Re: OT: Just a simple query

2011-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Walter Hurry writes: >> On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:12:01 -0200, Ismael Scalcon wrote: >> >>> But it's still opensource, so the source code is free to download and >>> compile. The guys at CentOS do it, they get all the source code for RHL, >>> re

Re: OT: Just a simple query

2011-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Raf Czlonka wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:29:03PM GMT, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Raf Czlonka wrote: >> > On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 11:12:01PM GMT, Ismael Scalcon wrote: >> >> To clarify things up (ok, a b

Re: Can we stop whining about GNOME3 please?

2011-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Joe wrote: > > I think, as usual with Linux graphics, that we are talking drivers here. > > I don't really think this is fixable. The MB is two-three years old. So > not old enough to write off as useless, but not brand-new either. For the latest Fedora beta, "gno

Re: How to get an IP address

2011-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > > The 'getent' utility is part of GNU glibc and is present on any GNU > glibc based system but not present on others.  It won't work on HP-UX > for example. "getent" exists in Solaris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.deb

Re: Can we stop whining about GNOME3 please?

2011-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:34:36 -0500, Tom H wrote: > >> For the latest Fedora beta, "gnome-shell will run even on hardware >> without a native 3D driver, including virt guests." > > Umm, there isn't a

Re: Can we stop whining about GNOME3 please?

2011-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:14:07 -0500, Tom H wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Walter Hurry >> wrote: >>> On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:34:36 -0500, Tom H wrote: >>> >>>> For the latest Fed

Re: Why can't why have both GNOME 2 and GNOME 3?

2011-11-15 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Kevin Ross wrote: > > Why weren't the new gnome packages named with a "3" in their name, to allow > both gnome 2 and gnome 3 to exist in the repositories, and allow the user to > choose which one they want? After all, we had apache and apache2, php4 and > php5, mys

Re: How to get an IP address

2011-11-15 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Chris Davies wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:44 AM, T o n g wrote: > Tom H wrote: >>> >>> I know how to get an IP address *info* using dig, but has anyone looked >>> into how to get *only* the IP address? so that I can u

Re: Dep levels

2011-11-16 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:27:50 +, Richard wrote: > >> I asked on the -dev list but no avail, I have googled, but whats the >> difference between dependency level 1 and dependency level 2 on software >> transitions > > "No avail"? "but no avail

Re: Hi, how to change the LC_CTYPE?

2011-11-18 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:29 PM, shiyao ma wrote: > > Once again, I added export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8 in my .zshrc > However, I do not think it will affect the locale of my GUI software... With bash, you'd edit "/etc/profile" or "~/.profile"; with zsh, no idea. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: X respawns on tty8 instead of tty7

2011-11-20 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > I am running Sid and X thru startx. > It appears that on restarting X the tty it uses dwells to tty8. > I wonder why I want that feature, it's annoying. > Found a reference to it: > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=103765 > 'Ps

Re: Hi, how to change the LC_CTYPE?

2011-11-20 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> >> With bash, you'd edit "/etc/profile" or "~/.profile"; with zsh, no idea. > > That won't work for logins from an xdm such as gdm, kdm or lightdm. It works for gdm, at least

Re: Disabling NFSv4 on Debian Squeeze

2011-11-22 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Camaleón wrote: > El 2011-11-22 a las 07:50 +0200, Israel Bravo escribió: >> On 11/21/2011 07:34 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> > El 2011-11-21 a las 08:51 +0200, Israel Bravo escribió: >> > >> >> On 11/20/2011 05:27 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 15:42:08

Re: Hi, how to change the LC_CTYPE?

2011-11-22 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> Bob Proulx wrote: >> > Tom H wrote: >> >> With bash, you'd edit "/etc/profile" or "~/.profile"; with zsh, no idea. >> > >> > That won't work for login

Re: Disabling NFSv4 on Debian Squeeze

2011-11-25 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:28:15 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> >> I've been meaning to look into you "RPCMOUNTDOPTS=--no-nfs-version 4" >> suggestion but haven't had the time. > > It seems that this para

Re: Injecting virtual dependencies into apt

2011-11-30 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Fredrik Tolf wrote: > > I'm wondering if there's a way to inject virtual packages into apt. For my > part, I'm running a HTTP server that I've compiled and installed from > source, and because apt doesn't know about it, it wants to install Apache or > some other pa

Re: Booting into DOS

2011-12-01 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Brian wrote: >> ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ### >> # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type the >> # menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to change >> # the 'exec tail' line above. >> menuentry "DOS

Re: Booting into DOS

2011-12-01 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: > > Tom - > > Thanks. > > Here is the changed file. > > #!/bin/sh > exec tail -n +3 $0 > # This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries.  Simply type > the > # menu entries you want to add after this comment.  Be careful not to ch

Re: Injecting virtual dependencies into apt

2011-12-02 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Fredrik Tolf wrote: > On Wed, 30 Nov 2011, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Fredrik Tolf >> wrote: >>> >>> I'm wondering if there's a way to inject virtual packages into apt. For >>> my >&g

Re: Squeeze-updates not working

2011-12-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 7:36 PM, bd satish wrote: > > [~]:11 $ cat /proc/version > Linux version 2.6.32-5-amd64 (Debian 2.6.32-39) (da...@debian.org) > (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) ) #1 SMP Thu Nov 3 03:41:26 UTC > 2011 > > [~]:12 $ apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 > linux-image-2

Re: Reboot and all I get is a grub prompt.

2011-12-05 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Brian wrote: > On Mon 05 Dec 2011 at 08:44:51 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: >> >> When I run update-grub, it appears to be working but ends with >> something akin to an error: >> >>   root # update-grub >>   Generating grub.cfg ... >>   Found background image: >>   /u

Re: Find which package has installed some file under /etc

2011-12-22 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2011-12-20 14:20:51 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: >> >> But I think this discussion of /etc/default/ collisions is all rather >> academic.  No one has yet to mention any real world case of a problem. >> Just the potential that it might be a p

Re: Preseeded installer uses avahi instead of waiting DHCP

2011-12-28 Thread Tom H
2011/12/27 Дмитрий Огородников : > > I have slow DHCP and TFTP-server with debian installer. Whet I try to > install Debian (squeeze 6.0.3), installer sets IP to 164.254.x.x > instead of waiting DHCP respond. > > Adding "d-i netcfg/dhcp_timeout string 60" doesn't change this > behavior. Installer s

Re: Preseeded installer uses avahi instead of waiting DHCP

2011-12-28 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 28/12/11 12:14, Дмитрий Огородников wrote: >> >> I have slow DHCP and TFTP-server with debian installer. Whet I try to >> install Debian (squeeze 6.0.3), installer sets IP to 164.254.x.x >> instead of waiting DHCP respond. >> >> Adding "

Re: Preseeded installer uses avahi instead of waiting DHCP

2011-12-28 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 28/12/11 19:41, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Scott Ferguson >> wrote: >>> On 28/12/11 12:14, Dmitry wrote: >>>> >>>> I have slow DHCP and TFTP-server with debian insta

Re: disabling ipV6

2011-12-28 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > I know this is a FAQ, so apologies, but after much googling I've been unable > to find a remedy. > > I run my own caching BIND9 under squeeze, and as far as I'm aware it's > correctly set up. > > I'm using Thunderbird as my MUA, with an

Re: Problems with sudo PATH

2011-12-29 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Steve Kreyer wrote: > > after an update of my Debian system some time ago I've encountered some > problems with sudo. In particular sudo doesn't seem to recognize any > commands located in /sbin or /usr/sbin. For example the command useradd is > located in /usr/sb

Re: Preseeded installer uses avahi instead of waiting DHCP

2011-12-31 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 29/12/11 00:38, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Scott Ferguson >> wrote: >>> On 28/12/11 19:41, Tom H wrote: >>>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Scott Ferguson >>>&g

Re: "sudo" command passwd is not canceled.

2012-01-05 Thread Tom H
2012/1/4 Joel Rees : > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:26 PM, chengshid wrote: >> 于 2012年01月04日 14:45, Bob Proulx 写道: >>> chengshid wrote: >> rootALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL > > Odd that root would have to use the password where all the rest don't. But, > ... > >> userALL=(ALL:ALL)NOPASSWD: ALL > > That's

Re: sbin

2012-01-05 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:42:10 +0800, lina wrote: > >> Is it safe to add /sbin into PATH? > > To you user env? If it's not an exposed system, I'd say yes. It's even OK on an "exposed" system. Having "(/usr)/sbin" in PATH for everyone is the default

Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

2012-01-06 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mi, 04 ian 12, 17:37:42, Camaleón wrote: >> > >> > No new Lenny updates after 6 February 2012. >> >> Yes, unfortunately Debian team changed their mind at the middle of the >> proccess. This unforeseen change forces me to keep my lenny syst

Re: sbin

2012-01-11 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:42:10 +0800, lina wrote: >>> >>>> Is it safe to add /sbin into PATH? >>

Re: boot from raid1 mdadm version 1.2 partition

2012-01-13 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Marc Auslander wrote: > > Earlier posts seem to say this should/might work. > > I made an mdadm v 1.2 partions, and put a copy of my root file system > on it. > > update-grub doesn't see it at all. > > if I try to boot by hand, I can get grub to boot the kernel but

Re: booting Debian-6 in run level 3

2012-01-13 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 5:51 AM, Bijoy Lobo wrote: > > I have read online that Debian Squeeze has no differentiation in runlevels > from 2-5, although I would like to boot my debian box in CLI mode. You can add "text" to the "linux" grub line. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@li

Re: booting Debian-6 in run level 3

2012-01-13 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Vi, 13 ian 12, 07:06:12, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 5:51 AM, Bijoy Lobo wrote: >> > >> > I have read online that Debian Squeeze has no differentiation in runlevels >> > from 2-5, althoug

Re: booting Debian-6 in run level 3

2012-01-13 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Vi, 13 ian 12, 12:13:52, Darac Marjal wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 04:21:11PM +0530, Bijoy Lobo wrote: >> >    Hi Everyone, >> > >> >    I have read online that Debian Squeeze has no differentiation in >> > runlevels >> >    from 2-

Re: booting Debian-6 in run level 3

2012-01-13 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Don Juan wrote: > On 01/13/2012 05:27 AM, Brian wrote: >> On Fri 13 Jan 2012 at 15:23:33 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: >>> On Vi, 13 ian 12, 07:06:12, Tom H wrote: >>>> >>>> You can add "text" to the "linux&q

Re: grub-pc mdadm root

2012-01-14 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Marc Auslander wrote: > > I'm still having no luck booting an mdadm 1.2 root. > > grub2 works - I get into the boot kernel and initram.  But when it > comes to mount the real kernel, I fall into initramfs shell with a > message that the kernel can't be found.  And

Re: Grub cannot fit into boot record

2012-01-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: > > On my desktop, which is running Squeeze, I tried to upgrade some > packages to their Wheezy version. I have now reverted the upgrade, but I > am alarmed. > > One of the packages was grub2 which was at version > 1.98+20100804-14+sque

Re: Grub cannot fit into boot record

2012-01-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: > > /dev/sda1              63  1953520064   976760001   fd  Linux raid > autodetect The post-MBR gap's OK. How large is "core.img"? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Re: Grub cannot fit into boot record

2012-01-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > On Saturday 14 January 2012 11:06:33 Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: >> >> On my desktop, which is running Squeeze, I tried to upgrade some >> packages to their Wheezy version. I have now reverted the upgrade, but I >> am alarmed. >> >> One o

Re: grub-pc mdadm root

2012-01-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Marc Auslander wrote: > Tom H writes: >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Marc Auslander wrote: >>> I'm still having no luck booting an mdadm 1.2 root. >>> >>> grub2 works - I get into the boot kernel and initram.

Re: grub-pc mdadm root

2012-01-15 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Marc Auslander wrote: > Tom H writes: >> >> Can you unpack your initrd and check whether you have an "mdadm" >> script in the "scripts" directory, an mdadm rule in the "udev" >> directory, and an "

Re: Grub cannot fit into boot record

2012-01-15 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 08:24:40 -0500 (EST), Arno Schuring wrote: >> John Hasler (jhas...@newsguy.com on 2012-01-14 12:25 -0600): >>> >>> IMHO putting critical >>> boot software in an "unallocated" area that other software will (not >>> unreaso

Re: vsftpd-2.3.5.deb: Can I get the debian source of 2.3.4?

2012-01-19 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Regid Ichira wrote: > >  Referring to Package: vsftpd, Version: 2.3.5-1. > > 1. Can I get the debian source for 2.3.4, and possibly older? >   I think debian had some version control archive for the vsftpd >   package. The 2.3.2 and 2.3.4 tarballs are at http://d

Re: How to install Truecrypt on Debian squeeze?

2012-01-20 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Lisi wrote: > On Friday 20 January 2012 14:00:59 antispammbox-debian wrote: >> >> In Ubuntu to install Truecrypt is easy. Why in Debian not same? > > I can never understand the compulsion among Ubuntu users to use Debian, and > then complain that it is not the same

Re: 3.2 Kernel Image Problems

2012-01-21 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 4:30 PM, David Baron wrote: > > Neither the 686 nor the amd64 flavors install correctly. They fail to create > the initrd. I can use upgrade-initramfs -c and then apt-get -f install will > finish the process. (I have not tried booting these yet.) No probs for me with an i6

Re: System hangs due to NFS share

2012-01-24 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:50 AM, Sylvain wrote: > 2012/1/23 Frank : >> On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 11:47 +0100, Sylvain wrote: >> >>> I already tried this option too, but it didn't help. Also according to >>> the manpage: >>> >>> > The intr / nointr mount option is deprecated after kernel 2.6.25.  Only

Re: What´s wrong with fetchmail? (Re: POP3 in Debian)

2012-01-24 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:47 AM, lee wrote: > Jon Dowland writes: > >> I'd strongly recommend using something *other* than fetchmail: getmail >> or mpop are options. > > What´s wrong with fetchmail? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg01476.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-u

Re: System hangs due to NFS share

2012-01-25 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Sylvain wrote: > On 24. 01. 12 09:28, Tom H wrote: >> On 24/01/12 18:50, Sylvain wrote: >>> >>> I tried to SIGKILL the [nfsiod] process but it didn't get killed. I >>> also tried to kill the various rpcbind processes but

Re: Blank screen at boot with kernel 3.1

2012-01-25 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2012-01-25 20:38 +0100, Rémi Moyen wrote: >> Le 25 janvier 2012 18:10, Sven Joachim a écrit : >>> On 2012-01-25 18:04 +0100, Rémi Moyen wrote: Kernel 3.2 seems to be still in unstable, I'd rather not install something from t

Re: issue with mdadm and mirroring drives

2012-01-25 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:35 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: > 25/01/2012 19:16, Joey L wrote: >> Okay..I am telling all in this email -:) >> >> My configuration is as such: >> /dev/md0 = /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdd1 >> /dev/md1 = /dev/sda1 and /dev/sb1 >> >> My swap partitions are not part o

Re: Blank screen at boot with kernel 3.1

2012-01-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:47 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2012-01-25 23:51 +0100, Tom H wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: >>> >>> The metapackage has not yet migrated, it seems. But 3.1 really is not >>> supported any

Re: latest kernel

2012-01-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Richard wrote: > > What is the latest kernel release in unstable ? > I'm seeing 3.1.0.1, yet there are mentions of 3.2 in earlier postings. 3.2's still in unstable. Just run: # aptitude update ... # # aptitude search linux-image -F '%p %t %v %V' linux-image

Re: Just what does _DEBIAN_ mean by "live"

2012-01-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Lisi wrote: > On Thursday 26 January 2012 16:19:06 Richard Owlett wrote: >> Scott Ferguson wrote: >> > On 25/01/12 06:21, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> I downloaded a 770MB file titled >> >> debian-live-6.0.3-i386-lxde-desktop.iso . Burned a DVD.Got some >> >> su

Re: Recent Debian Preseed Error: "Logical Volume Manager not available"

2012-01-31 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Chris Hiestand wrote: >> I've had a stable, working, preseed configuration with no changes >> other than downloading the latest stable debian releases (netboot >> images). Suddenly partman has stopped working in my preseed: > > If you swap back

Re: Recent Debian Preseed Error: "Logical Volume Manager not available"

2012-02-01 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Chris Hiestand wrote: > On Jan 31, 2012, at 12:48 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > >>> I've had a stable, working, preseed configuration with no changes >>> other than downloading the latest stable debian releases (netboot >>> images). Suddenly partman has stopped working i

Re: Recent Debian Preseed Error: "Logical Volume Manager not available"

2012-02-01 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > > These problems are due to the mismatch between the new udeb files in > the 6.0.4 point release and the previous 6.0.3 netboot files on my > (and your) server.  The netboot files needed to be updated.  Updating > them solved my problem.  And now

Re: Bug reporting

2012-02-01 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Gary Roach wrote: > > I've been using Debian for years and still can't seem to submit a bug report > successfully.  One of the main problems is that I have no mail server active > on my system. I use Icedove. I have tried to setup exim several times and > have alway

Re: xserver-xorg vs. xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

2012-02-02 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Serious, you're using a Mac [1], there's nothing I could imagine that's > more un-libre. I really wonder why you won't use the proprietary driver. Aren't you conflating Apple hardware and OS?1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ.

Re: Backup System

2012-02-03 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 03/02/12 20:33, Jon Dowland wrote: >> On 03/02/12 05:36, David Christensen wrote: >>> >>> $ apt-cache search backup | less >>> >>> HTH, > >> It's hardly likely to. > > Huh? > > Hardly likely to what? to help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points

2012-02-03 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Jens Tobiska wrote: > > I am trying to install debian on a lenovo x61 with an intel 4965AGN built in > wifi card from a usb stick. > > The installation fails when trying to find wireless access points. It then > asks me to enter ESSID and password which I do. It th

Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points

2012-02-04 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Jan Moskyto Matejka wrote: >> > >> > Wireless internet works from the same computer in windows with WPA2-PSK, >> > AES. >> > >> > Is there a way to make the installer find my network? >> >> The installer can only deal with WEP encrytpion: >> >> http://www.debian.org

Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points

2012-02-06 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:18:38 +, Brian wrote: > >> On Sun 05 Feb 2012 at 21:09:26 +, Camaleón wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:12:26 +, Brian wrote: >>> >>> > Your proposal fits the remit of debian-...@lists.debian.org. >>> >>> Agree

Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points

2012-02-07 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:28:45 -0500, Tom H wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:18:38 +, Brian wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun 05 Feb 2012 at 21:09:26 +,

Re: lenovo s205 installation problems

2012-02-07 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Russell L. Harris wrote: Some GPT labelled disks need to have the boot flag set on the "bios_grub" partition (in violation of the EFI spec) for a box to be bootable. And some Lenovo models are affected. > (1) It seems that everything goes back to Intel, which in

Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points

2012-02-07 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:26:27 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:28:45 -0500, Tom H wrote: >>>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Camaleón wrote: >

Re: lenovo s205 installation problems

2012-02-07 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Russell L. Harris wrote: > * Tom H [120207 12:12]: >> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Russell L. Harris >> wrote: >> Some GPT labelled disks need to have the boot flag set on the >> "bios_grub" partition (in viola

Re: lenovo s205 installation problems

2012-02-07 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Russell L. Harris > wrote: >> * Tom H [120207 12:12]: >>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Russell L. Harris >>> wrote: >>> >> So I plan to reboot the GParted-Live flash U

Re: lenovo s205 installation problems

2012-02-07 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Russell L. Harris >> wrote: >>> * Tom H [120207 12:12]: >>>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Russell L. Harris >>>>

Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points

2012-02-08 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:27:19 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Camaleón wrote: > >>> I don't know where these features use to be advertized, I follow >>> debian- news, debian-announce,

Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points

2012-02-10 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:24:18 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:27:19 -0500, Tom H wrote: >>>> The announcement of the availability of WPA in d-i

Re: keyboard input in terminal emulators vs X11 apps

2012-02-11 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Ernest Adrogué wrote: > > I was setting some key bindings in emacs and it puzzled me > that some of those bindings worked in emacs-x but not in emacs-nox. > > Then I fired up emacs in a tty, in an X terminal emulator and also a > graphical frame and quoted-insert s

Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points

2012-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:09:43 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>>>> I read about the GRUB2 transition from Debian Planet and I'm sure >>>>> sure it was aired i

Re: Networking Q concerning /etc/network/interfaces

2012-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > I'm getting confused by what I see in /etc/network/interfaces, > compared to what I see with ifconfig -a. > > What I see in /etc/network/interfaces: > >  auto lo >  iface lo inet loopback >  allow-hotplug eth0 >  iface eth0 inet dhcp > > Doe

Re: Networking Q concerning /etc/network/interfaces

2012-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Camaleón writes: >> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:13:22 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> >>> So it appears at a superficial reckoning that dhcp has assigned an >>> address to eth0, but that address appears to be attached to eth1 in >>> ifconfig and ne

Re: Networking Q concerning /etc/network/interfaces

2012-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Brian writes: > and hostname -i shows: > >   127.0.1.1 192.168.1.42 AFAIK, these days this only works if "192.168.1.42" is in "/etc/hosts" or in the nis/nisplus/ldap equivalent. > I vaguely remember bringing up the second address with if

Re: Networking Q concerning /etc/network/interfaces

2012-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Jesse Thompson writes: >> the interfaces file is really only going to come into pay during >> bootup, or when using eg ifup/ifdown scripts. >> >> You indicated that you may have configured the interfaces by hand via >> ifconfig; if so those

Re: Networking Q concerning /etc/network/interfaces

2012-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > I post a few things following todays reboot > > I have connected something to the other ethernet port now ... and so > ifconfig -a reports (with me doing nothing special but having > rebooted): > > eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:4

Re: Networking Q concerning /etc/net

2012-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > I have now wired both up. The one that gets the hosts 192.168.1.42 > address is eth1 and is hardcoded at the lan router/dns server by MAC > to get that address. > > eth0 is getting a dns served address too now. > > In fact I've now created

Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points

2012-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> >> I have found the following two d-i-related pages the second of which >> mentions WPA: >> >> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/ReleaseAnnounce >> >> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/WheezyGoals > > Yes, the "goal" is there but how ab

Re: Networking Q concerning /etc/network/interfaces

2012-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Brian wrote: > On Sun 12 Feb 2012 at 13:34:45 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> What explains this apparent anomaly? >> >> I can't explain why eth0 has an Ip address but it isn&#

Re: Netinstall cannot find wireless access points

2012-02-13 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:53:19 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> >> There was the wpasupplicant-udeb bug that was closed mid-2011 and that I >> posted earlier in the thread - and it must've been tracked by >> debian-boot i

Re: "hostname" question during Debian installation

2012-02-13 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Martin T wrote: > During Debian installation there is a question about "hostname" using > expert installation mode. In both modes but I don't think that "regular" mode asks you for a domain. > Am I correct, that "hostname" inserted during Debian installation i

Re: How best to replace NetworkManager with wicd?

2012-02-13 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Chris Davies wrote: > > My understanding is that NM will not touch any interface that is defined > in /etc/network/interfaces. So, theoretically at least, if you simply > go ahead and declare the interfaces "it will all just work". Check "/etc/NetworkManager/Netwo

Re: Networking Q concerning /etc/network/interfaces

2012-02-13 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > I decided to try a third way; reverse the device names on the host. > > However I'm not really sure how to do that so that it persists thru > updates. > > The way I did do it was to reverse the names in: > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-ne

Re: How best to replace NetworkManager with wicd?

2012-02-13 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Wayne Topa wrote: > On 02/13/2012 09:18 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Chris Davies >>  wrote: >>> >>> My understanding is that NM will not touch any interface that is defined >>> in /etc/network/

Re: How best to replace NetworkManager with wicd?

2012-02-13 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Wayne Topa wrote: > On 02/13/2012 12:20 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Wayne Topa  wrote: >>> On 02/13/2012 09:18 AM, Tom H wrote: >>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Chris Davies >>>>  wrote: &g

Re: How best to replace NetworkManager with wicd?

2012-02-13 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Wayne Topa wrote: >> On 02/13/2012 12:20 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Wayne Topa  wrote: >>>> On 02/13/2012 09:18 AM, Tom H wrote: >>>>>

Re: How best to replace NetworkManager with wicd?

2012-02-13 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Wayne Topa wrote: >>> On 02/13/2012 12:20 PM, Tom H wrote: >>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Wayne Topa  wrote: >>>

Re: How best to replace NetworkManager with wicd?

2012-02-13 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Wayne Topa wrote: > On 02/13/2012 03:06 PM, Tom H wrote: >> >> From http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/SystemSettings >> >> >> The ifupdown plugin also uses the >> /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf file (0.7 and

Re: "Gnome" package now requires installing "tracker"?

2012-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:52:25 +0100, Claudius Hubig wrote: >> >> Given this enormous amount of dependencies, I really don’t think you can >> complain about tracker. > > More than a complaint, I'd like to know why there exists such as > requirement

Re: "Gnome" package now requires installing "tracker"?

2012-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:55:28 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:52:25 +0100, Claudius Hubig wrote: >>>> >>>> Given this enormous amount

Re: "Gnome" package now requires installing "tracker"?

2012-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:55:28 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:52:25 +0100, Claudius Hubig wrote: >>>> >>>> Given this enormous amount

Re: "Gnome" package now requires installing "tracker"?

2012-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: > On 14.02.2012 17:04, Camaleón wrote: >> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:55:28 -0500, Tom H wrote: >>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 21:52:25 +0100, Claudius Hubig wrote: &

Re: free software mini pc

2012-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:34 AM, green wrote: > > I am *not* looking for disposable hardware.  I am *not* interested in > purchasing a maintenance burden.  I need *rock-solid* *long-term* Linux > reliability on *rock-solid* hardware.  Will Compulabs continue to provide > updated custom kernels a

Re: "Gnome" package now requires installing "tracker"?

2012-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:01:34 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Michael Biebl >> wrote: > > (...) > >>> [1] http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/apps/3.2/3.2.2/sources/ >> >> This lin

Re: "Gnome" package now requires installing "tracker"?

2012-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:41:59 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:55:28 -0500, Tom H wrote: > >>>> This requirement comes from upstream. >

Re: "Gnome" package now requires installing "tracker"?

2012-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 12:24:44 -0500, Tom H wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Camaleón wrote: > > (...) > >>> What makes this package different (and a requirement) is what I'd like >>> to kn

Re: "Gnome" package now requires installing "tracker"?

2012-02-14 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > On 14.02.2012 18:49, Tom H wrote: >> >> Perhaps Debian's GNOME maintainers could change the dependency to a >> "file indexer" and have users choose the indexer that strikes their >> fancy (I'm

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