On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 01:06:11PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > armbian in the full desktop version runs noticeably slower than it runs on > amd64 stuff, but its more than fast enough to run a full screen gui for a 3d > printer. I'll gladly tolerate a just noticeable lag that never crashes, > uptimes from kernel update to kernel update, with klipper/moonraker/fluidd > feeding nginx, broadcasting to any web browser in the house that is watching > aliasname:80, in exchange for an 18 watt power draw (including its 24" AOL > monitor) while sitting idle between jobs. I use firefox to localhost:80 on > the local machine actually running the printer at speeds around 10x what it > could do OOTB 4 years ago when it was new. >
Armbian is *NOT* Debian They do things differently there. Some of their images are based on Ubuntu, others on Debian. They usually use the BSP - Board Support Package - from the hardware vendor but that could be using any kernel. We've gone through all of this multiple times, Gene: the reason no one can support you on Armbian is because it's basically a different and unknown quantity. It may be sufficently similar that we can extrapolate but it's like taking a Volkswagen into a Toyota dealer and anticipating they can fix it immediately with no prior knowledge. It might be like taking an EV into your friendly mechanic who has never seen one - who knows how long the learning curve is for all of us. That's before we get into the fact that most of us have never seen a BananaPi 5 and never will. <snippage: interesting stuff on how to get lathes, machine tools, 3D printers to play nicely but irrelevant here> > > I've got to get my web page up again, I lost it when those two seagate 2T > drives went offline at 2 weeks accumulated runtime as I was trying make > bookworm run now 18 months ago. It runs when it gets around to it, opening a > local file is an automatic lockup for 30 seconds. And no one has identified > that problem. Around 30 fresh installs with the only usb plugged in being > the wireless button for logitek keyboard/mouse but I still get orca and > brltty yelling every keystroke at me thru my speakers. Yet when I question > the broken bookworm installer, I catch hell from the powers that be here. > Total denial that the problem exists has been the universal response. > The lock ups are indeterminate because you can't ever tell us what you've done to get into this state. At this point, bringing up orca and brltty is once again old news and not relevant. Ten days or two weeks ago, you promised that this would be the end of this because you'd go and finally do a clean install as install 31. Please do so - simplify everything, unmount your RAID until you've done a basic install and come back when you can show history of what you've done. I don't deny that you have problems but the vagueness of response over a period of years doesn't help you plead your case. And the bookworm install isn't irremediably broken - thousands of installs by other people suggest that the problem may be yours and yours alone. > > <snippage of similar incomprehension of exactly what it is you are doing from Andy Smith> All the very best, as ever, Andrew Cater (amaca...@debian.org) > Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. > - Louis D. Brandeis >
