Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-23 Thread housetier
After talking to lilo of freenode staff about this matter, I was advised that ##debian (yes, two '#') and not #debian-friendly is the right place for the unofficial debian support channel. So I have joined it and would like to ask others to do so as well, so we can try to help those who (for whatev

Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-23 Thread Mauro Darida
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 at 08:45:25 +, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, William Ballard wrote: > > published. When you're getting started you're way too stupid to > > "Stupid"? I may not be a native speaker, but that certainly doesn't look > like the correct term at all

Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-21 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, William Ballard wrote: > published. When you're getting started you're way too stupid to "Stupid"? I may not be a native speaker, but that certainly doesn't look like the correct term at all for "someone who does not know enough yet, but will learn". Try "unexperienced", o

Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 06:11:52AM +0100, housetier wrote: > I don't think that #debian is a place for newbies to turn to when they > need help. When newbis ask for help they face a very urgent problem > and are usually overwhelmed by it. For their questions to be answered That's precisely the wro

Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread housetier
I don't think that #debian is a place for newbies to turn to when they need help. When newbis ask for help they face a very urgent problem and are usually overwhelmed by it. For their questions to be answered in #debian they must follow a certain protocol which is strictly enforced with all means p

Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Chris Metzler
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:49:31 -0800 Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > That being said: Why is this so hard to grasp? Until you can comply > with this list's rules on conduct, this conversation is over. Paul, are you sure he's hitting "reply to all"? There certainly might be something munged on my e

Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 20 December 2004 11:32 am, you wrote: > Ok, so where did I say that?? I NEVER talked about switching IP's. So > this is the time when I am right to start adressing you as a FOOL!? > Because you made a mistake? According to you and a couple of other > geeks it is! > [...] > If both su

Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Steve Lamb
Kim wrote: Saying that I soon experienced a lot of rudeness and after only posting I think about 5 messages in total I got banned. And since I sit on a wan which has only one public IP the entire wan is actually banned. aptitude -t unstable install tor What do you think? But ya didn't hea

Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 20 December 2004 10:20 am, Peter Nuttall wrote: > > 01:39 PerfDave> macon: But the people who are less than entirely > > friendly are also the people who are most helpful and > > knowlegeable. Which is why they get to be so snarky, > > whe

Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Monday 20 Dec 2004 14:13, Stephen Rueger wrote: > This is what actually happened: > Hi all, Since I both lurk on #debian and debian-user, I thought I would comment. First off, irc is the wrong place to be asking questions. This is because irc answers are lost after a couple of days but answer

Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 20 December 2004 10:00 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Actually, according to Debian's website (http://debian.org/support), the=20 > > IRC channel is the Debian official IRC channel. > > No you are wrong it is not: > http://www.debian.org/vote/2001/vote_0002 > > QUOTE: > 2. Problems

Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 20 December 2004 5:53 am, Kim wrote: > Now since I found there was such a big difference I adressed the issue > on the debian channel afterwards. Quickly a lot of people "pm" me and > agreed. I only posted a couple of messages advicing people to maintain > the freenode policy of helpf

Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 02:53:01PM +0100, Kim wrote: [...] } I also consider the current channel as a very unhelpful channel and in } many cases people who are trying debian for the first time goes there } only to find a lot of insults if they don't understand at first or if } they have missed t

Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Mark Lijftogt
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 02:53:01PM +0100, Kim wrote: > Hi All. > > Yesterday I was testing the new Fedora Core 3 and since I needed some > information I connected to the fedora channel on irc.freenode.net. I > also connected to the linux channel. > > In both these channels I asked a couple of q

Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Stephen Rueger
This is what actually happened: 00:42 -!- macon [EMAIL PROTECTED] has joined #debian 01:24 macon> I have been using debian for about 4 years now, and I always found that people on this channel is kindda "rude" if one doesn't "it right away", tonight I was doing some

The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Kim
Hi All. Yesterday I was testing the new Fedora Core 3 and since I needed some information I connected to the fedora channel on irc.freenode.net. I also connected to the linux channel. In both these channels I asked a couple of questions and I quickly discovered that people on the channel was ve