On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 09:29:07AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Given that Friday was Autism Awareness Day, it might be worth noting that
> RMS is clearly "on the spectrum" - and well known since the days he slept in
> his office at MIT (my student days).
>
> Why is it that nobody ever gives him
On 05/04/2021 16:29, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given that Friday was Autism Awareness Day, it might be worth noting
that RMS is clearly "on the spectrum" - and well known since the days
he slept in his office at MIT (my student days).
I am a father to a child diagnosed with ASD (Autistic Spectru
Someone privately made me realize that what I wrote is probably not nice
to read for autistic people. It was not my intention to hurt anyone, and
I have nothing against autistic people, who in some cases, are capable
of being leaders.
On 4/5/21 4:12 PM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Whether RMS ha
Le lundi 05 avril 2021 à 16:04:58+0200, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
> On 4/5/21 3:29 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> > Given that Friday was Autism Awareness Day, it might be worth noting
> > that RMS is clearly "on the spectrum" - and well known since the days he
> > slept in his office at MIT (my studen
On 4/5/21 3:29 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Given that Friday was Autism Awareness Day, it might be worth noting
> that RMS is clearly "on the spectrum" - and well known since the days he
> slept in his office at MIT (my student days).
>
> Why is it that nobody ever gives him any leeway for that?
Given that Friday was Autism Awareness Day, it might be worth noting
that RMS is clearly "on the spectrum" - and well known since the days he
slept in his office at MIT (my student days).
Why is it that nobody ever gives him any leeway for that?
Miles Fidelman
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On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 07:30:58PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Ah I see!
>
> Thanks for this.
>
> I think your interpretation is the most relevant one for now but indeed
> there is some place here for improvements.
>
> I intend to propose a Constitution change taking into account the se
Le vendredi 02 avril 2021 à 19:26:06+0200, Kurt Roeckx a écrit :
> On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 07:15:32PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> > Le vendredi 02 avril 2021 à 08:56:33+0200, Kurt Roeckx a écrit :
> > > On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 09:11:29PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > > Phil Morrell wri
Kurt Roeckx writes:
> This is part where the constitution is really hard to parse, and it's
> something I've struggled with for a long time. The terms are used in
> conflicting ways. I hope someone will take the time to fix this.
Yeah, my apologies, I was going to fix this after the systemd GR a
On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 07:15:32PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le vendredi 02 avril 2021 à 08:56:33+0200, Kurt Roeckx a écrit :
> > On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 09:11:29PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > Phil Morrell writes:
> > >
> > > > Do the additional proposals made in that week mean th
Le vendredi 02 avril 2021 à 08:56:33+0200, Kurt Roeckx a écrit :
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 09:11:29PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > Phil Morrell writes:
> >
> > > Do the additional proposals made in that week mean the discussion period
> > > has automatically been extended? Is the Secretary simp
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 09:11:29PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Phil Morrell writes:
>
> > Do the additional proposals made in that week mean the discussion period
> > has automatically been extended? Is the Secretary simply being pragmatic
> > here, executing discretion before announcing the sta
Phil Morrell writes:
> Do the additional proposals made in that week mean the discussion period
> has automatically been extended? Is the Secretary simply being pragmatic
> here, executing discretion before announcing the start of the voting
> period? Or perhaps the DPL has likely requested anoth
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 21:29:27 +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> The option is now on the website.
Hi, I was wondering if anyone would mind explaining a point of procedure
to me here. I understand that the discussion period is normally 2 weeks,
and that the DPL confirmed a request to reduce it to 1 week
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021, Niels Thykier wrote:
> Assuming that the letter from https://rms-support-letter.github.io/ is
> signed by Debian, could we please have clarified up front how the above
There are evidently some who wish that there was more up front clarity
about https://rms-open-letter.github.io
The option is now on the website.
Kurt
Hi,
> Hi,
>
> I hereby propose to have another option on the ballot:
>
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project co-signs the statement regarding Richard Stallman's
> readmission to the FSF board seen at https://rms-support-letter.github.io/.
> The text of this statement is given below.
>
>
On Friday, 26 March 2021 7:12:09 PM AEDT Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I hereby propose to have another option on the ballot:
>
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project co-signs the statement regarding Richard Stallman's
> readmission to the FSF board seen at
> https://rms-support-letter.githu
On Friday, 26 March 2021 7:12:09 PM AEDT Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I hereby propose to have another option on the ballot:
>
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project co-signs the statement regarding Richard Stallman's
> readmission to the FSF board seen at https://rms-support-letter.githu
On Saturday, 27 March 2021 9:51:40 PM AEDT Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> Updated text:
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
> Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
>
> Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 09:12:09AM +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project co-signs the statement regarding Richard Stallman's
> readmission to the FSF board seen at https://rms-support-letter.github.io/.
> The text of this statement is given below.
>
> Richard M
seconded
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 09:12:09AM +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project co-signs the statement regarding Richard Stallman's
> readmission to the FSF board seen at https://rms-support-letter.github.io/.
> The text of this statement is given below.
>
>
Bart Martens a écrit le 28/03/2021 à 10:40 :
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 11:51:40AM +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
Updated text:
---8<---8<---8<---
The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
Any individual (in
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 11:51:40AM +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> Updated text:
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
> Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
>
> Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (
* Steve Langasek: " Re: "rms-open-letter" choice 3: do not, as the project
itself, sign any letter regarding rms" (Sat, 27 Mar 2021 12:37:52 -0700):
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 12:20:22PM +0100, Mathias Behrle wrote:
> > > > Language quip: Not "invited
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 12:20:22PM +0100, Mathias Behrle wrote:
> > > Language quip: Not "invited to do this in person" (personally flying
> > > to wherever signatures are being gathered), but "in a personal
> > > capacity" or "as an individual action"... ?
> > I think the intention was clear, b
On March 27, 2021 7:15:39 PM GMT+05:30, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
>Hi
>
>On 27.03.21 14:01, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 01:56:08PM +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
>>> 27.03.21 13:03 Kurt Roeckx:
I've added this option on the website. I'm still processing emails.
Note t
Hi!
On 2021-03-27 at 11:51 (+01), Timo Weingärtner wrote:
[...]
> Updated text:
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
> Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
>
> Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (
On 3/27/21 9:01 AM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 01:56:08PM +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
>> Hallo Kurt Roeckx,
>>
>> 27.03.21 13:03 Kurt Roeckx:
>>> I've added this option on the website. I'm still processing emails.
>>>
>>> Note that it's my interpretation that if changes are acc
On 3/27/21 6:51 AM, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
>
> Updated text:
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
> Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
>
> Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign any of the
Hi
On 27.03.21 14:01, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 01:56:08PM +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
27.03.21 13:03 Kurt Roeckx:
I've added this option on the website. I'm still processing emails.
Note that it's my interpretation that if changes are accepts that
there is no need to seco
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 01:56:08PM +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> Hallo Kurt Roeckx,
>
> 27.03.21 13:03 Kurt Roeckx:
> > I've added this option on the website. I'm still processing emails.
> >
> > Note that it's my interpretation that if changes are accepts that
> > there is no need to second i
Hallo Kurt Roeckx,
27.03.21 13:03 Kurt Roeckx:
> I've added this option on the website. I'm still processing emails.
>
> Note that it's my interpretation that if changes are accepts that
> there is no need to second it again. If you don't agree with the
> changes need to say so, and which point a
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On 3/27/21 6:51 AM, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
>
> Updated text:
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
> Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
>
> Any individual (includi
I've added this option on the website. I'm still processing emails.
Note that it's my interpretation that if changes are accepts that
there is no need to second it again. If you don't agree with the
changes need to say so, and which point and become the proposer of
a new option and need to look f
Timo Weingärtner:
Updated text:
---8<---8<---8<---
The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign any of the open
letters on this subject is invit
Quoting Timo Weingärtner (2021-03-27 11:51:40)
> 26.03.21 20:42 Jonas Smedegaard:
> > Quoting Calum McConnell (2021-03-26 20:14:50)
> > > > Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign
> > > > any of the open letters in question is invited to do this in
> > > > person.
> > >
>
* Timo Weingärtner: " Re: "rms-open-letter" choice 3: do not, as the project
itself, sign any letter regarding rms" (Sat, 27 Mar 2021 11:51:40 +0100):
> Hallo Jonas,
>
> 26.03.21 20:42 Jonas Smedegaard:
> > Quoting Calum McConnell (2021-03-26 20:14:50)
>
* Michael Biebl: " Re: "rms-open-letter" choice 3: do not, as the project
itself, sign any letter regarding rms" (Sat, 27 Mar 2021 10:39:53 +0100):
> Am 27.03.2021 um 01:48 schrieb Gunnar Wolf:
> > Michael Biebl dijo [Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 06:08:36PM +0100]:
>
Hallo Jonas,
26.03.21 20:42 Jonas Smedegaard:
> Quoting Calum McConnell (2021-03-26 20:14:50)
>
> > > Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign any
> > > of the open letters in question is invited to do this in person.
> >
> > "In person" is a bit unclear, given our times: c
Hi Gunnar
Am 27.03.2021 um 01:48 schrieb Gunnar Wolf:
Michael Biebl dijo [Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 06:08:36PM +0100]:
---8<---8<---8<---
The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
Any individual (including De
Hi Gunnar!
On 2021-03-26 at 18:48 (-06), Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Michael Biebl dijo [Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 06:08:36PM +0100]:
>> ---8<---8<---8<---
>> The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
>> Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
>>
>> Any indi
Michael Biebl dijo [Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 06:08:36PM +0100]:
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
> Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
>
> Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign any of the
>
Hi!
On 2021-03-26 at 14:36 (+01), Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> Updated text:
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
> Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
>
> Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign
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On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 02:36:40PM +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Updated text:
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
> Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
>
Quoting Calum McConnell (2021-03-26 20:14:50)
> > Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign any
> > of the open letters in question is invited to do this in person.
>
> "In person" is a bit unclear, given our times: can I sign it online?
> How about just adding my name?
>
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> Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign any of
> the open
> letters in question is invited to do this in person.
"In person" is a bit unclear, given our times: can I sign it online? How
about just adding my name?
I propose switching it to:
> Any individual (including D
---8<---8<---8<---
The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign any of the open
letters in question is invited to do this in person.
---8<---8<---
Michael Biebl a écrit le 26/03/2021 à 18:08 :
---8<---8<---8<---
The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign any of
the open letters in questio
Hi Timo,
Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> I hereby propose to have another option on the ballot:
Thanks a lot for this!
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project co-signs the statement regarding Richard Stallman's
> readmission to the FSF board seen at https://rms-support-letter.github.io/.
> The tex
Hi,
Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> Updated text:
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
> Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
>
> Any individual (including Debian members) is free to issue such statements or
> (co-)sign
---8<---8<---8<---
The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign any of
the open letters in question is invited to do this in person.
---8<---8<-
Quoting Timo Weingärtner (2021-03-26 14:36:40)
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
> Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
>
> Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign any of the
> open
> lett
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On 3/26/21 9:36 AM, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Updated text:
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
> Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
>
> Any individual (i
Hi,
Updated text:
---8<---8<---8<---
The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
Any individual (including Debian members) wishing to (co-)sign any of the open
letters in question is invited to do this in pe
Em 26/03/2021 07:24, Jonas Smedegaard escreveu:
Seconded - on the condition that Timo Weingärtner replaces his previous
proposal with one one including above edit.
- Jonas
Same here!
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Le vendredi 26 mars 2021 à 11:24:10+0100, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
> Quoting Mathias Behrle (2021-03-26 10:40:55)
> > * Timo Weingärtner: " Re: "rms-open-letter" choice 3: do not, as the project
> > itself, sign any letter regarding rms" (Fri, 26 Mar 202
Quoting Mathias Behrle (2021-03-26 10:40:55)
> * Timo Weingärtner: " Re: "rms-open-letter" choice 3: do not, as the project
> itself, sign any letter regarding rms" (Fri, 26 Mar 2021 09:19:44 +0100):
>
> > Hallo Martin Michlmayr,
> >
> >
* Timo Weingärtner: " Re: "rms-open-letter" choice 3: do not, as the project
itself, sign any letter regarding rms" (Fri, 26 Mar 2021 09:19:44 +0100):
> Hallo Martin Michlmayr,
>
> 26.03.21 09:15 Martin Michlmayr:
> > * Timo Weingärtner [2021-03-26 09:1
Quoting Timo Weingärtner (2021-03-26 09:19:44)
> Hallo Martin Michlmayr,
>
> 26.03.21 09:15 Martin Michlmayr:
> > * Timo Weingärtner [2021-03-26 09:12]:
> > > The Debian Project will issue a public statement on whether Richard
> > > Stallman
> > ^^
> > I think you forgot t
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 03:34:22AM -0500, Richard Laager wrote:
> > ---8<---8<---8<---
> > The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
> > Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
> >
> > Any individual (including Debian members) is free to issue suc
On 3/26/21 3:19 AM, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
---8<---8<---8<---
The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether Richard
Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
Any individual (including Debian members) is free to issue such statements or
(co-)sign any open let
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On Fri, 2021-03-26 at 09:19 +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> Updated text:
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project will not issue a public statement on whether
> Richard
> Stallman should be removed from leadership positions or not.
>
> Any indiv
Hallo Martin Michlmayr,
26.03.21 09:15 Martin Michlmayr:
> * Timo Weingärtner [2021-03-26 09:12]:
> > The Debian Project will issue a public statement on whether Richard
> > Stallman
> ^^
> I think you forgot the word "not" here.
Of course, thanks.
Updated text:
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On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 09:12:17AM +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I hereby propose to have another option on the ballot:
>
> ---8<---8<---8<---
> The Debian Project will issue a public statement on whether Richard Stallman
"will not"?
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* Timo Weingärtner [2021-03-26 09:12]:
> The Debian Project will issue a public statement on whether Richard Stallman
^^
I think you forgot the word "not" here.
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