
-
Le samedi 23 septembre 2006 à 22:03 +0200, martin f krafft a écrit :
> Fortunately, nobody is talking about employing release managers.
Oh yes, we are.
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ot;.
If you want firmwares to be accepted for etch and not after, you vote 3,
full stop. 1 is only reaffirming the current situation, implying a delay
in the release.
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Manoj, is there anything preventing to start the vote right now?
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[needs 3:1]
[ 4 ] further discussion
with the separate ballot you are proposing?
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'm nitpicking, but isn't this whole thread about nitpicking? ;)
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the general resolutions
> resolved.
I'm sure this is the intention, but IMO this discussion is turning into
paramecia hair-splitting with an axe.
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I don't like the plethora of proposals that come up on -vote these days,
but Loïc's proposed GR doesn't look acceptable to me.
The text of the proposal is attached.
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;t see anything
preventing this in the constitution, and having it in a single ballot
would make things clearer.
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ing to reword the proposal until Don's GR is accepted. If
it is, it will of course not make much sense to keep it this way.
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ct leader. However, it neither endorses nor supports
> any projects that Mr Towns may lead or participate in outside
> Debian.
> --- snip here ---
Indeed, sorry for the bad English of the proposal. I accept this new
wording if the seconders follow
uot;do not recall"? I'm afraid I missed something.
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> [ ] Re-affirm DPL; do not endorse nor support his other projects
> [ ] Further discussion
>
> I'm attaching the proposed WML page for this vote (vote_006.wml).
I agree with the call for vote, the proposed ballot and the WML page.
could even - although very hypothetically - be done for etch if
someone did all the required work.
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hair of the Package Policy Committee and the Debian
> Project Leader.
>
> [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/10/msg00233.html
> [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg00017.html
> [3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/10/msg00238.html
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e samedi 10 février 2007 à 13:05 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit :
> Personally, I don't like either of the checks, but I've seen zero
> effort from Aurelian and friends to demonstrate they can be trusted,
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Le dimanche 11 février 2007 à 04:24 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa a écrit :
> Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> Personally, I don't like either of the checks, but I've seen zero
> >> effort from Aurelian and friends to demonstrate they can be trusted,
&
Le lundi 12 février 2007 à 19:35 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit :
> > There are different levels of trusting. One can think that no DD
> > would introduce malware in the archive and anyway could think also that
> > some
> > developers are not good for certain tasks because of attitude/lack of
> >
Le vendredi 16 février 2007 à 01:27 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit :
> (If there's something more than the general comments Frank made,
> I'm still not seeing it. TTBOMK, the non-free and experimental builds
> aren't at all integrated with the buildd.d.o stuff, and there's been
> no particular intere
Le mardi 27 février 2007 à 18:36 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit :
> I'd rather see a Dunc-Tank report (and criticism and
> analysis of that) before thinking more about it.
Aren't you the one supposed to write it?
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Le mardi 27 février 2007 à 13:45 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa a écrit :
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I absolutely don't like the implications of that assertion.
>
> Well, if an entity A feels that they would benefit from paying a DD
> for his Debian work, they have two choices:
>
>
Hi,
I'd like to ask Anthony and Steve what they think of how they handled
the conflict between Frans Pop and Sven Luther, and other candidates how
they would have handled this conflict.
To everyone: how would you avoid such situations to become this
problematic in the future?
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Le vendredi 02 mars 2007 à 03:04 -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> Which release-critical bug will each of you fix in order to convince me to
> vote for you? :)
Is this offer valid for non-candidates to make you vote for the
candidate of their choice?
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Le dimanche 04 mars 2007 à 18:13 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit :
> Yup, though that shouldn't be much of a challenge. The other problem
> is that the list doesn't seem active, so it's not incredibly clear that
> people are actively maintaining the port.
The number of patches submitted for this port
Le dimanche 04 mars 2007 à 10:21 +0100, Andreas Barth a écrit :
> I hope you realize that your blog posts were one of the reasons why I
> reduced the time I spend on the release dramatically. It is just
> frustrating if people try to destroy the work you are doing.
I hope you realize Sam's blog po
Le lundi 05 mars 2007 à 14:52 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa a écrit :
> Criticise, yes. Mock, no.
If I understand your opinion, Greg Folkert's way of criticising people
is acceptable, while Sam's is not. Is that correct?
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Le lundi 05 mars 2007 à 13:58 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa a écrit :
> This attitude is the very single one that I absolutely hate in
> volunteer organizations. Why should you get mocked for doing things
> you like with no compensation? What moral right do the mockers have?
I'm getting pissed off by this
Le lundi 05 mars 2007 à 01:16 -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 10:25:24AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > I hope you realize Sam's blog posts were one of the reasons why I was
> > able to keep up the time I spend on Debian. It is just so much bett
Le lundi 05 mars 2007 à 15:05 +0200, Kalle Kivimaa a écrit :
> Well, if *I* get compensated enough, I'm willing to be mocked :) So
> yes, I find it somewhat more acceptable.
>
> As a semi-RL example, I've been thinking about a game fee for sports
> officials: travel costs plus 20 euros per each in
Le jeudi 15 mars 2007 à 19:43 +0200, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
> I've tried not participating or reading lists with large flame contents:
> for significant parts of 2006 I did not read -devel and -project (for
> instance). The result was that you're cut off from any sense of what the
> project is do
Le jeudi 15 mars 2007 à 22:10 +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> My biggest technical contributions over the last year are:
>
> - the management of the Python transition and the
> development/fixing/modifications of the
> corresponding dh_{python,pycentral,pysupport} scripts.
> http://lists.
Le jeudi 15 mars 2007 à 23:04 +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > Uuuh which part do you refer to ?
>
> The part that I did and that nobody else was willing to do. Discuss with
> Josselin and Doko so that we actually have gone forward even if it has
Le jeudi 15 mars 2007 à 23:29 +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> For readers who are interested in a more neutral point of view, I invite
> them to read the archives of debian-python during the month of june:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2006/06/threads.html
I don't think you make a goo
Le jeudi 15 mars 2007 à 15:19 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> Many of us probably missed the humor because of the missing disclaimer
> explaining "ha-ha, this was only a joke, I don't really think we should have
> flamewars despite the fact that I'm frequently a rude jerk to others in the
> proje
Le vendredi 16 mars 2007 à 08:35 +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> While there are other problems than the
> invariant section, it was really the biggest problem and the others
> will probably disappear with the next GFDL update AFAIK.
That's good news to hear. I've not followed the GFDL affair r
Le vendredi 16 mars 2007 à 10:27 +, MJ Ray a écrit :
> It's sort of disappointing how much less trouble I've had since adding such
> disclaimers to the end of emails containing jokes. There seem to be far too
> many starched attitudes around.
Ah, thanks. I was looking for a translation of the
Le mercredi 30 mai 2007 à 11:50 +0100, MJ Ray a écrit :
> 1. Sven Luther is suspended from all debian lists for a year, which
> should be similar to (b), because the project generally liked his
> two-month self-suspension and wishes not to receive his discussion
> contributions at the moment.
>
>
Le jeudi 31 mai 2007 à 11:03 +, Cord Beermann a écrit :
> politically... we don't want to be list police. we don't speak enough
> languages and don't have the time to do that.
>
> We run the lists, we have more enough to do to keep the spam level
> low.
>
> So the step-in and adding a ban on
Le vendredi 01 juin 2007 à 14:26 +0100, Ian Jackson a écrit :
> Unfortunately the project doesn't have any way of dealing with my
> alleged misbehaviour short of expelling me. Oh, damn, I'm plugging my
> social committee proposal again.
If I understand correctly, you want the project to choose a
Le jeudi 07 juin 2007 à 18:49 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
> >If not, stop trolling.
> Accusing people who oppose your views of "trolling" shows lack of
> dialectic skills.
I have a hard finding another word to describe someone calling people
not sharing his views a "revisionist".
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Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 21:48 +0200, gregor herrmann a écrit :
> I don't see a contradiction here; on the contrary I can imagine that
> DMs take some work off the shoulders of DDs in teams.
I fail to see how. More pet packages mean more work for transitions, for
the release team, for other main
Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 16:20 +0200, Loïc Minier a écrit :
> But what if this results in higher quality packages than the one of
> overly busy DDs (because the maintainers are very focused on their pet
> packages)? Did you think of this consequence?
If someone can make such packages, he sho
Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 18:34 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > If someone doesn't want to be a DD because the NM process is broken
>
> I haven't said that. Previous discussions gave examples of people who don't
&
Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 17:52 +0200, Loïc Minier a écrit :
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > > If someone can make such packages, he should become a DD, full stop.
> > > Don't bother replying if you don't read the thread.
> > Than
Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 16:30 +0200, Loïc Minier a écrit :
> So are you saying that an unexpected consequence of the Debian
> maintainers uploading their packages alone could be that the Debian
> sponsors would have to look for different packages to sponsor?
Yay, even more crap in the archiv
Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 17:03 +0200, Loïc Minier a écrit :
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > If someone can make such packages, he should become a DD, full stop.
>
> Don't bother replying if you don't read the thread.
Thanks for your concern,
Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 19:07 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> Well, for the record, I haven't appreciated Loïc's rhetorical questions.
> But he clearly signed "rhetorical" and only Joss felt the need to fell in
> the trap of replying.
What exactly makes you think this wasn't only intentional
Le samedi 28 juillet 2007 à 19:55 +0100, Matthew Garrett a écrit :
> Sure, "Don't quit Debian then" is a valid response (though I'm perhaps
> old-fashioned in terms of thinking that as a full member of an
> organisation I have a duty to participate in its democratic process,
> which I'm not enth
Le lundi 30 juillet 2007 à 20:22 +1000, Anthony Towns a écrit :
> The only way I can see for anyone without ftpmaster privileges to
> implement it, GR or not, is by automatically re-signing uploads from
> DMs with their own keys, which doesn't sound terribly ideal to me.
That hasn't prevented some
Le samedi 04 août 2007 à 12:27 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> That's because you only take into account controversial GR. Not all GR
> need to be controversial. Sometimes I'm tempted to use GRs to try have some
> official position statements from Debian on some topics.
And this is what GRs are
On ven, 2008-02-15 at 15:50 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> I'm not so sure this is an off-by-one *error*; for example, when simple
> majority is required, then a strict 50% against vs 50% in favour result
> should result in the status quo being kept. A simple majority thus needs
> to say "*more* t
On ven, 2008-02-15 at 22:49 +0100, Bas Wijnen wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 10:09:57PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > On ven, 2008-02-15 at 15:50 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > Having said that, I agree with you that it makes sense for the TC to not
> > >
Le lundi 10 mars 2008 à 09:21 +0100, Andreas Barth a écrit :
> * Anthony Towns ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080310 03:49]:
> > The idea is to encourage DPLs to appoint two new members during their
> > term, so we get new blood in the committee, and people don't get stuck in
> > the committee until they eve
On jeu, 2008-03-27 at 19:06 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> The main symptom of the TC's brokenness is that it is not making
> decisions, or not making them fast enough. I haven't heard anyone
> suggest that the TC is actually making wrong decisions.
Even the glibc maintainers?
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Le vendredi 19 septembre 2008 à 11:45 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> I'd hope the FSF actually specializes in writing software, rather than
> making statements. However, writing Free Software is not possible unless
> there is a healthy community around it; the FSF thus takes a leading
> role an
Le jeudi 23 octobre 2008 à 16:08 +0200, Robert Millan a écrit :
> On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 08:36:24AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Your lack of knowledge of Debian processes sucks (that means: you
> > annoy us (at least me) with your stance and the fanatic way you defend it
> > in public, pleas
Le vendredi 24 octobre 2008 à 18:40 +0200, Thomas Viehmann a écrit :
> ---
> The Debian project, recognizing that bugs do not fix themselves,
> applauds Ben Hutchings's efforts to remove non-DFSG-conformant bits from
> the linux-2.6 package in a way that is still making users a priority. It
Le samedi 25 octobre 2008 à 20:26 +0200, Robert Millan a écrit :
> I'd appreciate if you don't use a GR procedure for that, though, it makes us
> look like a bunch of clowns.
> it makes us look like a bunch of clowns.
> look like a bunch of clowns
> a bunch of clowns
> clowns
> --
> Robert Mi
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