Re: stretch update overwrites nano file

2018-11-27 Thread Brian
have been better to have been given a warning. Any admin who alters a system file should know what he is doing and be able to deal with it. Think of a hundred altered files and a hundred warnings during an upgrade. Another point is that /usr/local is the place for non-package files. -- Brian.

Re: libcurl problem.

2018-11-27 Thread Brian
4, which is what the erroir. > > Normally when you folks do that, the symlink says it is 100% compatible > with the older version. > > But everything on my system that needs libcurl.so.4 is yelling about it > can't be found. > > How to fix this if possible? Look at what you had before and what you have now. -- Brian.

Re: libcurl problem.

2018-11-27 Thread Brian
On Tue 27 Nov 2018 at 15:51:47 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 27 November 2018 15:11:55 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > Did you just recently update curl? > > > About the first of october, it came from security.debian.org IIRC, but You do not recall IIRC. -- Brian.

Re: libcurl problem.

2018-11-27 Thread Brian
On Tue 27 Nov 2018 at 16:26:19 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 27 November 2018 15:55:18 Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 27 Nov 2018 at 15:51:47 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 27 November 2018 15:11:55 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > >

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-28 Thread Brian
On Tue 27 Nov 2018 at 12:04:37 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > My understanding is .xsessionrc was created in order to give users a > modicum of control over their own lives if they happen to use GNOME. It doesn't say that in #411639. [...] -- Brian.

Re: stretch update overwrites nano file

2018-11-28 Thread Brian
On Wed 28 Nov 2018 at 08:19:39 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 27/11/2018 à 20:15, Brian a écrit : > > On Tue 27 Nov 2018 at 11:07:33 +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > > > > > Yup, I simply put my default.nanorc file back into the /usr/share/nano > > > dir. I wa

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-29 Thread Brian
On Wed 28 Nov 2018 at 20:18:25 +, Brian wrote: > On Tue 27 Nov 2018 at 12:04:37 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [...] > > > My understanding is .xsessionrc was created in order to give users a > > modicum of control over their own lives if they happen to use GNOME.

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-29 Thread Brian
On Thu 29 Nov 2018 at 15:17:03 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 08:10:43PM +0000, Brian wrote: > > How does ~/.xsessionrc assume such importance over ~/.xsession in the > > grand scheme of X things? > > Because it's the only file that's guara

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-30 Thread Brian
rel Ciobîcă's first post of today that you replied to. > Maybe I missed it somewhere in this incredibly drawn-out and unfocused > thread, but I don't think so. It happens. :) -- Brian.

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

2018-11-30 Thread Brian
he ssh-agent > > (for example). At the moment I simply deleted x-window-manager, so > > when I logout from fvwm I get a error/warning instead of a new fvwm > > session. > > > > @ Brian, here is my formal .xsession (currently .xsessionrc) file: > > ===

Re: [OT?] home partition vs. home directory

2018-12-01 Thread Brian
On Sat 01 Dec 2018 at 12:22:09 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 01 December 2018 10:02:29 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Friday, November 30, 2018 07:26:33 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Friday 30 November 2018 13:58:52 Michael Stone wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 05:23:09PM

Re: Package install history - logs etc ?

2018-12-03 Thread Brian
> > > > (I am not the OP.) Is there a special tool to look at it -- I tried less > > and > > saw nothing, then cat which seemed to show binary gibberish (nothing I > > could > > read). > > The logs are gzipped periodically (gibberish for less). But not for zless. -- Brian.

Re: Doing multiple independent install w/o internet

2018-12-06 Thread Brian
/DVDsets/setQ/dvd2 stable main contrib > > . > > . > > . deb file:/media/richard/DVDsets/setQ/dvdN stable main contrib Pass. -- Brian.

Re: Doing multiple independent install w/o internet

2018-12-06 Thread Brian
On Thu 06 Dec 2018 at 08:18:29 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 06 Dec 2018 at 13:53:38 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Thu 06 Dec 2018 at 07:00:43 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > I'm setting up a machine dedicated to *experimenting* with Debian instal

Re: Making a modal window

2018-12-09 Thread Brian
k a computer away > from its user. Thats the first question thatought to be answered. A voice of sanity. Whatever is behind the idea, it is about as nonsensical and unsophisticted as it gets. -- Brian.

Re: Making a modal window

2018-12-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Dec 2018 at 14:47:39 -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 12/9/18, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 09 Dec 2018 at 13:27:21 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > >> First, I fail to see why you should even be able to lock a computer away > >> from its user. That

Re: Making a modal window

2018-12-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Dec 2018 at 21:33:21 -0800, Rusi Mody wrote: > [J Arun Mani] > Look up kiosk instead of DM maybe? > eg https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Kiosk > > [Gene/Brian] Yeah I find your surprise surprising... > > All operating systems (except MSDOS!) have a detailed n

Re: Making a modal window

2018-12-10 Thread Brian
On Mon 10 Dec 2018 at 07:55:32 -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 11:24:33AM +0000, Brian wrote: > > It wasn't any plan for layers of secutity which surprised me but > > the desire to add to the existing username/password login scheme > > with ext

Re: Debian social

2018-12-10 Thread Brian
ing long threads > being (politely) advised to move it on over to offtopic, meaning the > listserv I thought I remembered.. That never worked. People intent on disrupting -user stayed there and continued their disruptive work. -- Brian.

Re: Recommended debootsrap tutorials

2018-12-12 Thread Brian
within the installer; as has been pointed out to him a number of times. -- Brian.

Re: printers

2018-12-13 Thread Brian
p System/Print Settings where I > hoped I could put in sensible values but it says it is locked and ask for > authentication. Which GUI? Which program? > I put in the root password but it won't do anything > why might that be then ? How is this connected with your first stated problem? What you are attempting to do in all of this? -- Brian.

Re: printers

2018-12-13 Thread Brian
On Thu 13 Dec 2018 at 20:32:14 +, Brian wrote: > On Thu 13 Dec 2018 at 19:44:29 +, mick crane wrote: [...] > > I typed > > "lpadmin -U mick -h http://10.0.0.107:631 -d HP_LaserJet_4000_series" > > hoping it might do something but says > > "Un

Re: Recommended debootsrap tutorials

2018-12-14 Thread Brian
nimalist" is a moving target. Do I really need both nano and vim.tiny? Why bother with ifupdown when systemd is there or no network is required? Ditto for isc-dhcp-client. libapparmor1, rsyslog, tasksel? I'm fairly sure the machine will boot without any of these present. Do I pass the end of course lab practical? -- Brian.

Re: Recommended debootsrap tutorials

2018-12-14 Thread Brian
On Fri 14 Dec 2018 at 08:22:06 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/14/2018 07:57 AM, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 14 Dec 2018 at 04:56:11 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > On 12/13/2018 01:51 PM, deloptes wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > >

Re: Recommended debootsrap tutorials

2018-12-14 Thread Brian
it entails is a spot of googling for > web links. As a general comment, that last remark is unfortunately probably true of some students. "Gimme the answer." "I'll do it my way." "That's only *your* opinion." -- Brian.

Re: Recommended debootsrap tutorials

2018-12-14 Thread Brian
ludes why a specific footnote is chosen. > > > > > > You've lost me. > > > > > > -- > > > Brian. > > > > > > > Might it be something like mine? > > > > *YES*! "For more information, please reread." was

Re: Asserting local repository is trusted (man page problem?)

2018-12-16 Thread Brian
On Sun 16 Dec 2018 at 13:03:39 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Whats my problem? Your ability to quote a man page is unparalled. Your understanding of what it tells you isn't in the same ballpark. Please try harder. -- Brian. > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Asserting local repository is trusted (man page problem?)

2018-12-17 Thread Brian
originally installing system from DVD(s). >Synaptic when doing "Edit->Reload Package Information" will not >accept there be any existing reference to DVD(s) in sources.list. Is this part of a blow-by-blow account of what you are doing? We have full confidence you will find a solution. Soldier on. -- Brian.

Re: Resolution -- Re: Asserting local repository is trusted (man page problem?)

2018-12-18 Thread Brian
ow internet data cap for retrieving packages. To that end > I've occasionally done a half dozen full installs in a day. Getting a minimal system is easy. You are aware of two accounts on the wiki which you have never criticised. Whether you have ever tried them is a different matter. -- Brian.

Re: best way to correct (possibly) outdated information on wiki.debian.org

2018-12-30 Thread Brian
From the wiki: > sudo cp /usr/share/doc/util-linux/examples/fstrim.{service,timer} > /etc/systemd/system Adding: Not needed on buster because.. would look to fit the bill. -- Brian.

Re: best way to correct (possibly) outdated information on wiki.debian.org

2018-12-30 Thread Brian
On Sun 30 Dec 2018 at 16:54:19 +0100, Andrea Borgia wrote: > Il 30/12/18 16:23, Brian ha scritto: > > > > There is probably no need for an example file now that #889668 is closed. > > Incidentally - you opened the report, so you can close it; especially if > > you

Re: Fstab

2018-12-31 Thread Brian
long systemd should wait when no device is plugged in or an incorrect device is found. -- Brian.

Re: Nothing older than Jessie at historical packages debian org

2018-12-31 Thread Brian
lly setup yet so it isn't surprising > that it is broken. It might be fixed eventually but I've no idea when > the folks responsible will have time. -- Brian.

Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size

2019-01-01 Thread Brian
nning is scanning. > 2) Is the difference in image sizes due to the bpc (1 vs. 8) or > encoding (ccitt vs jped) fields? Could be. > 3) If yes, how to change them? One file is in (I think) tiff format. The other isn't. You didn't scan like and like from both devices. -- Brian.

Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size

2019-01-02 Thread Brian
e software, computer-side? > > > > The scanner itself makes the pdf files. I'm intrigued; I hadn't realised that conversion of the scanned image for some vendors' devices took place on the device itself. How do you know this happens? It is the frontend to SANE (xsane or scanimage, for example) which I've always associated with image aquisition conversion. -- Brian.

Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size

2019-01-02 Thread Brian
atisfaction? Millions of people are using multifunctions successfully for their everyday needs and with little complaint. No, that's an underestimate! 10s and 100s of millions. -- Brian.

Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size

2019-01-02 Thread Brian
On Tue 01 Jan 2019 at 22:51:02 -0500, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 3:04 PM Brian wrote: > > > > On Tue 01 Jan 2019 at 12:34:38 -0500, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > > > > > A scanned document from Canon pixma mx870 printer is significantly >

Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size

2019-01-02 Thread Brian
> > > > having a scanner do PDFs is weird, see Obama birth certificate, how do you > know is a faithful copy ? Eh? > A piece of paper with marks on it is an image and should be treated as such. Egad. I wish I had thought of that. -- Brian.

Re: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-04 Thread Brian
? Yes, like tidying the boot of a car. 3. Purge what is not wanted ("do I really need ten kernel packages?) with apt and occasionally use 'apt --purge autoremove', keeping an eye on 'df -hl'. -- Brian.

Re: Debian 9.6 stable sourelist & how long support

2019-01-04 Thread Brian
On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 11:01:40 +0530, Latif Shaikh wrote: > Hi, > > Please provide or validate the debian 9.6 stretch stable sourcelist ( > /etc/apt/sources.list) to install stable packages. > > How long support of Debian 9.6 stretch stable version https://wiki.debian.org/LTS -- Brian.

Re: Scanner not working

2019-01-04 Thread Brian
ed? Please post the outputs of 'ls -l /dev/sg*' and 'ls -l /dev/bus/usb/*/*'. Both done as a user. -- Brian.

Re: Scanner not working

2019-01-04 Thread Brian
.  There is a patch there for Ubuntu from 2014, has it never > been back ported to Debian? Surely Im not the only Debian user with one of > these scanners? :) See https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/s/sane-backends/sane-backends_1.0.27-3.1_changelog for the patch history. -- Brian.

Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size

2019-01-04 Thread Brian
On Wed 02 Jan 2019 at 22:56:22 -0500, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:23 PM David Wright wrote: > > > > On Wed 02 Jan 2019 at 14:44:14 (+), Brian wrote: > > > > > > I'm intrigued; I hadn't realised that conversion of the sc

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-04 Thread Brian
the use of computers. Having said that, a full partition does require sensitive treatment. It hasn't received it in this thread. -- Brian.

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-04 Thread Brian
t; > Another demonstration of TANSTAAFL Nicolas. Its a law one will obey no > matter how hard you try to ignore it. I wish I understood that! -- Brian.

Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size

2019-01-04 Thread Brian
On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 13:41:50 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 04 January 2019 12:26:07 Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 02 Jan 2019 at 22:56:22 -0500, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 9:23 PM David Wright > wrote: > > > > On Wed 02

Re: [OT] scanned files are large in size

2019-01-04 Thread Brian
On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 20:35:47 +0100, deloptes wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > and doesn't contain any embedded or subset fonts > > not heard that such are required for a jpeg or whatever image format > embedded in pdf file I reported. I am not pursuing it further

Re: Fwd: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-04 Thread Brian
On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 14:37:36 -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 07:34:59PM +0000, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 13:49:52 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > On Friday 04 January 2019 13:31:05 Nicolas George wrote: > > &g

Re: Why choose Debian on server

2019-01-04 Thread Brian
s://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/39959/raspbian-boot-pr > >ocess-and-the-partition-table > > One HUGE problem with that page. Its not printable! What the he!! good is Of course it is printable. Whatever you are doing is unknown. -- Brian.

Re: Upgrade Problem

2019-01-04 Thread Brian
On Fri 04 Jan 2019 at 14:02:27 -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > On 01/04/2019 01:11 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > > Stephen P. Molnar composed on 2019-01-04 12:57 (UTC-0500): > > > > > I haven't messed around with partitioning since the early days of > > > Slackware, and that was with a great deal of

Re: Why choose Debian on server

2019-01-05 Thread Brian
of the spammers being so far out he scores 11.8 to spamd > scanning the incoming mail. A new record here. And it started 30 > seconds after I'd filled out their plain as hell phishing form. Words of wisdom I heard recently - TANSTAAFL. -- Brian.

Re: Why choose Debian on server

2019-01-06 Thread Brian
eenshot of the whole page. screenshot filename.png --fullpage Use TAB to complete and move along the command line. The file produced is named filename-fullpage.png and is, of course, printable. -- Brian.

Re: Why choose Debian on server

2019-01-06 Thread Brian
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 10:37:48 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 06 January 2019 10:17:16 Brian wrote: [...] > > Strictly speaking, the problem does not arise due a problem in the > > printing system. Firefox produces a PDF before dispatching it for > > printing and t

Re: Why choose Debian on server

2019-01-06 Thread Brian
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 10:28:55 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 10:37:48 (-0500), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 06 January 2019 10:17:16 Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 14:42:08 +0100, deloptes wrote: [...] > > > Strictly speaking, the p

Re: Why choose Debian on server

2019-01-06 Thread Brian
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 17:05:19 +, Curt wrote: > On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote: > >> > >> I was under the impression that taking screenshots was under the > >> control of the window manager, so the key combinations might be quite > >> different for ot

Re: Why choose Debian on server

2019-01-06 Thread Brian
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 17:33:56 +, Curt wrote: > On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 17:05:19 +, Curt wrote: > > > >> On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I was under the impression that taking screenshots w

Re: Why choose Debian on server

2019-01-06 Thread Brian
tion... Done > E: Unable to locate package screenshot > gene@coyote:~/linuxcnc/nc_files$ This is on one of your ancient, unsupported wheezy machines? At least I had the grace to say which version of FF I used. You do not know what you are doing. screenshot is not a Debian package. -- Brian.

Re: Why choose Debian on server

2019-01-06 Thread Brian
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 17:47:16 +, Curt wrote: > On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote: > >> > > >> > Very awkward, I would say. Which is why it wasn't recommended. > >> > > >> > >> Oops. > >> > >> Still, Tools --> W

Re: Why choose Debian on server

2019-01-06 Thread Brian
On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 18:53:55 +, Curt wrote: > On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 17:47:16 +, Curt wrote: > > > >> On 2019-01-06, Brian wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Very awkward, I would say. Which i

Re: Why choose Debian on server

2019-01-07 Thread Brian
a screenshot, the mouse right-click is a more straightforward way than the other method. -- Brian.

Re: How to disable automatic mounting external USB devices

2019-01-07 Thread Brian
it is for "SysV init". > > As I did not chose otherwise I assume I have a straight systemd system. > > Then man page is wrong. autofs can be also used with systemd as pid 1. Maybe I am reading the wrong manual but I don't know where either of you get the idea that autofs is SysV only. -- Brian.

Re: How to disable automatic mounting external USB devices

2019-01-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 13:45:09 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/07/2019 01:35 PM, Ulf Volmer wrote: > > On 07.01.19 20:21, Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 18:52:45 +0100, Ulf Volmer wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 11:45:57AM -0600, Richard Ow

Re: Why choose Debian on server

2019-01-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 14:37:30 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 18:21:07 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 at 18:13:58 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > BTW if this Screenshot method is meant to yield a "

Re: Why choose Debian on server

2019-01-09 Thread Brian
On Wed 09 Jan 2019 at 12:47:42 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 23:51:36 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 14:37:30 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 07 Jan 2019 at 18:21:07 (+), Brian wrote: > > > > On Sun 06 Jan 2019 a

Re: Command line mounting all partitions of pluggable device

2019-01-14 Thread Brian
As in: p1, p2 etc. In the light of > Each device is normally associated with a specific function > (e.g. sneaker-net) or personal project. do you distinguish between devices by means of the label? As in pers-p1, pers-p2 etc. -- Brian.

Re: Question about changed logout behavior.

2019-01-17 Thread Brian
xperienced the same thing about a week ago. Debian user, used testing > and within the same time-frame as me. [...] Bug#918927. -- Brian.

Re: Buster: klavaro crashes with segmentation fault?

2019-01-23 Thread Brian
pendencies > > > > Can anyone running Buster install klavaro app and see if it crashes in > your setup? It's a small app, shouldn't take more than a couple of > minutes to test. Thanks Doesn't crash here. -- Brian.

Re: I'm a bit confused on how to upgrade to stretch 9.7

2019-01-25 Thread Brian
On Fri 25 Jan 2019 at 13:11:46 -0600, Kent West wrote: > # apt dist-upgrade apt full-upgrade Fortunately, dist-upgrade also works in the same way even though it is not documented in the stretch manual

Re: cups "Filter failed" | filter rastertopdf stops with status 1 | local printing works; remote printing not

2019-01-27 Thread Brian
printers/HP_Officejet_6600) and > print e.g. the testpage, the job fails with "Filter failed". [...] Please confirm that /var/log/cups/error_log (LogLevel warn) is from the client and say *exactly* what you did when you added the printer of the remote-server with localhost:631. -- Brian.

Re: cups "Filter failed" | filter rastertopdf stops with status 1 | local printing works; remote printing not

2019-01-28 Thread Brian
/2019:20:38:14 +0100] [Job 13] Started filter > /usr/lib/cups/filter/pdftopdf (PID 2563) > D [27/Jan/2019:20:38:14 +0100] [Job 13] Started filter > /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 2564) > D [27/Jan/2019:20:38:14 +0100] [Job 13] Started backend > /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp (PID 2565) > D [27/Jan/2019:20:38:14 +0100] [Job 13] PID 2561 > (/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertopwg) exited with no errors. > D [27/Jan/2019:20:38:14 +0100] [Job 13] PID 2562 > (/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertopdf) stopped with status 1. rastertopdf does not like what it given (and the system shouldn't have been given a raster file in the first place). -- Brian.

Re: trying to install Debian encrypted in an existed partition, keeping the rest as it is ...

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
Debian on a USB flash > drive. To avoid confusion, install (and update/upgrade) on a computer with > no other drives connected (so that GRUB does not create boot menu entries > for other operating systems). Use the motherboard firmware (BIOS/UEFI) boot > device hot key and/or setup program to boot Debian. Wouldn't removing os-prober save having to hunt down a driveless machine? -- Brian.

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
report.cgi?bug=791342 Whether bash is the culprit is debatable, but it has lingered there without being reassigned. See #806256 also. -- Brian.

Re: trying to install Debian encrypted in an existed partition, keeping the rest as it is ...

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 19:51:06 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 30/01/2019 à 16:01, Brian a écrit : > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 06:42:30 -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > > > > > To avoid confusion, install (and update/upgrade) on a computer with > > > no

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
-> X on tty1 crashes > > Same problem if you don't use tty1, instead logging in first on tty2, and > after on tty3? Did *you* try this? In fact, did *you* even try the procedure that hohe72 describes so well? -- Brian.

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 14:57:59 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2019-01-30 19:12 (UTC): > > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > >> hoh...@arcor.de composed on 2019-01-30 18:38 (UTC+0100): > > >> > I logge

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:54:14 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 19:12:42 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > hoh...@arcor.de composed on 2019-01-30 18:38 (UTC+0100): > > > > > > >

Re: Let's play "Where is X?" (was: logout kills X)

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 17:06:31 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2019-01-30 13:54 (UTC-0600): > > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 19:12:42 (+), Brian wrote: > > >> On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > >>> Same

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 20:33:44 +, Brian wrote: > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:54:14 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 19:12:42 (+), Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 13:48:17 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > hoh...@arcor.de compo

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-31 Thread Brian
hs ago. The behaviour on unstable is unchanged from stretch. To use tty1 for X, move ~/.bash_logout out of the way or alter it. That doesn't mean the origin of the bug doesn't involve systemd or X, but it removes the problem -- Brian

Re: logout kills X

2019-01-31 Thread Brian
On Thu 31 Jan 2019 at 12:51:05 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 31 Jan 2019 at 18:36:58 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Thu 31 Jan 2019 at 12:56:59 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > tty1 became special with the introduction of systemd. Do not use tty1 > > > fo

Re: logout kills X

2019-02-01 Thread Brian
On Fri 01 Feb 2019 at 10:54:32 -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-01-31, Brian wrote: > > > > Thank you for looking at this. I tried 'clear && reset' on unstable and > > have no complaints. Back to tty2 on after logging in and out and mouse > > and keybo

Re: What am I missing that causes this error response from the wheezy mozilla?

2019-02-05 Thread Brian
earch > returned no results, maybe because Gene doesn't have any unclaimed > property over there in WV, as I entered his name as a test case). Not a valid test. You didn't use a clapped out version of Debian. -- Brian.

Re: System d files on a Raspberry Pi

2019-02-10 Thread Brian
a reply is beyond me. Hooks are dangled. They do not have to be taken. -- Brian.

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

2019-02-11 Thread Brian
On Mon 11 Feb 2019 at 13:33:39 -0500, deb wrote: [...] > * wouldn't it be useful for the installer to Also say what exact hardware it > is, that is requiring various bits & pieces? As far as I can see, you haven't given which hardware you are using either. -- Brian.

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

2019-02-11 Thread Brian
On Mon 11 Feb 2019 at 20:42:10 +0100, Étienne Mollier wrote: > I believe I found those firmware images in the package > firmware-misc-nonfree. You can install it using: I believe you have not. https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/firmware-misc-nonfree/filelist -- Brian.

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

2019-02-11 Thread Brian
On Mon 11 Feb 2019 at 14:01:06 -0600, David Wright wrote: > Are you sure about 8625, rather than 8265? Well-spotted. https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-iwlwifi -- Brian.

Re: (Stuck! Fresh 9.6 install) iwlwifi-8625-26.ucode <- Can not find/what is it? Spot of help please?

2019-02-11 Thread Brian
On Mon 11 Feb 2019 at 17:46:19 -0500, deb wrote: > Do I gather correctly that Brian is the resident, sarcastic, cranky-pants > herein? Flatterer. -- Brian.

Re: How to Restart Networking in stretch

2019-02-14 Thread Brian
. Some desktop environment such as LXDE install Wicd > and IIRC Raspbian, a Debian derivative for the Raspberry Pi, uses dhcpcd. As an ifupdown person myself, I'll also mention connman. Nobody would be unhappy using it. -- Brian.

Re: Simplified -- Re: Quick pointer please? Installing Intel wireless, post OS installation

2019-02-22 Thread Brian
are (free or non-free) goes in /lib/firmware. -- Brian.

Re: Simplified -- Re: Quick pointer please? Installing Intel wireless, post OS installation

2019-02-22 Thread Brian
On Fri 22 Feb 2019 at 14:50:29 -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 19:10:45 + > Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 22 Feb 2019 at 13:52:02 -0500, deb wrote: > > > > > Simplified query: > > > > > > After installing Debian 9.7, without Netw

Re: Simplified -- Re: Quick pointer please? Installing Intel wireless, post OS installation

2019-02-22 Thread Brian
On Fri 22 Feb 2019 at 17:03:41 -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 20:24:40 + > Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 22 Feb 2019 at 14:50:29 -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 19:10:45 + > > > Brian wrote: > > > > &g

Re: Atril documentation problems

2019-02-27 Thread Brian
On Wed 27 Feb 2019 at 11:56:57 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > Is there a Debian package to read a PDF using a visible means of > highlighting the target text and capable of starting the search on any page > of the document? Would you care to specify which PDF reader you have in mind? -- Brian.

Re: Atril documentation problems

2019-02-27 Thread Brian
On Wed 27 Feb 2019 at 14:50:45 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 02/27/2019 01:31 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 27 Feb 2019 at 11:56:57 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > Is there a Debian package to read a PDF using a visible means of > > > highlighting the ta

Re: advice sought for program with GUI

2019-02-28 Thread Brian
n be overridden. > curty@einstein:~$ apt-cache show dialog > > This application provides a method of displaying several different types > of dialog boxes from shell scripts. This allows a developer of a script > to interact with the user in a much friendlier manner. Alternatives are zenity and yad. -- Brian.

Re: advice sought for program with GUI

2019-02-28 Thread Brian
On Thu 28 Feb 2019 at 10:24:48 -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-02-28, Brian wrote: > > >> There's 'dialog'. Not sure it can do self-explanatory buttons, though > >> (jocular remark). > > > > A default label used for a button can be overri

Re: Atril documentation problems

2019-02-28 Thread Brian
ense. > > That's for o, which just gives you the current directory. Try pressing O. Both o an O give the current directory here. The manual has nothing for O. -- Brian.

Re: Atril documentation problems

2019-02-28 Thread Brian
On Thu 28 Feb 2019 at 18:52:36 -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-02-28, Brian wrote: > > > > Pressing 'o' brings up the file browser here, but navigating away from the > >> > current directory requires modifying the 'Filter', which ain&

Re: Atril documentation problems

2019-02-28 Thread Brian
n the result of his efforts. -- Brian.

Re: Atril documentation problems

2019-02-28 Thread Brian
On Thu 28 Feb 2019 at 15:14:52 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 28 Feb 2019 at 20:23:46 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Thu 28 Feb 2019 at 11:15:05 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > [Verocious snipping but the subject under discussion is the xpdf pdf reader] > &

Re: font size printing from terminal

2019-03-01 Thread Brian
;t the use of lpr give a file not found error? -- Brian.

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