be a valid GR proposal,
> > AIUI. All I meant was that I second the feeling, rather than a formal
> > proposal.
>
> We're having a serious discussion, and you guys are adding noise.
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, the questions don't seem much closer to
> resolution.
If you can't understand the "Please postpone the bikeshedding after the
lenny release so that you'll have proper answers"-bit then I can nothing
for you.
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On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 04:13:37PM +, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:00:26PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > > > As to the people who emailed me that the
and whether I should save you the bother or an
> > expulsion process.
>
> I would just like to go on record that if Manoj is expelled from the project
> due to the recent events, then I will resign. Fortunately, it seems that it
> won't be necessary.
H
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 08:28:19PM +, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 09:58:09AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > from http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_007#majorityreq
> >4. We give priority to the timely release of Etch over sorting every
> >
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 03:49:14PM +, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> - "Pierre Habouzit" wrote:
>
> > The point is, the secretary chooses interpretations that suits his own
> > proposals to the vote. Explain to me how the "release lenny" options
> >
enting any of that work to be done.
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mber 2008);
4. We give priority to the timely release of Lenny over sorting
every bit out; for this reason, we will treat removal of
sourceless firmware as a best-effort process, and deliver
firmware as part of Debian Lenny as long as we are legally
allo
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:33:27PM +, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>
> > > Boycotting is unlikely to prevent all ballot options from reaching the
> >
> > Yeah Boycotting is silly, that's why I've voted for FD fir
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 08:14:34PM +, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 08:49:10PM +0900, Paul Wise wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Pierre Habouzit
> > wrote:
> > > This vote is nonsensical, and I'm hereby calling people to rank FD first
r options below, and the other half of voters for option3 and
option4 (and everything else below), then option4 passes over option2
and option3. Yay.
Our secretary is failing his job. Critically.
Note: I'm not saying Julien advocated _this_ vote, I'm explaining what
his vote is nonsensical, and I'm hereby calling people to rank FD first
or to boycott it. This is a practical joke.
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e arguments, then he is behaving in a wholly improper manner
> with regard to this vote, and frankly I see no reason that we as a project
> should even honor the outcome of a vote on this ballot as presented.
I second that.
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On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 07:43:05PM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 23 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>
> >> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 06:29:26PM +, gregor herrmann wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 09:45:56 -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
>
> &
N | N | Y | N | Y | N
> v override foundation documents | N | Y | Y | N | N | N | N
> ---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---
> Y(es) N(o) R(elease) W(ait
s failed.
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uman and make
honnest mistakes, when they realize those are mistakes and don't
obstinately try to impose a decision that is after all not making
consensus at all. So far, I don't believe the Release Team failed those
principles, and a vote will just decide that once for all.
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On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:54:25PM +, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Yes, I believe the DFSG are clumsy when it comes to its terms. Component
> > is clear. Firmwares are part of Debian components for sure, there is
> >
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:15:10PM +, Ben Finney wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:20:05PM +, Ben Finney wrote:
> > > Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > The SC
and in particular I)
don't represent Debian well after all. As a consequence I will resign
from my RT membership if that should happen.
[0] http://bugs.debian.org/tag:lenny-ignore
my point with this URL, is that lenny-ignore tags are highly
visible an
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:20:05PM +, Ben Finney wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 09:01:38PM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > > The SC is pretty clear about everything in the Debian
> > > system
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 09:01:38PM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 16 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 06:04:32PM +, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> >> First of all, please stop the obnoxious cross-posting. It makes the
> >
not sure I'm presenting my point very well, but I'm sure some native
speakers will be able to formulate this differently if it's not clear
enough.
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one of the ballot options seems right to me, I
prefer we discuss this again. IOW it's the statu quo, it solves nothing,
it means "please draft a new ballot". I see no problem with such a
meaning, it's always what it has meant.
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and the
> | firmware is distributed upstream under a license that complies
> | with the DFSG.
> `
I second this proposal
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nd Hubert Chathi)
> - Typo fix (spotted by Frans Pop)
>
>
> I hereby propose this General Resolution:
You can't do that, only the secretary can. You're supposed to propose
one (or several) options and get seconds for it/them. That's all.
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has been reached, or when decided by a general
> | resolution.
I'm still a bit sorry that Joerg doesn't rescind his first mail by
himself and starts that by himself also, and that we need to go down the
GR route... But since it doesn't seem like an available option right
now,
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:21:41PM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>
>
> > IMHO that's beside the point, even if the constit
ensus opinion.
FWIW I believe the mail on dda fails that in so many levels… that indeed
I believe the GR isn't really needed and that either the secretary or
the DPL should have his word in this. But oh well, if one want an
humiliating GR for that matter, let's do it.
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hould I put in your mouth?
>
> Let this serve as a warning for anyone who dares to complain that mr Langasek
> is defamating him.
>
> P.S.: I never thought we'd get so low. Sad thing, really.
Is your real first name Frank ?
If you can't make the difference between
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 01:15:55PM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>
>
> > And you're comfortable with ftp-master ruling DFSG-iness through NEW
> > then ? I don't really see the difference.
>
> I w
ll ever work on their Debian system, then yeah, go for it.
Is it me, or you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about ?
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27;s point, the difference between
non-free and Debian will be blurry (if it's not already blurry enough),
and every single User will have non-free, whereas I believe quite a few
live without it right now.
That's regression, and it's IMHO far worse than a couple of bi
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 05:40:14PM +, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:02:36PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > No firmware
> > issue tagged etch-ignore is still present in lenny. IOW the kernel team
> > *is* doing good work in that area, and I see no re
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 05:52:28PM +, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21 2008, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>
>
> > Though, when this software is central to all Debian (as the kernel is,
> > or the glibc for the sunrpc issue, or mesa for the GLX code, or ...),
> &
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 05:42:25PM +, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:07:08PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 04:54:13PM +, Robert Millan wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 05:50:40PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> > >
h an
action), every package that needs linux-source would move to contrib.
Say kernel-package, m-a, all the kernel-patches, iptables, ...
everything. And ... even the glibc since it uses linux-libc-dev to
build, so in turn 90% of Debian shall go to contrib.
-
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 04:48:16PM +, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 05:47:58PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > [...]. Here you could modify source,
> > big deal, you won't be able to *build* the damn firmware. ever.
>
> http://bugs.debian
ify, and we have a
toolchain for that.
Comparing documentation only distributed under PDF and binary firmwares
of 512 octets and pretend it's the same issue is a red herring, and a
total lack of nuance.
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On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:34:49PM +, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > FWIW Reviewing an AM report and an application is nothing near a small
> > 5 minutes task. I believe it's rather 30 minutes of work per applicant
>
es task. I believe it's rather 30 minutes of work per applicant
if you do it seriously enough. Creating an account should though
(meaning I don't know if it is, but I see no valid technical reasons for
it not to be).
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open
an RC bug on it, and you don't really need the DPL blessing to do so :P
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On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 12:45:31PM +, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Pierre Habouzit:
> > upstream made a proper fix for IPv4, in a very sensible way, and the
> > problem is gone
>
> Have you got a pointer to the discussion/patch? Thanks.
The patch is that it applies r
split as a "failed" vote instead given how passionate he was about
the issue.
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 03:22:35PM +, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 12:01:58AM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > > James was directly involved in getting the current form to happen;
> > > the need for change was a shock to the rest of us, not James or Jo
On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 09:29:10PM +, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 09:00:43PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>
> > And at the time he was kind of right, [...], so he was
> > rejecting the delays on the ???over-administrative-thing??? NM has
> &
On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 08:00:43PM +, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 06:48:56PM +, Anthony Towns wrote…
> > … quite a lot of things that I won't quote for brevity.
>
> I agree fully that a jetring-based (or anything alike) approach would
> be
ose
_social_ issues ? jetring isn't going to fix that. Meanwhile we are
driving excellent contributors crazy, and it kills me.
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On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 11:56:34PM +, David Moreno Garza wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 22:10 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Please be patient, it will come.
>
> Like when?
As soon as -private archive get declassified I think.
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his amendment.
>
> My rationale:
>
> The campaign-only period is the most annoying bit of DPL elections,
I strongly disagree with that, but that's a fair alternate proposal
that deserves to be on the ballot, hence I second it as well.
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On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 12:27:05PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 10:41:49AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > I don't agree. I think quite the contrary. We often tend to not address
> > >
rge, is just
the identity of the winning camp, not Debian's.
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een DPLs. I've never been DPL
(AFAICT) and maybe those who have been can confirm/refute but I'd say
that I would love to have such an overlap to be able to continue things
the previous DPL started smoothly.
Okay some details like who is really in charge during the overlaps has
t
n
>A.6 of the Standard Resolution Procedure. The quorum is the same
>as for a General Resolution (4.2) and the default option is "None
>Of The Above".
> 8. The Project Leader serves for one year from their election.
> =
I
details but about a general
> direction that we want to have or not.
No it's not. General directions are tested through large scale
experiments (like it happens for sponsoring before). Note that nobody
needs that GR to implement a DM-like queue.
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> > 2. It empowers the wrong people.
>
> It empowers a group of current contributors to do their contribution in a
> more efficient manner. By doing so it also free's up time of other
> contributors playing middleman for the first group. How is this in any way
> a bad thin
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 01:00:50PM +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > arguments in favor of DM the more it's about introverted geeks, and
> > uncoordinated work. Maybe we should care more about people that are nice
> > t
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:37:38PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 02:56:39PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 10:04:20AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 09:12:46PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > &
that:
(1) they are alive and kicking ;
(2) they don't underestimate or minimize the problem.
In those conditions, I've no issues with ftbfs.de/turmzimmer.net/...
at _ALL_ because they are forking a dead horse. I have issues with
people trying to circumvent alive teams, becau
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 03:24:11PM +0100, Matthew Johnson wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>
> > - step 2: waiting for an AM.
>
> > Step 2: is not long nowadays, maybe 1 month. Well, if people can't
> > wait a month, then they should not help Debian-we-release
o make sure
that he is aware of what he doesn't know, and that he knows who to ask.
_That_ is what is the most important thing for a DD. Knowing your
limits, and having clues where or who to ask for answers.
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are busy, are not available (working, traveling, broken hardware,
> > different timezones), and so on - why put more load on them without need?
>
> I agree that some non-DD's simply deserve upload rights.
I don't. I agree that some non-DD simply deserve to be fast trac
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 09:48:57PM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:40:29 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>
> > This is exactly what I don't like in the proposal. I think I already
> > said that, but DM is about pet packages, while Debian as a whole
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 09:25:24PM +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I still lack the reason why someone would not be DD for political
> > reasons _and_ wanting to help improving Debian at the same time.
>
> For an exampl
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 07:44:19PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> The NM process is far more flexible than you seem to think.
Actually not really, but _that_ is indeed what needs to be fixed,
enhanced, made better.
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On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 09:52:15AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > And I have also issues with every other use case that have been talked
> > about yet. Yes, even the "upstream wants to package his stuff", I'm not
ling his arguments and not Loïc), and for
sure there is equally good arguments against your points as well.
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less as it's a
workaround for DAM delays, and not really a valuable improvement of
anything.
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skilled)
contributors, but those are not DD because of NM, and DM is not really
what they need (I mean, I'd really like to see their long waiting AM
report be validated, and account created...).
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Revamp in which direction ? Adding castes ? Now _that_ would be an
improvement… or maybe not.
Frightened,
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On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 12:03:36PM +0100, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 10:58:13PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > > Notes: package should generally be co-maintained by sponsor and non-DD
> > > maintainer, with the non-DD maintainer doing most of the work
ents for a handful of
people.
I mean some use cases may _look_ intereseting, but looking at the
numbers, it looks like handwaving, with the risk to make NM stay hell
forever.
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it would me more interesting to provide such automated
services for packaging teams in alioth. This allows non DD to do
most of the hard work if they want, and only use the DD as an
enabler, with minimal effort on his side.
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2 fixes a year.
It's not worth the trouble.
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On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 03:16:46PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 23/06/07 at 13:43 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > AM delays
> > ~
> > For the former, well, if it's because of the NM taking too much time,
> > the AM usually put their applicant
think that the jetring idea has to be explored and
implemented for those people, that have P&P right, until they are full
DDs.
Cheers,
[0] those dates do not need to be formally defined, but the monthes
when applications will go forward could be decided for example 6
month
M or sponsors
could enable him uploads right for some packages. That sounds right. I'm
not sure DM does, because it's a completely different matter that it
addresses.
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questionable, and I would be quite surprised that the number of people
we're talking about are even comparable to the number of people going
through NM.
You may be embarrassed to answer, but calling peoples argument
superficial and dubious looks like handwaving and evasi
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 07:39:39PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > Another question I have is that basically, I don't grok why it's
> > harder to give DM's uploads rights, than NM's an account.
>
> DD implies an account on ~20 ma
for basically, forever.
I'd be more comfortable if we could somehow fix the NM problems
_before_ pushing that proposal. I mean, the proposal is sensible, but I
fear that after all it addresses the symptoms rather than the root of
the problems it's supposed to fix.
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l the fuss, that you're frustrated with
the amount of crappy mail it generated. Everybody is. But that does not
gives you any right to be an asshole.
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>
> Thank you!
>
>
> Best,
> --Toni++
>
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ight have updated.
> Some examples taken from this list:
> Python related:
> #387414 #399697 #397006 #401040 #41 #398636
> Others:
> #374955 #374730 #328579
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http://blog.madism.org/ind
s. You don't
fix a problem by disallowing people to act like that. That's better to
understand _why_ they act like that, and fix the real problem. You can't
blame people for being unhappy, and frustration make people behave
badly. That's no
gt; Mailing list are a tool. We want constructive and rewarding discussions.
Humour (of lack of) is a quality. Having some is very rewarding in the
long term, as it allows us to keep some fun and motivation too. I'm
tired of the self-importantness and excessive seriousness of people on
ntend to make it his main task to change this situation I would
> rank him top most and everybody who ignores this problem will be
> ranked below "None of above".
Well, I've read Frans post with a lot of interest, and it seemed to be
a quite good rewording of Sam'
could chose a glyph to represent him on the
ballot:
♥, ♫, ♀, …
and I'm sure someone would also want to choose │ just for the fun.
Wouldn't be that really great ? Sadly there is no pony-glyph (sorry
martin, would a horse ♘ be OK though ?).
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sed arch.
> ...and see who wants to sign up to help with the different parts and
> flesh bits out, and if there are any other ways to exceed expectations
> on each of the various points. But I don't know if that /is/ the goal
> you're going for overall, or if it's
ON.
>
> KINDEST REGARDS,
Matthew, get out of that body, right now !
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olitical systems that disallowed pamphlets and other
satirical tracts were not really regimes I would like to live under.
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th
> doing, it should be spectacularly amazing, not barely reaching whatever
> minimal levels get set. I'm not opposed, I'm just not convinced.
/me stares incredulously
When I see some of our _official_ ports (you know like hurd-i386 where
we have bugs like "nice() doesn't
ptop lowlevel tools are linux-only too, or inotify or... well, I think
you see the big picture.
It can lead to some build-deps to be removed as well as e.g. alsa does
not exists on kfreebsd.
ttbomk very few of the patches are very involved, and it&#
being attributed to the former.
If you're going to be re-elected, and if dunc-tank is to be continued
also, will you still remain on the board and pursue this rather
schizophrenic split, that does not seem to be that clear, even to you ?
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ian try to fund
another subpart of it, and let third party contractors do that if they
want. Or do not pay people, but events or devcamps for teams that have
very important task to achieve and that can benefit from such camps.
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On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:07:24PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-02-27 14:03]:
> > In the context of A beeing the DPL, understand my reservations about
> > it. Remember that the subject is dunc-tank, not _an_ anynymous foo
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On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 01:45:50PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I absolutely don't like the implications of that assertion.
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> Well, if an entity A feels that they would benefit from paying a DD
> for his Debia
people to work on core Debian things if
> you do it publically
I absolutely don't like the implications of that assertion.
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·O· Pierre Habouzit
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> >What do you think of the dunc-tank initiative ?
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> I think that the initiative affected the Debian community as a whole
> for better.
Could you develop a bit ? I fail to see how tearing the community
apart did made it better, at least I miss a step
do you see the bending here,
it's steve working, and this one is andi, unfortunately the number of
bugs did grow a lot after that". It's hardly a summary, certainly not an
evaluation, so I'm still waiting for it…
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·O· Pierre Hab
ile beeing the DPL, didn't saw the
single problem in heading the board of dunc-tank (a `non-debian'
project) at the same time.
> I mean, how dare he try to help the project in this way.
He should be hanged up for that, short and tight.
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