Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 11:41:39PM -0500, hobie of RMN wrote: > For 20 years I've enjoyed Mutt as my primary mail reader. I used its > 'bounce' feature to deal with HTML mails, sending them to a webmail > program on a different server. I also use Mutt. I have Mutt's mailcap set to view the t

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 08:26:26PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff blind is a > pita. I want to SEE whats available. I have never in my life felt the need to use synaptic. What am I missing out on? I just use "apt" from a termina

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 10:35:44PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > I know you won't use aptitude, so why don't you try running > synaptic on wayland, decide what changes you want, and then > use sudo apt to actually install/remove the packages. I think Gene's situation is probably also complicat

Re: Firefox lockups with kernel 6.12.6

2024-12-28 Thread George at Clug
On Saturday, 28-12-2024 at 12:34 John Hasler wrote: > As an interim solution consider installing the "New Tab Suspender v2" > extension: John, I installed the "New Tab Suspender v2" Add-on but how do you 1) configure the timer and the Tab count, 2) know if it is actually working or not? Geor

Trixie and Nvidia proprietary drivers

2024-12-28 Thread George at Clug
​Hi, After installing updates this morning, my Debian Trixie, KDE X11 installation hangs while loading Trixie with Nvidia proprietary drivers as packaged with Debian Trixie (the lockup is before the logon screen appears). My Nvidia GPU is a RTX 2070. Intel i5 processor. I did a reboot and log

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-28 Thread Chris Green
hobie of RMN wrote: > For 20 years I've enjoyed Mutt as my primary mail reader. I used its > 'bounce' feature to deal with HTML mails, sending them to a webmail > program on a different server. But now the jellyfish anti-spam daemon > won't allow me to do that; it rejects my bounced emails becau

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-28 Thread Olafur Jens Sigurdsson
On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 10:23:09AM +, Chris Green wrote: > hobie of RMN wrote: > > For 20 years I've enjoyed Mutt as my primary mail reader. I used its > > 'bounce' feature to deal with HTML mails, sending them to a webmail > > program on a different server. But now the jellyfish anti-spam d

Re: Firefox lockups with kernel 6.12.6

2024-12-28 Thread John Hasler
George writes: > I installed the "New Tab Suspender v2" Add-on but how do you 1) configure > the timer and the Tab count, 2) know if it is actually working or not? It doesn't seem to be configureable. You can tell it's working when long-unused tabs reload when you click them. There are several o

How to update fonts

2024-12-28 Thread Alain D D Williams
I am running Debian 12 - Bookworm. I occasionally see Unicode characters that do not do not display properly. Eg: 메리 크리스마스 (for the curious: this says Happy Christmas in Korean). These do however display properly on my laptop which runs Mint 21.3. I suspect that I could see them if I used the te

Re: that's disturbing

2024-12-28 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-12-28 17:12, mick.crane wrote: a couple of months ago I updated Debian from Buster to Bookworm and my roundcube/dovecot installation stopped working. Apache just presented a directory listing and my index.html link to the roundcube install displayed a config file. I thought I should get

Re: How to update fonts

2024-12-28 Thread Nicolas George
Alain D D Williams (12024-12-28): > I suspect that I could see them if I used the testing version of some package. > Which one(s) and how do I do this ? I strongly doubt a common font will be “upgraded” with Korean characters. More likely, the package is just not installed. So: find out which fon

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread David Wright
On Sat 28 Dec 2024 at 01:07:58 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > On 12/27/24 23:36, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 27 Dec 2024 at 20:26:26 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > > > When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff > > > blind is a pita. I want to SEE whats available. > > I kn

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-28 Thread Henning Follmann
Just a few additional bits added On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 10:23:09AM +, Chris Green wrote: > hobie of RMN wrote: > > For 20 years I've enjoyed Mutt as my primary mail reader. I used its > > 'bounce' feature to deal with HTML mails, sending them to a webmail > > program on a different server

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > You can run X clients on the server and remotely display that on a > workstation (i.e. something _with_ a head), but AFAIK the wayland protocol > doesn't support any sort of network transport (you can run a GUI application > on a Wayland

Correct way to stop fetchmail

2024-12-28 Thread Roger Price
I would like to stop fetchmail on Debian 11. I tried command systemctl stop fetchmail and system status fetchmail reported ● fetchmail.service - LSB: init-Script for system wide fetchmail daemon Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/fetchmail; generated) Active: inactive (dead) since Sat 2024-

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread gene heskett
On 12/28/24 09:43, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41 +, Darac Marjal wrote: You can run X clients on the server and remotely display that on a workstation (i.e. something _with_ a head), but AFAIK the wayland protocol doesn't support any sort of network transport (you c

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread gene heskett
On 12/28/24 08:24, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: On 28/12/2024 10:06, Andy Smith wrote: On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 08:26:26PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff blind is a pita. I wa

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

2024-12-28 Thread Roger Price
Thanks for your replies. I tried systemctl stop fetchmail.service I tried 4 times. then I tried /etc/init.d/fetchmail stop but although dead for 6 hours, fetchmail continued to fetch mails. So I tried root@titan ~ ps -ef | grep fetch fetchma+1264 1 0 Sep25 ?00:06:33 /u

Re: that's disturbing

2024-12-28 Thread John Boxall
Direct upgrades from N to N+2 is not supported. You ought to have first upgraded to Bullseye then to Bookworm. If you have a backup of the Buster image you could go that route and it should work, unless you have some "non-standard" things installed which would be documented in both the Bullseye and

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 23:41:39 -0500, hobie of RMN wrote: > For 20 years I've enjoyed Mutt as my primary mail reader. I used its > 'bounce' feature to deal with HTML mails, sending them to a webmail > program on a different server. But now the jellyfish anti-spam daemon > won't allow me to do t

that's disturbing

2024-12-28 Thread mick.crane
a couple of months ago I updated Debian from Buster to Bookworm and my roundcube/dovecot installation stopped working. Apache just presented a directory listing and my index.html link to the roundcube install displayed a config file. I thought I should get around to fixing it but put it off. Jus

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread Lee
On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 1:08 AM gene heskett wrote: > > > On 12/27/24 23:36, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 27 Dec 2024 at 20:26:26 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > >> When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff > >> blind is a pita. I want to SEE whats available. > > I know y

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

2024-12-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 17:21:08 +0100 (CET) Roger Price wrote: > but fetchmail goes on fetching mail. What is the correct way of > stopping fetchmail? Perhaps there is a fetchmail.timer unit that is starting up fetchmail.service from time to time? systemctl status fetchmail.timer You might also

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

2024-12-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 11:36:44 -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 17:21:08 +0100 (CET) > Roger Price wrote: > > > but fetchmail goes on fetching mail. What is the correct way of > > stopping fetchmail? > > Perhaps there is a fetchmail.timer unit that is starting up > fetchmail

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

2024-12-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 18:56:09 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > I tried 4 times. then I tried > > /etc/init.d/fetchmail stop > > but although dead for 6 hours, fetchmail continued to fetch mails. > So I tried > > root@titan ~ ps -ef | grep fetch > fetchma+1264 1 0 Sep25 ?00:06

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

2024-12-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 17:21:08 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > ● fetchmail.service - LSB: init-Script for system wide fetchmail daemon The correct way to stop a systemd service whose name you know is: systemctl stop fetchmail.service If you're entirely new to systemd, you can get by with:

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:13:18 -0500, Lee wrote: > Copy/paste is a requirement for me also. If your terminal program > doesn't do what you want, take a look at the current version of > xfce4-terminal - that has most of what I was looking for. One thing that *might* be relevant here is that X11

Re: How to update fonts

2024-12-28 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 09:09:46AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > Do you have the "fonts-recommended" package installed? That did the trick thanks - then a reboot. I might have been able to get away with a logout. I also now seem to be able to see all the emojis that my daughter sends me. Thanks

Re: How to update fonts

2024-12-28 Thread Max Nikulin
On 29/12/2024 02:28, Alain D D Williams wrote: I occasionally see Unicode characters that do not do not display properly. Eg: 메리 크리스마스 (for the curious: this says Happy Christmas in Korean). [...] They fail to display in either Mate terminal 1.26 or in Firefox 128.5 so I suspect it is a system

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 01:20:17 +0100 Rafał Lichwała wrote: > Hi, > > I plan to switch completely from Windows 11 to Debian on my laptop, > but as a first step I'd like to configure double-boot setup to give > it a try, look around and check if all hardware works fine under > Debian. > > Current s

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

2024-12-28 Thread Max Nikulin
On 28/12/2024 23:47, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 17:21:08 +0100, Roger Price wrote: root@titan ~ /etc/init.d/fetchmail --quit Not starting fetchmail daemon, disabled via /etc/default/fetchmail. The correct way to use a legacy sysv-rc init.d script to stop a service is:

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

2024-12-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 09:40:44 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 28/12/2024 23:47, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 17:21:08 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > > > root@titan ~ /etc/init.d/fetchmail --quit > > > Not starting fetchmail daemon, disabled via /etc/default/fetchmail. > > >

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

2024-12-28 Thread John Hasler
On Unstable: toncho/~ 20 systemctl cat fetchmail.service # /run/systemd/generator.late/fetchmail.service # Automatically generated by systemd-sysv-generator [Unit] Documentation=man:systemd-sysv-generator(8) SourcePath=/etc/init.d/fetchmail Description=LSB: init-Script for system wide fetchmail d

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-28 Thread George at Clug
On Sunday, 29-12-2024 at 11:20 Rafał Lichwała wrote: > Hi, > > I plan to switch completely from Windows 11 to Debian on my laptop, but > as a first step I'd like to configure double-boot setup to give it a > try, look around and check if all hardware works fine under Debian. > > Current stat

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread tomas
On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 07:46:09PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > On 12/28/24 16:41, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] > > Armbian is *NOT* Debian They do things differently there [...] > Then you are missing out on the many things a pi clone can do on 5% of an > amd64's power budget. Granted the

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread gene heskett
On 12/29/24 01:30, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 07:46:09PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 12/28/24 16:41, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [...] Armbian is *NOT* Debian They do things differently there [...] Then you are missing out on the many things a pi clone can do on 5% of

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread tomas
On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 01:56:06AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [...] > I'm running one, about a year old now, on an actual rpi4b to run my biggest > lathe, but the last arm64 installer can't find its net interface even if you > fill in the blanks.  Armbian Just Works. Why can't debian-arm? I have

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > > On 28/12/2024 10:06, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 08:26:26PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff blind > > > is a > > > pita. I want to SEE whats

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread Todd Zullinger
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41 +, Darac Marjal wrote: >> You can run X clients on the server and remotely display that on a >> workstation (i.e. something _with_ a head), but AFAIK the wayland protocol >> doesn't support any sort of network transport (you can run a GUI

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

2024-12-28 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hi, have you try /etc/init.d/fetchmail stop ? Cheers, Jerome On 28/12/2024 17:21, Roger Price wrote: I would like to stop fetchmail on Debian 11.  I tried command systemctl stop fetchmail and system status fetchmail reported  ● fetchmail.service - LSB: init-Script for system wide fetchmail

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

2024-12-28 Thread Roger Price
On Sat, 28 Dec 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 11:36:44 -0700, Charles Curley wrote: On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 17:21:08 +0100 (CET) Roger Price wrote: but fetchmail goes on fetching mail. What is the correct way of stopping fetchmail? Perhaps there is a fetchmail.timer unit t

Re: How to update fonts

2024-12-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 19:28:47 + Alain D D Williams wrote: > I occasionally see Unicode characters that do not do not display > properly. Eg: 메리 크리스마스 (for the curious: this says Happy > Christmas in Korean). Well, I don't have that font installed, so I see little boxes with the Unicode values

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread gene heskett
On 12/28/24 15:49, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 01:06:11PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 12/28/24 08:24, Andy Smith wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: Synaptic is a GUI frontend to apt. It's not really much different to aptitude, except tha

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 29 Dec 2024 at 01:20:17 (+0100), Rafał Lichwała wrote: > > I plan to switch completely from Windows 11 to Debian on my laptop, > but as a first step I'd like to configure double-boot setup to give it > a try, look around and check if all hardware works fine under Debian. > > Current state:

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread Chris Green
gene heskett wrote: > > On 12/28/24 08:24, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > >> On 28/12/2024 10:06, Andy Smith wrote: > >>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 08:26:26PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > When is that going to happen? Trying to

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

2024-12-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 22:59:19 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Roger Price (12024-12-28): > > ● fetchmail.service - LSB: init-Script for system wide fetchmail daemon > > Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/fetchmail; generated) > > Active: inactive (dead) since Sat 2024-12-28 10:37:58 CET; 6h a

qt6-svg-plugins should be a hard dependency from kde-full or task-kde-desktop

2024-12-28 Thread Christopher Andrews
I am unsure exactly what package to file this bug against, so per the recommendation I am sending to this list. I suspect this should be filed against libqt6gui6. I run debian/unstable, and my system somehow got into a state where both kde-full and task-kde-desktop is installed, but all the SV

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 01:06:11PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 12/28/24 08:24, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 12:53:41PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > Synaptic is a GUI frontend to apt. It's not really much different to > > > aptitude, except that it's maybe a bit more mo

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread gene heskett
On 12/28/24 16:41, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 01:06:11PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: armbian in the full desktop version runs noticeably slower than it runs on amd64 stuff, but its more than fast enough to run a full screen gui for a 3d printer.  I'll gladly tolerate a jus

double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-28 Thread Rafał Lichwała
Hi, I plan to switch completely from Windows 11 to Debian on my laptop, but as a first step I'd like to configure double-boot setup to give it a try, look around and check if all hardware works fine under Debian. Current state: Dell laptop (one NVMe disk only) with Windows 11 onboard. Windows

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 01:06:11PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > armbian in the full desktop version runs noticeably slower than it runs on > amd64 stuff, but its more than fast enough to run a full screen gui for a 3d > printer.  I'll gladly tolerate a just noticeable lag that never crashes, > u

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

2024-12-28 Thread Nicolas George
Roger Price (12024-12-28): > ● fetchmail.service - LSB: init-Script for system wide fetchmail daemon > Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/fetchmail; generated) > Active: inactive (dead) since Sat 2024-12-28 10:37:58 CET; 6h ago >Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8) > Process: 1250 Ex

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-28 Thread David Christensen
On 12/28/24 16:20, Rafał Lichwała wrote: Hi, I plan to switch completely from Windows 11 to Debian on my laptop, Make? Dell, below. It is better to state this information at the top of your message. Model? but as a first step I'd like to configure double-boot setup to give it a try

Re: What's best way to handle HTML emails in Mutt?

2024-12-28 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 11:41:39PM -0500 schrieb hobie of RMN: > For 20 years I've enjoyed Mutt as my primary mail reader. I used its > 'bounce' feature to deal with HTML mails, sending them to a webmail > program on a different server. But now the jellyfish anti-spam daemon > won't allow me to d

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

2024-12-28 Thread Darac Marjal
On 28/12/2024 10:06, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 08:26:26PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: When is that going to happen? Trying to maintain debian-arm stuff blind is a pita. I want to SEE whats available. I have never in my life felt the need to use synaptic. What am I missing o

Re: Trixie and Nvidia proprietary drivers

2024-12-28 Thread George at Clug
On Saturday, 28-12-2024 at 21:36 George at Clug wrote: > ​Hi, > > > After installing updates this morning, my Debian Trixie, KDE X11 > installation hangs while loading Trixie with Nvidia proprietary > drivers as packaged with Debian Trixie (the lockup is before the logon > screen appears). >