Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Darryl Barlow
Obvously we all owe a lot to RMS, but this does not of course mean that we must agree with him. He is an idealist, and his solution to the problems raised by "non-free" software are in my view at one extreme of the spectrum. I respect his views though I do not entirely agree with them. His at

Problem with X

2003-08-18 Thread Hooman
Hello everybody, I have installed Debian Linux on my machine at home and I have problems starting X-window system on it. Consequently, no desktop manager will run. The machine is a Pentium-III 800MHz with 512 MB of RAM. I have a NVidia RIVA TNT2 graphics card and an OPTIQUEST V775 monitor. When I

Re: raid question

2003-08-18 Thread Rudy Gevaert
Hi Alvin, On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 02:25:39PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > > I was wondering can I set up raid when a partition is mounted? > > e.g. hda3 is /home and I want to set up raid1 with hdc3. > > you can do the "mirroring" ( raid1 ) of hda3 to hdc3 > > but if you expect to boot off hdc

Re: lost in a sea of iptables docs

2003-08-18 Thread Jesse Meyer
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: > I want to get iptables running on my laptop. I'm behind a > gateway/router now, but I'll be on the road in a few weeks. > > I see lots of docs about what rules to write for doing this, stopping > that, etc. > > Where do I put them? > > How do

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Rudy Gevaert
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 09:52:29PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I just looked at www.gnu.org. Found lots of idealistic stuff that lots of > people have never read. The only distribution that I found mentioned > under "Links to Other Free Software Sites" was "Debian GNU/Linux". > Not Redhat, SuSe,

Re: ACPI sleep - time/date problem

2003-08-18 Thread Damien Solley
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 01:29, Paul Miller wrote: > I'm trying to get ACPI sleep working on a Dell I8500 laptop. Currently, > it will go to sleep, but the time/date also go to sleep. When it wakes > up, Linux reports the time/date that it went to sleep. Is there some way > to automatically save th

Re: Turn on the service

2003-08-18 Thread Jon Haugsand
* Mike Mueller > On Friday 15 August 2003 13:31, Victory wrote: > >> How to install and turn on/off rsh, telnet and ftp server/service for >> Debian 3.0r1??? I am new to Debian > > any reason not to choose ssh and scp for remote access and file transfer? One reason is to enable lazy windowists to

Re: lost in a sea of iptables docs

2003-08-18 Thread David Purton
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 11:38:42PM -0400, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: > I want to get iptables running on my laptop. I'm behind a > gateway/router now, but I'll be on the road in a few weeks. > > I see lots of docs about what rules to write for doing this, stopping > that, etc. > > Where do I pu

Re: lost in a sea of iptables docs

2003-08-18 Thread HdV
On 17 Aug 2003, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: > I want to get iptables running on my laptop. I'm behind a > gateway/router now, but I'll be on the road in a few weeks. > > I see lots of docs about what rules to write for doing this, stopping > that, etc. > > Where do I put them? > > How do I start

[OT] Is RMS a Star Trek fan??

2003-08-18 Thread Ron Johnson
Quote from Harcourt Fenton Mudd, on the Star Trek:TOS episode "I, Mudd" "Knowledge should be free for all." I couldn't stop laughing... -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "Perl is worse than Python becaus

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread João Miguel Neves
A Dom, 2003-08-17 às 10:24, David Fokkema escreveu: > I don't know. I just installed vrms and checked my system: > > No non-free packages installed on sirius! rms would be proud. > > I don't really know what RMS is talking about. Just that it is > _possible_ to install non-free software makes De

Re: Debian Installation on Apple's PowerBook G4

2003-08-18 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 10:15:38PM +0200, Christian Banik wrote: > my problem is partition the HD. I will use MacOSX and Linux. I've got > the following questions: > You'll have a better chance of getting useful answers if you ask on debian-powerpc instead of debian-user > -Can i use the root

Re: Problem with X

2003-08-18 Thread Stephane
Le Mon, 18 Aug 2003 03:47:47 -0400 (EDT) Hooman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a dit: > Hello everybody, > I have installed Debian Linux on my machine at home > and I have problems starting X-window system on it. > Consequently, no desktop manager will run. The machine > is a Pentium-III 800MHz with 512 MB o

Re: Turn on the service

2003-08-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:14:05AM +0200, Jon Haugsand wrote: > * Mike Mueller > > On Friday 15 August 2003 13:31, Victory wrote: > >> How to install and turn on/off rsh, telnet and ftp server/service for > >> Debian 3.0r1??? I am new to Debian > > > > any reason not to choose ssh and scp for remot

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:13:08AM +0100, Jo?o Miguel Neves wrote: > From my point of view, the issue with debian and non-free software has > less to do with the non-free repository, and more with installers. You > can find a bunch of them by doing: > > apt-cache search installer > > These are fr

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 09:52:29PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:12:13AM +0800, Isaac To wrote: > > Different people have different opinions, and the fact that www.gnu.org > > decided not to have a link to Debian means that the crews in www.gnu.org > ^^^

Re: apt-get install c-compiler

2003-08-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 07:45:17AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > # apt-get install c-compiler 2>&-|awk '/^ /{print $1}'|xargs -r dpkg -l|grep ^i > ii gcc-3.03.0.4-13 The GNU C compiler. > ii gcc-3.33.3.1-0pre0The GNU C compiler > ii gcc-3.23.2

Re: /var/lib/dpkg/available a day behind apt

2003-08-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 09:48:54AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > Gentlemen, my /var/lib/dpkg/available file always seems a day behind > apt: Sounds like you're using 'apt-get update' instead of 'dselect update'. Don't. > P.S. Is it normal to have a /var/lib/dpkg/lock always present 24 hours > a da

Re: [OT] Is RMS a Star Trek fan??

2003-08-18 Thread Carl Fink
I don't know about Trek in particular, but rms is a science fiction fan and has written at least one story. He was one of the Guests of Honor at I-Con (at my invitation) in 2002. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] I-Con Internet Liason and Postmaster -- To UNSUBSCR

chattr and symlinks

2003-08-18 Thread Johann Spies
I have a disk space problem on my ftp-server. I have moved the "dists" section of the debian archive to another disk and made a symlink to the normal mirror. The mirror script (I am using rsync) now overwrites that symlink with a normal directory. I want to prevent this and want rsync to follow t

NVIDIA driver (nvidia-kernel-source)

2003-08-18 Thread Michael Bonert
>> I can see a nvidia module in /lib/modules: >> /lib/modules/2.4.18-bf2.4/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.o > >That's the kernel module, you also need the glx driver. >What does "dpkg -l nvidia-glx" return? It wasn't installed. I installed it, but it doesn't work yet. Annoying is it appears that I'm

snort on router - risks?

2003-08-18 Thread Marcus Schopen
Hi, on my DSL-router (masqurading) at home I'd like to install snort to see who attacks me from the internet side. I know that one should install snort on a seperate hosts before and behind the firewall to get the best results, but this is just my little "home net" and I don't want to set up f

Newbie Hardware Question

2003-08-18 Thread Hershel Robinson
I am about to purchase a new machine on which I hope to install Debian. I was told by someone that I should insure that the new hardware will be Linux compatible. I thought that one of Debian's claims to fame is that it runs on so many different platforms. Perhaps, however, there are still hardware

Re: Backporting debhelper

2003-08-18 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 03:24:56PM +0200, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: > Hi, > > Looking at the list archives, I know this has been discussed before. > > I am trying to backport some packages from unstable to woody. For some > of them, I get stuck into something like a "dependencies loop", >

Samba running under inetd and init.d

2003-08-18 Thread John M. Purser
Good Morning, A few days ago I installed Samba on my Woody box. All was well for a couple of days then smbd stopped running with an error message that said port 139 was already in use. With help from this group I tracked down inetd as the culprit and sure enough there were lines to start Samba i

RE: What service is using a port? - Solved

2003-08-18 Thread John M. Purser
Thanks Nate. fuser worked perfectly. What it turned out to be was inetd watching the port so it could run samba on demand. Unfortunatly Samba was also in the run level scripts. I installed from the .deb using stable sources so I'm kind of puzzled about how this happened and why it worked at fir

Spellcheck suggestion

2003-08-18 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 08:19:37PM -0400, J.F.Gratton wrote: > A zealot is a zealot is a zealot. He might have been usefull, but past a > certain point, constant whining just becomes background > noise. You can check that in emacs using "M-X ispell "

Re: Newbie Hardware Question

2003-08-18 Thread Stephane
Le Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:23:03 -0400 Hershel Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a dit: > Can anyone confirm for me that either of this machines will run Debian and > X-Windows without great difficulty? :) My computer is almost the same as the second config and no problem at all for anything. -- To UNS

KDE 3.x

2003-08-18 Thread Jens Wannenmacher
Hi, does anyone know how to install KDE 3.x on sarge (2003-07-27)? I can't find any backport for the testing tree... Thanks and regards Jens -- COMPUTERBILD 15/03: Premium-e-mail-Dienste im Test -- 1. GMX TopMail - Platz 1 und Testsieger! 2. GMX

Re: Newbie Hardware Question

2003-08-18 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 06:23, Hershel Robinson wrote: > I am about to purchase a new machine on which I hope to install Debian. I > was told by someone that I should insure that the new hardware will be Linux > compatible. I thought that one of Debian's claims to fame is that it runs on > so many di

Re: chattr and symlinks (apology)

2003-08-18 Thread Johann Spies
I apologise for the wrong subject line. Actually I planned to ask about chattr and was interrupted while composing the email. Maybe I must ask my intended question here: Is there a way to do to a symlink what "chattr -i" does to a normal file or directory? Regards Johann -- Johann Spies

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Kent West
Colin Watson wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 09:52:29PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:12:13AM +0800, Isaac To wrote: Different people have different opinions, and the fact that www.gnu.org decided not to have a link to Debian means that the crews in www.gnu.org

Re: xterms with invisible fonts...

2003-08-18 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 06:42:52PM +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote: | Hello | | in the meantime in managed to set up a somehow working X setup, there | are still some glichtes running around... | | the xterm still shows white on white an empty screen, You can control xterm's colors via the ~/.Xdefa

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 07:27:42AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > >On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 09:52:29PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > >>I just looked at www.gnu.org. Found lots of idealistic stuff that > >>lots of people have never read. > > > >Actually, I have a look at it every so

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Darryl Barlow
Steve, On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 06:40 pm, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:55:36 +1000 > Wait, so endorsing a sub-project but not the main project when, one can > theorize, the sub-project could include non-free software in the same way > the main project can... IE, the addition of a ap

OT: Re: rms on debian : background noise

2003-08-18 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 08:19:37PM -0400, J.F.Gratton wrote: > On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 22:07, ben wrote: > > > be fair. if it wasn't for rms, there might very well not be a linux, > > much less a debian. > > A zealot is a zealot is a zealot. He might have been usefull, but past a > certain point,

Re: APT::Cache-Limit 16777216 still needed?

2003-08-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 19:31, Dan Jacobson wrote: > How can one tell if I still need to set > APT::Cache-Limit 16777216; > for the current version of apt? > $ apt-config dump > doesn't say if the default value has been increased. > $ which apt-get|xargs strings -a|grep -i limit > doesn't help. > I

Re: Traditional Install or Knoppix

2003-08-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 21:23, Darryl Barlow wrote: > Thanks to everyone who replied to my Post on this topic. Though a Knoppix > install may be the way to go in some circumstances, I will stick to the more > tradititional installation. > > Darryl > -- > Just as a side note... I forgot I did t

Re: apt-get install c-compiler

2003-08-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 19:45, Dan Jacobson wrote: > # apt-get install c-compiler > Package c-compiler is a virtual package provided by: > gcc-3.0 1:3.0.4-13 > tcc 0.9.19-1 > gcc272 2.7.2.3-18 > gcc-3.3 1:3.3.1-1 > gcc-3.2 1:3.2.3-7 > gcc-2.95 1:2.95.4-17 > gcc 4:3.3.1-1 > bcc 0.16.3-

Re: OT: Re: rms on debian : background noise

2003-08-18 Thread ben
Rob VanFleet wrote: On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 08:19:37PM -0400, J.F.Gratton wrote: On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 22:07, ben wrote: be fair. if it wasn't for rms, there might very well not be a linux, much less a debian. A zealot is a zealot is a zealot. He might have been usefull, but past a certain poin

OT: whinging (was Re: rms on debian : background noise)

2003-08-18 Thread Chris Metzler
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 07:12:01 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Rob VanFleet) wrote: > > Congratulations, you just joined the 10% of the net (not faulting those > who aren't native english speakers) that actually *does* spell "whining" > right (i.e. not "whinging"). Now, just don't call anybody a "looser"

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Stephane
Le Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:41:30 +0100 Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a dit: > The disturbing thing, as one of my friends commented recently, is: while > it seems ridiculous on the surface, every time I look at it (once a year > or so) it seems less and less far removed from reality. Future and his

Re: OT: Re: rms on debian : background noise

2003-08-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 07:12:01AM -0500, Rob VanFleet wrote: > On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 08:19:37PM -0400, J.F.Gratton wrote: > > A zealot is a zealot is a zealot. He might have been usefull, but > > past a certain point, constant whining > > Congratulations, you just joined the 10% of the net (

Re: OT: Re: rms on debian : background noise

2003-08-18 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 07:12:01AM -0500, rvf wrote: > On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 08:19:37PM -0400, J.F.Gratton wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 22:07, ben wrote: > > > > > be fair. if it wasn't for rms, there might very well not be a linux, > > > much less a debian. > > > > A zealot is a zealot is

Re: Graphical units conversion program?

2003-08-18 Thread stan
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 04:33:38PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Why would you want a graphical units program? What would it so that > 'units' doesn't do? I'm not attacking you: as the maintainer of units I > honestly want to know. Just thought I would give you some feedback on this. I found Gonve

Re: OT: Re: rms on debian : background noise

2003-08-18 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 03:40:49PM +, ben wrote: > Rob VanFleet wrote: > >On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 08:19:37PM -0400, J.F.Gratton wrote: > > > >>On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 22:07, ben wrote: > >> > >> > >>>be fair. if it wasn't for rms, there might very well not be a linux, > >>>much less a debian. >

Re: OT: Re: rms on debian : background noise

2003-08-18 Thread Jeff Gratton
... well I am *not* native english either, but French-Canadian (Quebecer) :). Thing is.. I am not calling RMS a loser (... looser :) ) either (here I don't know if you were joking on people's spelling or implying that my post said that RMS is indeed a loser), I'm just saying that RMS shouldn't

RE: Problem with video card when installing debian Gnu/Linux.

2003-08-18 Thread Johansson Mikael (mj)
Hello! Thank you very much for responding on my question Kent. Maybe I have to try Unstable/sid like you said but before that I thought of trying your hint while my feet are dry. What does it mean to run "lspci"? I tried to do it in the version of Debian I have installed, without any X-Window, fro

Re: NVIDIA driver (nvidia-kernel-source)

2003-08-18 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 06:40:39AM -0400, Michael Bonert wrote: > >> I can see a nvidia module in /lib/modules: > >> /lib/modules/2.4.18-bf2.4/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.o > > > >That's the kernel module, you also need the glx driver. What does > >"dpkg -l nvidia-glx" return? > > It wasn't insta

Re: OT: Re: rms on debian : background noise

2003-08-18 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 10:40, ben wrote: > Rob VanFleet wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 08:19:37PM -0400, J.F.Gratton wrote: > > > >>On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 22:07, ben wrote: > >> > >> > >>>be fair. if it wasn't for rms, there might very well not be a linux, > >>>much less a debian. > >> > >>A ze

problems with giftd

2003-08-18 Thread Alex Polite
So gift finally made it into debian. I've been using CVS versions for a long time. This is a most welcome change. If only it would work: $giftd giftd: relocation error: giftd: undefined symbol: mime_init -- Alex Polite http://plusseven.com/gpg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Problem with X

2003-08-18 Thread Glenn Howell Evans
Heya, so here are my default ball park guesses about your problem. A) Look in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and see if the driver for your video card is nvidia B) Did you compile the nvidia drivers yourself or did you use the kernel driver? If you didnt do either i would hope on nvidia's website and grab

Re: Samba running under inetd and init.d

2003-08-18 Thread Damien Solley
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 21:37, John M. Purser wrote: > Good Morning, > > A few days ago I installed Samba on my Woody box. All was well for a couple > of days then smbd stopped running with an error message that said port 139 > was already in use. With help from this group I tracked down inetd as

Re: gnome-core OR gnome-panel but not both??

2003-08-18 Thread Chris Metzler
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 09:08:11 -0700 (PDT) David Morse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In Sarge: > "apt-get install gnome-panel" wants to uninstall > gnome-core, and vice versa. And I need gnome-core as > a prerequisite for gnome-media, without which I get no > mixer applet (boo hoo). Without gnome-

Printing help, please.

2003-08-18 Thread Wathen, Metherion
Hi all, I am having trouble getting my printer to function under Debian. First off, my printer is a Lexmark 1020 color inkjet. I installed Cupsys, cupsys-bsd, and a few other cupsys related packages. I installed the ppd file for my printer from the Linuxprinting.org site. I rtfm'd several times and

Re: problems with giftd

2003-08-18 Thread Johann Koenig
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:25:43 +0200 Alex Polite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So gift finally made it into debian. I've been using CVS versions for > a long time. This is a most welcome change. > > If only it would work: > > $giftd > giftd: relocation error: giftd: undefined symbol: mime_init Did

CUPS, gnome-cups-icon continually eating memory, slow videoperformance

2003-08-18 Thread Roman Brodylo
Hello there, think I have a bug here, but I'm not sure. I'm running testing and my system slows down to a near halt if it's been up and running for hours. Slows down meaning workspace switching, switching from one window(app) to another takes really long (15 seconds and up). Closing a window, you

Re: OT: Re: rms on debian : background noise

2003-08-18 Thread Mark
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 07:12:01AM -0500, Rob VanFleet wrote: > > Congratulations, you just joined the 10% of the net (not faulting those > who aren't native english speakers) that actually *does* spell "whining" > right (i.e. not "whinging"). Now, just don't call anybody a "looser" > and you'll

Re: OT: Re: rms on debian : background noise

2003-08-18 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:25:12 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=right > "In accordance with fact, reason, or truth; correct:" > So, the spelling is right, and also correct... Is that a left turn? Right. -- Steve C. Lamb

Re: NVIDIA driver (nvidia-kernel-source)

2003-08-18 Thread Sridhar Srinivasan
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 06:40:39AM -0400, Michael Bonert wrote: > > MODIFY '/etc/X11/XF86Config-4': > Section "Module" > # Load "GLcore" # REMOVED nvidia > Load "bitmap" > Load "dbe" > Load "ddc" > # Load "dri"# REMOVED nvidia This may not be rel

Re: OT: Re: rms on debian : background noise

2003-08-18 Thread Mark
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 02:03:02PM +, Jeff Gratton wrote: > ... well I am *not* native english either, but French-Canadian (Quebecer) > :). > > Thing is.. I am not calling RMS a loser (... looser :) ) either (here I > don't know if you were joking on people's spelling or implying that my pos

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Bijan Soleymani
--2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:44:55AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Those installer packages are still in contrib, though, not main. If you > don't want non-free software there's a good chance that you won't wan

Re: KDE 3.x

2003-08-18 Thread Mark
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 01:36:44PM +0200, Jens Wannenmacher wrote: > Hi, > > does anyone know how to install KDE 3.x on sarge (2003-07-27)? > I can't find any backport for the testing tree... > I'm not sure that you can as such. I've done this by having testing/unstable machines, switching the

Re: Problem with video card when installing debian Gnu/Linux.

2003-08-18 Thread Mark
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 04:04:34PM +0200, Johansson Mikael (mj) wrote: > Hello! > Thank you very much for responding on my question Kent. > Maybe I have to try Unstable/sid like you said but before > that I thought of trying your hint while my feet are dry. > What does it mean to run "lspci"? I tri

Re: INVESTMENT

2003-08-18 Thread Mike Mueller
On Sunday 17 August 2003 12:55, Wayne Gemmell wrote: > I seem to get one of these everyday these days. > I think its an epidemic!! > > Wayne > > On Sunday 17 August 2003 18:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Attn: Sir/Madam, > > > > My name is Mr. Richard Cole chairman of contract award and monitorin

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 04:55:36PM +1000, Darryl Barlow wrote: > The tension between intellectual property rights and the public benefit of > "free" information is building, and I don't know how it will ultimately be > resolved, not only for Software but in many even more important areas. Look,

Re: Problem with video card when installing debian Gnu/Linux.

2003-08-18 Thread Clive Menzies
On (18/08/03 16:04), Johansson Mikael (mj) wrote: > Subject: RE: Problem with video card when installing debian Gnu/Linux. > Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:04:34 +0200 > From: "Johansson Mikael (mj)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Debian Gnu/Linux sändlista eng. (E-mail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello! > Tha

Re: snort on router - risks?

2003-08-18 Thread Jeffrey L. Taylor
Quoting Marcus Schopen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > on my DSL-router (masqurading) at home I'd like to install snort to see > who attacks me from the internet side. I know that one should install > snort on a seperate hosts before and behind the firewall to get the best > results, but this is

Re: Printing help, please.

2003-08-18 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 09:20:24AM -0500, Wathen, Metherion wrote: > Hi all, > I am having trouble getting my printer to function under Debian. > First off, my printer is a Lexmark 1020 color inkjet. > I installed Cupsys, cupsys-bsd, and a few other cupsys related packages. > I installed the ppd fi

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread John Hasler
Bijan writes: > I mean if the criteria for putting stuff in contrib is that you *can* use > it to run non-free software then that pretty much puts everything in > contrib. The requirement for putting stuff in contrib is that it depends on non-free software. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancin

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 11:38:09AM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:44:55AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Those installer packages are still in contrib, though, not main. If > > you don't want non-free software there's a good chance that you > > won't want to include cont

Re: OT: Re: rms on debian : background noise

2003-08-18 Thread Bijan Soleymani
--Kj7319i9nmIyA2yE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 02:03:02PM +, Jeff Gratton wrote: > ... well I am *not* native english either, but French-Canadian (Quebecer)= =20 > :). French (an En

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 11:38:09AM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 10:44:55AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Those installer packages are still in contrib, though, not main. If you > > don't want non-free software there's a good chance that you won't want > > to include cont

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Bijan Soleymani
--ADZbWkCsHQ7r3kzd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 11:18:50AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > The requirement for putting stuff in contrib is that it depends on non-fr= ee > software. I mention

PHP4 v4.3.2 & GD2

2003-08-18 Thread David Macbanay
After the inclusion of PHP4 v4.3.2 into debian unstable I am no longer able to use gd2. The gd2 package listed in debian is for version 4.2 and does not work with PHP4 version 4.3. After doing some google searches I found that gd2 is evidently included in the PHP4 core but phpinfo() does not show

mbox--> maildir with getmail, procmail,mutt

2003-08-18 Thread Matt Price
hi folks, converting from mbox ot maildirs, and wanted to check I was doingthis right before I screwed it up. Here's what I plan to do: in .getmail/getmailrc (2.3.7, woody package (can't use the sid packages, not compatible with my provider): is there anything to change? Right now mail just get

copy and paste problem

2003-08-18 Thread Martin MAURER
Hi all, please CC me in replies - not subscribed to this list. I have got quite a strange copy and paste problem: When I select text using my mouse in Eterm, I can't paste it to qt applications like licq or even qt-designer (i created a new form with a textarea and did preview - pasting didnt wor

Woody & M$ dhcp

2003-08-18 Thread ogulla
Hi all, Got this debian beast running **illegally** on the company network. My problem is that everytime I've got to reboot it, the dhcp server running on M$ NT, assigns the NIC a proper IP address but overwrites my resolv.conf with something like "KSL\000". Changing resolv.conf permisions to -r--r

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 05:02:12PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > For example I think dosemu is in contrib, even though you can use it to > > run Free Software programs for dos. I've used it with djgpp and emacs. > > See bug #101318. Oh thanks that clears that up. Freedos temporarily left main, s

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 11:18:50AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Bijan writes: > > I mean if the criteria for putting stuff in contrib is that you > > *can* use it to run non-free software then that pretty much puts > > everything in contrib. > > The requirement for putting stuff in contrib is that

serial ATA

2003-08-18 Thread Mark Barnes
I'm trying to install stable on a system with an Asus A7V600 motherboard, which supports serial ATA with a VIA VT8237 chipset. I've googled around for installation information on serial ATA support generally, and not found much that's on point. I'm not sure if serial ATA is supported directly via

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Joey Hess
Bijan Soleymani wrote: > I mentionned Dosemu, which is in contrib. Does dosemu depend on non-free > software? You can use it to run free dos programs. There are many free > dos programs. dosemu is in contrib because it depends on an implementation of DOS, to boot. While there is a free implementa

Re: telnet localhost slow, telnet 127.0.0.1 ok

2003-08-18 Thread Mental Patient
RUPERT LEVENE wrote: Indeed. Netcat and galeon appear to do the right thing too, while telnet, lynx and links all suffer from a delay. (I first noticed the problem using lynx). My guess at the moment is that the combination of a slow machine and a slow nameserver is exposing an odd bug in these pr

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Bijan Soleymani
--WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 05:30:57PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > The requirement for putting stuff in contrib is that it depends on > > non-free software. >=20 >

"done" jobs remain in queue, blocks new jobs

2003-08-18 Thread briand
I'm printing to a network print which is sitting on a jet direct port. Printing the first job works fine, but once the job is finished it remains in the queue and blocks subsequent jobs. I then have to go in and remove the "finished" job so that the next one will print. ~/Projects/wabi/design

Re: latex stoped handling tif images?

2003-08-18 Thread RUPERT LEVENE
Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The various error lines: >>From elatex: > > ! LaTeX Error: Cannot determine size of graphic in >.../blackboard_i0.tif (no BoundingBox). > <.../blackboard_flattened.tif>! Unable to read an entire > line---bufsize=20. > Please increase

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 12:48:08PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 05:02:12PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: [Your attributions are broken; I've reinserted the missing one.] > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 11:38:09AM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > > This applies to a lesser ext

Re: serial ATA

2003-08-18 Thread Mark Roach
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 12:51, Mark Barnes wrote: > I'm trying to install stable on a system with an Asus A7V600 > motherboard, which supports serial ATA with a VIA VT8237 chipset. > I've googled around for installation information on serial ATA support > generally, and not found much that's on point

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 01:04:00PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 05:30:57PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 11:18:50AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > > The requirement for putting stuff in contrib is that it depends on > > > non-free software. > > >

Re: telnet localhost slow, telnet 127.0.0.1 ok

2003-08-18 Thread Rupert Levene
Mental Patient <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RUPERT LEVENE wrote: >> Indeed. Netcat and galeon appear to do the right thing too, while >> telnet, lynx and links all suffer from a delay. (I first noticed >> the problem using lynx). My guess at the moment is that the >> combination of a slow machine

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread David Fokkema
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 01:04:12PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > I mentionned Dosemu, which is in contrib. Does dosemu depend on non-free > > software? You can use it to run free dos programs. There are many free > > dos programs. > > dosemu is in contrib because it depends

Re: rms on debian

2003-08-18 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 06:07:45PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 12:48:08PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 05:02:12PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > [Your attributions are broken; I've reinserted the missing one.] > > > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 1

Re: Woody & M$ dhcp

2003-08-18 Thread Rudy Gevaert
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 07:17:36PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > Got this debian beast running **illegally** on the company network. My > problem is that everytime I've got to reboot it, the dhcp server running > on M$ NT, assigns the NIC a proper IP address but overwrites my > resolv

RE: Printing help, please.

2003-08-18 Thread Wathen, Metherion
Thanks, I'll try this tonight and let you know how it goes. mw -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Woody & M$ dhcp

2003-08-18 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 17:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > Got this debian beast running **illegally** on the company network. My Best of luck, but be careful. I worked at a company where an employee got fired for playing Solitaire on his computer. I'd imagine installing an OS would be even

Re: raid question

2003-08-18 Thread Patrick Albuquerque
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 09:33:08AM +0200, Rudy Gevaert wrote: > I had already made 3 partions (not in use) on both disk EXT3, and made > a raid one system with it. Now I have changed the type to FD (Linux > raid autodetec). I could mount it also when being ext3. > > Can't I use ext3 on the rai

Gnome, Nautilus, KDE anomalies

2003-08-18 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
I am running Woody with backports. I have KDE 2.2.2 and Gnome 2. I mostly wanted Gnome 2 so I could run a recent version of Gnomemeeting, but I installed lots of the rest of it anyway to get anti-aliasing for gnome based apps, try it out, etc. I sign into a KDE session. Some odd things are happ

Re: Woody & M$ dhcp

2003-08-18 Thread Mark Roach
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 18:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > Got this debian beast running **illegally** on the company network. My > problem is that everytime I've got to reboot it, the dhcp server running > on M$ NT, assigns the NIC a proper IP address but overwrites my > resolv.conf with so

Debian Samba Documentation

2003-08-18 Thread jdavis
Hello, I am looking for documentation about Samba on Debian Linux. I cannot seem to find on debian.org specific documentation, and the LDP has Samba docs, but I'm looking for specific Debian related materials. Does anyone know if it exists, and if it does, where it might be? Thanks. Jared Davi

Re: INVESTMENT

2003-08-18 Thread Patrick Albuquerque
On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 11:50:41AM -0400, Mike Mueller wrote: > Perversely, I've been collecting these things since Feb. 2003. The frequency Then you'll appreciate http://arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/03q2/nigerian-sco.html DEAR SIR/MADAM: I AM MR. DARL MCBRIDE CURRENTLY SERVIN

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