Re: email server setup

2003-08-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, gerard wrote: > I wrote a little how to for setting up cyrus IMAP, if you want to check that > out. http://devslash.org/?topic=cyrus The newer version supports SSL as > well. You ARE aware that your tutorial covers the ancient and obsolete Cyrus IMAPd version 1.5, don't you?

Re: kernel 2.6 how-to

2003-08-29 Thread James Horey
--- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 12:58:50 -0700 (PDT), James > Horey wrote: > > > mount: /dev2/root2 is not a valid block device > > mount: /dev2/root2 is not a valid block device > > mount: you must specify the filesystem type > > pivot_root: No such file or direct

permissions on .X11-unix file

2003-08-29 Thread Greg Madden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am using Woody with KDE from KDE.org. I tried an experiment , I removed KDM (didn't like the results) then reinstalled it. Now my box no longer boots to the KDM Greeter. The failure is due to the /tmp/.X11-unix directory having the wrong permissio

Re: problem setting up locales

2003-08-29 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Friday 29 Aug 2003 12:02 am, Slava Mikerin wrote: > hello, > i am having a problem with locales package > configuration. > here is the printout: > .. > Setting up locales (2.3.2-4) ... > Generating locales... > Leave.alone...cannot open locale definition file > `Leave': No such file or dir

Re: Power off

2003-08-29 Thread Frank Hrebabetzky
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Nicos Gollan wrote: > On Tuesday 26 August 2003 21:50, Frank Hrebabetzky wrote: > > My computer doesn't switch off upon 'shutdown -h now', so I looked around > > on the net and found: > > > > To switch the power off on shutdown in Linux: > > - Compile apm into the kernel > > -

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Alan Shutko
Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I agree. When I was learning C, I was taught to *always* use brackets, even > when they weren't necessarily, specifically to make it easier to expand: I've never understood people who are religious about that. It's the same amount of effort whether yo

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:08:56PM -0700, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > Ron Johnson said on Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:16:22PM -0500: > > With tight budgets and tight schedules, I've *never* seen a project > > rewritten. > > Rewriting from scratch is dangerous anyway; you exchange all of the > bugs you kno

Re: VIA CPU's

2003-08-29 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 07:00:37AM +0200, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > --- Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi?: > > > > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, [iso-8859-1] Roberto Sanchez wrote: > > > > > > On the other hand, my 1GHz Athlon plays FPS games well, but sounds > > > > like a Boeing 737 is parked 2.5m

Re: Unidentified subject!

2003-08-29 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:01:07AM -0400, Murray J. Brown wrote: > First, you can decide whether you really need/want that i2c function and > choose whether or not to be bothered looking into it further. ;-) If > so, then make sure all your modules are up to-date by rebuilding the > whole kernel

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 05:01:05AM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 04:41, Steve Lamb wrote: > --snip-- > > Yeah, on supported languages. I don't see the point of having a tool to > > shoehorn the code into one bracket style and another tool to shoehorn it into > > a diffe

Re: Debian and KDE (Update 2)

2003-08-29 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 03:54:12PM +0100, Peter Nuttall wrote: > Note: for changing perrmissions, which is what we are doing here, there is a > faster way from the command line. If any one knows this please post it. man chmod -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.ed

Re: Faked From-Adress with my domain on them

2003-08-29 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 07:18:57AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:52:42PM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > > He isn't. He's using [EMAIL PROTECTED] Something at your end is seeing > > the '@localhost' and rewriting it to your domain name. > > That's not right, either. Sending some

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread John Hasler
Alan Shutko writes: > It's the same amount of effort whether you do it when you first write the > if, or when you add something to it (ie, minimal). The only difference I > see is that if you _don't_ later add something to the if, you've wasted > that effort. The problem with omitting the braces

webmin monitor status

2003-08-29 Thread Dominique Fortier
I receive this from cron about /etc/webmin/status/monitor.pl sh: - : unrecognized option Usage: sh [GNU long option] [option] ... sh [GNU long option] [option] script-file ... GNU long options: --debug --dump-po-strings --dump-strings --help --init-

[MailServer Notification]To Sender file blocking settings matched and action was taken.

2003-08-29 Thread System Attendant
ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange took action on the message. The message details were: Sender = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recipient(s) = [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Subject = Re: That movie Scanning time = 08/28/2003 20:53:54 Engine/Pattern = 6.640-1001/622 Action taken on message: The attachment movie0045.pif ma

Re: Funny failure of a CR system on debian-devel

2003-08-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:08:26 -0500, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I wrote: >> It didn't say that the secret had been received, only that >> debian-devel had been whitelisted. Nost likely, the user did so >> manually. > manoj writes: >> And elected to recieve a message obviously spam a

Re: how to get ssh-agent to work again?

2003-08-29 Thread HdV
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Alexander Koch wrote: > I was using gdm for some time and it worked nicely. > At some point I was only using xinit and it worked > and only with xinit I have my umlauts (tricky case, > long story). > > Now, where do I have to put ssh-agent in my .xinitrc > or so so that all te

[MailServer Notification]To Sender file blocking settings matched and action was taken.

2003-08-29 Thread System Attendant
ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange took action on the message. The message details were: Sender = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Recipient(s) = [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Subject = Re: Re: My details Scanning time = 08/28/2003 21:10:56 Engine/Pattern = 6.640-1001/622 Action taken on message: The attachment movie0045.pi

Re: VIA CPU's - noise

2003-08-29 Thread Alvin Oga
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Pigeon wrote: > > > the cpu doesn't make any noise :-) ( sorry couldn't resist ) > > It makes LOTS of noise... try listening to an AM radio placed anywhere > near the PC... it just doesn't make any sound :-) :-) dont think we were referring to emi noise .. and yeah, if

Re: Funny failure of a CR system on debian-devel

2003-08-29 Thread Tom Allison
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:08:26 -0500, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: I wrote: It didn't say that the secret had been received, only that debian-devel had been whitelisted. Nost likely, the user did so manually. manoj writes: And elected to recieve a message obvi

Re: email server setup

2003-08-29 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Joyce, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Dear Debian-Users, > > Could someone direct me to a step by step guide to setting up a mail sever. > SMTP,IMAP is required, SSL for both would be preferable but not essential. > See http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=7460/uni1032893910897/ur02

Re: Knoppix - observations

2003-08-29 Thread alex
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: I downloaded the Knoppix CD. Booting with it gets: 1. It does find everything, but not perfectly, e.g. the X screen. 2. I have a slowmodem to get onto the internet and for some reason I had to manually fill in the /etc/resolve.conf for anything to be found. Restoring a partit

Installing Debian on IBM Thinkpad X24

2003-08-29 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
So I got myself one of these nifty things. It's really nice but it won't be perfect until I can get Debian on it. The problem is doesn't have a floppy or cd drive. I did notice it can boot from the network. Would it be possible to do some kind of TFTP type deal? It's running Win2k now fwiw. (

Re: Knoppix - observations

2003-08-29 Thread alex
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: I downloaded the Knoppix CD. Booting with it gets: 1. It does find everything, but not perfectly, e.g. the X screen. 2. I have a slowmodem to get onto the internet and for some reason I had to manually fill in the /etc/resolve.conf for anything to be found. Forgot to mention

apt-get online question

2003-08-29 Thread Darryl Barlow
I would suggest using the netselect package. Assuming it is not already installed, use; apt-get install netselect Then run; netselect-apt stable(or testing or unstable as the case may be). This will generate a new sources.list file in the directory from which you run the command. If y

Galeon & antialiased fonts

2003-08-29 Thread Oki DZ
Hi, It is said that Galeon uses Gecko, the Mozilla's rendering system. But the Sid's Galeon couldn't display the fonts nicely. Is there anything that I should setup on Galeon's preferences? (I didn't see any, though.) Thanks in advance, Oki -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Mike Mueller
On Thursday 28 August 2003 18:05, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > John Hasler said on Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 04:16:28PM -0500: > > Mark Ferlatte writes: > > > If your company tolerates internal politics, well, you're going to be > > > in trouble when your competitor, who doesn't tolerate that kind of > > > cr

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 14:50, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:35:25 +0200 > Francois Bottin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Compare it with SUN's recomendations for Java (but useable also for C): > > if (cond) { > > block; > > } else { > > block; > > } > > > In this case I find i

RE: compatible FS between linux and wind

2003-08-29 Thread Darryl Barlow
The best solution if you want to use ntfs for windows is probably to create a small vfat partition to use to transfer files. Linux can read ntfs with no problems. but write support is experimental and dangerous. So far as Windows is concerned, I am not aware of any applications which would all

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Alan Shutko
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The problem with omitting the braces is that people sometimes add something > to the "block" and forget to add the braces. Wow. I've worked with some dunderheads, and not even they have done this. You've really had experience with folks like this?! --

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Steve Lamb wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:52:35 -0600 Jacob Anawalt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Was this code on a Unix system, or did you have one nearby? Did you know about the indent program at the time? (man indent) It _seems_ to work for me to convert someone elses sytle (or lack of

Re: Galeon & antialiased fonts

2003-08-29 Thread Edward Murrell
apt-get install mozilla-xft (ttf-freefont will probably help as well) Regards Edward On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 14:46, Oki DZ wrote: > Hi, > > It is said that Galeon uses Gecko, the Mozilla's rendering system. But > the Sid's Galeon couldn't display the fonts nicely. Is there anything > that I sho

Please test iRATE radio

2003-08-29 Thread Michael D. Crawford
Friends, iRATE radio is nearing its 0.2.1 release. Many significant problems have been solved, so it is thought this release will dramatically increase its popularity. But we need your help in testing before the release, to discover any remaining problems before its release. From http://irat

procmail filters

2003-08-29 Thread gerard
I am trying to filter some mail as a user using the .procmailrc file in the home directoty. For instance I want to move incoming email to for example the folder Debian Users. Does anyone know if there is a good howto or how to do this? ~gerard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wit

系统回复

2003-08-29 Thread huzujun
您好! 您的邮件已经收到!谢谢! smartgood:hu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Need help with mutt

2003-08-29 Thread Paul E Condon
I want to change the way mutt displays email. Mutt displays a bunch of stuff that starts with Envelope-to: and continues thru X-Spam-Status: to Resent-Bcc: My use of email is fairly simple minded, and I seldom give much attention to this stuff unless something in the body of the message makes me w

Onboard Promise RAID WAS:Re: compatible FS between linux and windows

2003-08-29 Thread AnotherLinuxGuy
Ok, thanks for all the help with the FS question, now i have a new one, i have an Asus A7V333 board and it has the Promise Chip onboard PDC20276, i have 2 80gigs hooked up and when it boots it goes into the fasttrack133 bios where it RAID 0 the two drives, i formatted them in FAT32 so both win and

Re: Onboard Promise RAID WAS:Re: compatible FS between linux and windows

2003-08-29 Thread Roberto Sanchez
--- AnotherLinuxGuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Ok, thanks for all the help with the FS question, now i have a new one, > i have an Asus A7V333 board and it has the Promise Chip onboard > PDC20276, i have 2 80gigs hooked up and when it boots it goes into the > fasttrack133 bios where it RAID

Re: procmail filters

2003-08-29 Thread Lou Losee
* gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-28 23:59]: > I am trying to filter some mail as a user using the .procmailrc file in the > home directoty. For instance I want to move incoming email to for example > the folder Debian Users. Does anyone know if there is a good howto or how to > do this? > man

ssh preinst script returns exit status 10

2003-08-29 Thread Drew Vogel
Yesterday I was using dselect to update my system (unstable packages). It was generating the en_US locales when the machine spontaneously rebooted. After the machine booted back up, debconf's database was corrupt. This prevented dselect from installing the last few packages, which included ssh.

Re: Need help with mutt

2003-08-29 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:59:58PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I want to change the way mutt displays email. Mutt displays > a bunch of stuff that starts with Envelope-to: and continues > thru X-Spam-Status: to Resent-Bcc: Add this to your muttrc: ignore * unignore from date subject to cc un

Re: Need help with mutt

2003-08-29 Thread Lou Losee
* Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-29 00:04]: > I want to change the way mutt displays email. Mutt displays > a bunch of stuff that starts with Envelope-to: and continues > thru X-Spam-Status: to Resent-Bcc: > > My use of email is fairly simple minded, and I seldom give > much attention

devfs backward compat. problem

2003-08-29 Thread hastings
Hi all, firstly please excuse possible line wrap problems and lack of my usual gpg signature. I'm sending this via squirrel mail for reasons described below. I'm running sid with a 2.6.0-test2 kernel with devfs. Yesterday I did a dist-upgrade and then shut down. The devfsd package was _not_ upgra

Re: apt-get online question

2003-08-29 Thread William Bradley
On Thursday 28 August 2003 07:06 pm, James LeClair wrote: > Bill wrote: > > When installing Debian I was asked if I want to use apt-get online or > > from cdrom. I chose cdrom but now I would like to go on line. Do I have > > to go through the dbconfig again, or is there another way of doing it. I

Getting KDE 3.1

2003-08-29 Thread William Bradley
Presently Debian Woody ships with KDE 2.2.2. I would like to upgrade it to KDE 3.1, which I believe is available in the unstable Debian. There must be a way I can get at it with apt-get but at this stage of my experience I don't know how this is done. Thank you, Bill. -- William Bradley Com

2.4 kernel, sis900 module, won't work

2003-08-29 Thread Geoffrey Prewett
Hi, I recently bought a Sony GRT-170 laptop and have been trying to install Debian on it. I have been successful in getting 2.2.20 (3.0r1) to both boot and have network (sis900) support. Unfortunately, 2.4 kernels refuse to work. modprobe sis900 works great, but the network simply does not work

Re: Installing on a Dell Latitude C400

2003-08-29 Thread Jon Haugsand
* nori heikkinen > no, but you might try passing the option 'video=vga16:off' to the > kernel at boot time ... so instead of just hitting enter to install, > type: > > linux video=vga16:off > > and see if that fixes it. shot in the dark, but it worked for me on > my dell inspiron 8000[1]. You'r

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Jacob Anawalt
bob parker wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:13, Jacob Anawalt wrote: bob parker wrote: C is easier to learn than shell scripting, the elements at least, much less Perl. I personally find it quicker to code a dirty fix in C than anything else and would not really consider shell programming for

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:29:52 -0500 Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've never understood people who are religious about that. It's the > same amount of effort whether you do it when you first write the if, > or when you add something to it (ie, minimal). The only difference I > see is th

Re: OT: Debian Mailinglist server slow?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 07:16:03AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Before MSBlaster & sobig.f made their appearance, the debian- lists > were responding very quickly. I seem to recall a lot of people bitching about slow lists before all that happened. -

Re: OT: Debian Mailinglist server slow?

2003-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:45:34 -0700 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I seem to recall a lot of people bitching about slow lists before all > that happened. Yeah, 'round the last MS virus that hit. It was snappy recently. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your

Re: OT: Debian Mailinglist server slow?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 08:54:47AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > You could just sit tight and be patient during the slow times, or you > > could donate more resources to help combat the crap that wastes the > > resources SPI already has. > > So, in ot

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 04:15:13PM +0200, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:50:11 +0200, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > While I haven't learned much C yet (I can read it better than I write > > it), I do have to ask this one: It's possible

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 10:14:14AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > Absolutely. In fact, it's probably a good idea to learn C++ without knowing > C first in that you'll probably be much more comfortable with the style if > you're not subconsciously viewi

Re: DNAT

2003-08-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mattia Martinello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.08.29.0112 +0200]: > iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth1 -d $PublicIP -j DNAT > --to $ServerIP This works? > This DOESN'T work! > iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i ppp0 -d $PublicIP --dport > 80 -j DNAT --to $ServerIP:80 Plea

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:08:56PM -0700, Mark Ferlatte wrote: Ron Johnson said on Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:16:22PM -0500: With tight budgets and tight schedules, I've *never* seen a project rewritten. Rewriting from scratch is dangerous anyway; you exchange all o

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:02:23PM -0500, Michael Heironimus wrote: > The world jumped off the IBM PC cliff, so we're still dealing with some > of the design mistakes IBM made the first time around. And then people discovered they didn't have to jump

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 01:59:57PM -0700, Deryk Barker wrote: > Nor does it help that the best-selling C book ever is, ahem, > less-than-superbly-written. Yeah, the New Testament needs to be reworked seriously (would it get nicknamed "Book of Mormon?

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Erik Steffl
Joey Hess wrote: Steve Lamb wrote: That's just it, I don't like C indenting any more, period. It isn't "someone else's style" that is the problem, it is the fact that it is the antithesis of how I've grown to like to code. Lemme put it this way: C: if foo bar; That's bad style unless you

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 04:35:25PM +0200, Francois Bottin wrote: > Compare it with SUN's recomendations for Java (but useable also for C): > if (cond) { > block; > } else { > block; > } > > In this case I find it much better than the GNU Codin

Re: how to get ssh-agent to work again?

2003-08-29 Thread Alexander Koch
Hi James, that was it, thanks a bunch! Alexander On Thu, 28 August 2003 15:51:06 -0400, James Strandboge wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 13:11, Alexander Koch wrote: > > Now, where do I have to put ssh-agent in my .xinitrc > > exec /usr/bin/gnome-session > use: > exec ssh-agent /usr/bin/gnome-ses

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Ron Johnson wrote: Speed is over-rated. Lets take my MUA, Evolution, for example. It's not processor intensive. Why couldn't it be written in Python? Ok, I refrained from the last Evolution comment about "if CLI program X had menus, I'd drop Evolution", but "It's not processor intensive,"

Re: cdr into jpg

2003-08-29 Thread Stefan Waidele jun.
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:38:56 +0300, "Melih Evcimen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I want to transform an image in cdr into jpg format. Do you know of any program that will do it? Thanks a lot .._many_, 'apropos jpg' or 'man -k jpg' for suggestions

Re: devfs backward compat. problem (solved)

2003-08-29 Thread Nick Hastings
Hi again, * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030829 14:36]: > Hi all, > > firstly please excuse possible line wrap problems and lack of my usual gpg > signature. I'm sending this via squirrel mail for reasons described below. Yay, no more web mail. > I'm running sid with a 2.6.0-test2 ker

Re: Command line printing

2003-08-29 Thread Stefan Waidele jun.
Wayne Gemmell wrote: Hi You seem to be tackling many problems at once. First get the network printing to work, and then OOo. Also, from what you wrote below, I assume you use CUPS instead of Samba for network printing. Can you use cups to print from a win$ computer? Ah, that way around. So the pr

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 05:29:52PM -0500, Alan Shutko wrote: > I've never understood people who are religious about that. It's the > same amount of effort whether you do it when you first write the if, > or when you add something to it (ie, minimal).

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 10:44:13PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > It's called maintainability. Who says *you* are going to be the next > person to touch the code? Yeah, but some people also like to ensure their job security, apparently. http://www.ex

Getting XFree 4.3?

2003-08-29 Thread Jon Haugsand
My Dell Latitude needs XFree 4.3, but I'm not sure how to get it for my Woody laptop. Trying: apt-get install x-window-system=4.3 Reading Package Lists... Building Dependency Tree... E: Version '4.3' for 'x-window-system' was not found This is my sources.list: deb http://ftp.no.debian.org/debi

Re: Knoppix - observations

2003-08-29 Thread Johann Spies
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 10:33:55PM -0400, alex wrote: > Did you install KNOPPIX on your hard drive or did you just run > it off the CD? It works much better on the hard drive especially > after you do the apt-get update. > > To install on your hard drive: > > http://www.freenet.org.nz/misc/kno

Re: devfs backward compat. problem (solved)

2003-08-29 Thread Todd Pytel
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 15:11:00 +0900 Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The last line of > this file must be malformed. I simply commented it out. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 17% cat /etc/devfs/conf.d/alsa > # device permissions for ALSA sound devices. > REGISTER ^snd/.*PERMISSIONS root.au

X-Terminal laptops?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 11:28:05AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > across a "very, very slow" link that is VNC to display it on a "very, very > very... uh... very slow" laptop. Even with all that inefficiency built into I'm amazed nobody's come up wit

Re: diagnosis - was Re: some reality about iptables, please

2003-08-29 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 02:35, Jacob Anawalt wrote: [snip] Browser from Linux account or in VMWare Win98 works? Try both and let us know. IE from Win98 works, Mozilla from Debian doesn't. With these rules, samba couldn't restore the mapped drive I have from Wi

Re: Getting XFree 4.3?

2003-08-29 Thread Nick Hastings
* Jon Haugsand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030829 16:01]: > My Dell Latitude needs XFree 4.3, but I'm not sure how to get it for > my Woody laptop. Trying: > > deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free > deb http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/i386/ ./ > > (

Re: devfs backward compat. problem (solved)

2003-08-29 Thread Nick Hastings
* Todd Pytel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030829 16:11]: > On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 15:11:00 +0900 > Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The last line of > > this file must be malformed. I simply commented it out. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ 17% cat /etc/devfs/conf.d/alsa > > # device permissions

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2003 #2558

2003-08-29 Thread Darryl Barlow
I installed Woody on a similar raid array. Woody recognised the array and the setup proceeded normally, even partitioning and formatting. My understanding is that you would not normally format each disk separately, at least not for Raid0. I do not have access to the particular machine at the

Re: X-Terminal laptops?

2003-08-29 Thread steve downes
on Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 12:26:57AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > I'm amazed nobody's come up with x terminals in laptop form factor... > It's a cost versus quantity thing. I've been using an old dell P133 laptop with the hard disc removed as a silent laptop ltsp for a few months now & it's gre

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 08:06:22PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Starting up KDE applications outside KDE (often?) requires starting up a > number of random daemons which are normally running if you use KDE for > everything. Better than each program re

Re: Getting KDE 3.1

2003-08-29 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello William Bradley (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > Presently Debian Woody ships with KDE 2.2.2. I would like to upgrade > it to KDE 3.1, which I believe is available in the unstable Debian. > There must be a way I can get at it with apt-get but at this stage of > my experience I don't know how

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:10:10PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2003-08-28T18:15:09Z, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > SDLC! What a joke! > > OK, I'll bite. Does everyone here honestly hate software engineering? Or > is it that they haven't

Re: Getting XFree 4.3?

2003-08-29 Thread Jon Haugsand
* Nick Hastings > apt-get install xserver-xfree86 Why did it work to write: apt-get install x-window-system -- Jon Haugsand, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norges-bank.no -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: LVM installation

2003-08-29 Thread Jørgen Hermanrud Fjeld
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:30:13AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > Jørgen Hermanrud Fjeld wrote: > >Appending "devfs=mount" as a kernel boot parameter will mount devfs from > >the > >start, then you don't have to wait for devfsd to do the mounting. > > > >Sincerely > >Jørgen > > > > > That's what I wa

Re: Your details

2003-08-29 Thread listmaster
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Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Anders Arnholm
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:32:07PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 11:06, Alan Shutko wrote: > > Anders Arnholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > So, basically, you don't like Python because your text editor is > > junk. Fix it or go find a real editor! > Heck, vim in default mode

programmatic access to framegrabber

2003-08-29 Thread martin f krafft
I need access to the data provided by a framegrabber in a program (C or C++). I have two questions about that: - Does anyone have experience with libbgrab[1]? Is it usable? Good? I would package it for Debian if it is a good library. - Does anyone know of other ways to acquire data from t

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Anders Arnholm
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:26:11PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:20:07 -0700 > Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Indention isn't magically lost and you're speaking of copies. The problem > in all those cases lays in the transport or in the person who doesn't know > w

Re: Kernel vs driver question

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 10:41:25AM -0700, Larry wrote: > Other than generating an entirely new kernel, is there > a way to get this driver happy with this kernel? Recompile the module in question against the source you used to get your kernel. - --

Re: compatible FS between linux and windows

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 03:05:32PM -0400, AnotherLinuxGuy wrote: > is fat32/16 the only FS that windows can see and write to the same with > linux? i want to run a dual boot machine, and have a couple HDs that > both OSs can write too etc, is a FAT FS

Re: compatible FS between linux and windows

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 07:26:58PM -0400, gerard wrote: > linux can read FAT32/16, and NTFS. There are also a couple programs that can > read linux partitions from windows Check out Explore2fs No writing to NTFS, though. - -- .''`. Paul Jo

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Anders Arnholm
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:55:56PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 09:10, Anders Arnholm wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:46:09AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Lets take my MUA, Evolution, for example. It's not processor > > > intensive. Why couldn't it be written in Pyth

Re: FW: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:06:23AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Or the poster doesn't know much about Java. Having used Java, I'd > say that Java isn't good for small programs/quick hacks. And what I've seen of the larger stuff in Java, it's horrably

Re: FW: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 10:47:10AM -0400, David Z Maze wrote: > Java is garbage-collected That's not entirely true, or Java would have self-collected before I hit high school. 8:o) - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'`

Fwd: Re: Slow CD burning with k3b, cdrecord

2003-08-29 Thread Christof Hurschler
Hello Andreas, oops, that was a typo in the original message. I can only write about 4x, which one can see from the diagnostics in the original message. Sorry. I'll check the permissions on the files you mention, but I used k3bsetup which should have set the rights properly. Thanks --- Weiter

Re: FW: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 06:01:54PM +0200, Thomas Krennwallner wrote: > For me its clear: use the language you think is good for completing a > given task. I know you cannot always make this decision but if you have > the chance, choose carefully ;-) B

Re: Faked From-Adress with my domain on them

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 01:04:51AM +0100, Pigeon wrote: > Eh? I meant he's sending everything _from_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] sure, > if he was sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] we wouldn't be having this > discussion :-) OK, but I'm not entirely convinced he's

Re: Debian Networking problems

2003-08-29 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:39:42PM +0200, Ronnie Tarkas wrote: > Now, I can't connect to the Debian server, from my WinXP computer, > via our local network, nor can I access it by FTP. What have you tried to solve this on your own? That'll give us a

Re: email server setup -- SASL

2003-08-29 Thread Tom Allison
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, gerard wrote: I wrote a little how to for setting up cyrus IMAP, if you want to check that out. http://devslash.org/?topic=cyrus The newer version supports SSL as well. You ARE aware that your tutorial covers the ancient and obsolete Cyrus

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Anders Arnholm
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:46:43PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:10:33 +0200 > Anders Arnholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One of the main reasons is that Python leaves a loot of the resolving to > > runtime, that means that the code actually has to be run before you can > > s

Re: CD players not working although sound otherwise fine - SOLVED

2003-08-29 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 29 Aug 2003, Edward Murrell wrote: > Try chmod 770 /dev/hdc > Other than that, try running it as root. One thing you may find useful > as a side note is the digital CD plugin for XMMS. > > apt-get install xmms-cdread > > It enables reading of CD's so the digital-analog conversion is done on >

Re: Getting XFree 4.3?

2003-08-29 Thread Nick Hastings
* Jon Haugsand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030829 18:09]: > * Nick Hastings > > apt-get install xserver-xfree86 > > Why did it work to write: > > apt-get install x-window-system Because x-window-system is a meta-package that depends on x-window-system-core, which is another meta-package which depends o

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:41:45 +0200 Anders Arnholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So you don't copy from example web-pages and so on when trying to learn > about a new feature, area and so on. I do that aloot and thats is the > biggest problem with Python. I do and it hasn't caused me any proble

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