Re: [SOLVED] Re: writing iso file to usb stick with dd - garbled files - usb eject error?

2025-08-03 Thread tomas
On Sun, Aug 03, 2025 at 06:42:13AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: [...] > Meanwhile "dd" has always worked for me. I'll have to remember Tomas' > recommendation for "oflag=sync" for the next time I write an image, > though that might be a while. I usually just remember "there was a flag for that..

Re: [SOLVED] Re: writing iso file to usb stick with dd - garbled files - usb eject error?

2025-08-03 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2025 03 Aug 05:31 -0500, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Sun Aug 3, 2025 at 6:52 AM BST, tomas wrote: > > I always recommend to add "oflag=sync" to dd itself: this way it > > syncs as it goes and you don't have to wait for a (potentially > > long) time for sync to "come back". > > > > Togethe

Re: [SOLVED] Re: writing iso file to usb stick with dd - garbled files - usb eject error?

2025-08-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun Aug 3, 2025 at 6:52 AM BST, tomas wrote: I always recommend to add "oflag=sync" to dd itself: this way it syncs as it goes and you don't have to wait for a (potentially long) time for sync to "come back". Together with "status=progress" you get a visual feedback on how things are going

Re: [SOLVED] Re: writing iso file to usb stick with dd - garbled files - usb eject error?

2025-08-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, a late comment to the failure messages about the USB stick in the system log: > [40799.447110] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdf] Attached SCSI removable disk > [41167.136643] usb 2-1.2: reset high-speed USB device number 27 using > xhci_hcd The reset message is not caused by unplugging of the USB device. I

Re: [SOLVED] Re: writing iso file to usb stick with dd - garbled files - usb eject error?

2025-08-02 Thread tomas
On Sat, Aug 02, 2025 at 10:49:44PM -0500, Titus Newswanger wrote: > On 8/2/25 20:53, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > The command you're probably thinking of is sync. I always recommend to add "oflag=sync" to dd itself: this way it syncs as it goes and you don't have to wait for a (potentially long) time

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Stop udisks2 mounting my partitions?

2025-07-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/07/2025 04:56, Stefan Monnier wrote: true/false I would imagine. See: https://storaged.org/doc/udisks2-api/latest/udisks.8.html and: https://storaged.org/doc/udisks2-api/latest/gdbus-org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Block.html Ah, that's where those HintFoo thingies are documented. It

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Stop udisks2 mounting my partitions?

2025-07-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> true/false I would imagine. See: > > https://storaged.org/doc/udisks2-api/latest/udisks.8.html > > and: > > > https://storaged.org/doc/udisks2-api/latest/gdbus-org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Block.html Ah, that's where those HintFoo thingies are documented. DDG wasn't able to get me to `gdbus-org.

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Stop udisks2 mounting my partitions?

2025-07-25 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Jul 2025 at 14:51:03 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> On one of my (Debian stable) machines, all the partitions that aren't > >> mentioned in /etc/fstab end up mounted in /media/root/, and that's > >> apparently a "feature" of `udisks2`. > >> > >> How can I tell udisks2 to refrain fro

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Mount permissions weired

2025-07-12 Thread David Wright
On Sat 12 Jul 2025 at 02:51:25 (+), David wrote: > Again: when you mount something on a mountpoint, all underlying data of > that mountpoint becomes hidden and inaccessible and irrelevant. In linux, that isn't entirely true, as you can use a bind mount to read what lies "underneath". (I haven

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Mount permissions weired

2025-07-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 02:51:25AM +, David wrote: In fact it has been my practice for some years now to 'chown root:' and 'chmod 0' on all my mountpoints and set the immutable bit on them, to avoid accidentally writing into directories that are intended only as mountpoints. And I have never

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Mount permissions weired

2025-07-11 Thread Dan Ritter
David wrote: > Something that I am curious to learn more about, if anyone has ideas, is > the discussion at the above link about the need to have at least 'chmod > 111' on mountpoint directories. > > I have not found that necessary, and so I wonder if that advice is > outdated, or somehow not rel

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Mount permissions weired

2025-07-11 Thread David
On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 at 18:49, Hans wrote: > > Permissions are stored for the root directory of each filesystem, which > > are used as the permissions of the mount point when the drive is > > mounted. > Thanks, this is explaining all my questions. I always thought wrong, that > mounted devices an

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 6:29 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > [...] > > There have even been some arguments that the relatively recent trend of > providing .d directories and support for config fragment inclusion has > been added predominantly by software coming from distribution ecosystems > that lack d

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list

2025-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Fri 20 Jun 2025 at 12:12:09 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:53 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:40:59 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wro

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 12:59 PM songbird wrote: > > Jeffrey Walton wrote: > ... > > Unfortunately, I cannot find a Debian specific article on > > configuration directories. However, Red Hat has "Linux configuration: > > Understanding *.d directories in /etc," > >

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 01:23:13PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > In the specific case of /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/, the man page is > pretty explicit: > > Note that the Debian openssh-server package sets several options as stan‐ > dard in /etc/ssh/sshd_config which are not the default

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025, The Wanderer wrote: Personally, what I do in response to such a prompt is to have it show me a diff of the two files, and then if the changes involve losing any settings want to retain, I have it give me a shell prompt (or use another shell I have independently) to make a co

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > SSH config files are located in /etc, too. But ad

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list

2025-06-20 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 08:58:58AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 20 Jun 2025 at 08:28:11 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 05:40:24PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > It might be worth mentioning that if the package owns sources.list, > > > the

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 18:20:37 +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jun 2025, The Wanderer wrote: > > > Personally, what I do in response to such a prompt is to have it show me > > a diff of the two files, and then if the changes involve losing any > > settings want to retain, I have it give m

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 12:12:09 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Unfortunately, I cannot find a Debian specific article on > configuration directories. However, Red Hat has "Linux configuration: > Understanding *.d directories in /etc," >

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread songbird
Jeffrey Walton wrote: ... > Unfortunately, I cannot find a Debian specific article on > configuration directories. However, Red Hat has "Linux configuration: > Understanding *.d directories in /etc," >. Now > that we have configuration d

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:42:53AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2025-06-20 at 11:30, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > >> You will absolutely lose your sshd_config when the package is > >> upgraded and you choose the maintainers v

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:53 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:40:59 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:40:59 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffr

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-06-20 at 11:30, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> You will absolutely lose your sshd_config when the package is >> upgraded and you choose the maintainers version of the file. > > No. > > You will be asked, as for every conffile

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > SSH config files are located in /etc, too. But admins are expected to > > > make changes to /etc/ssh/s

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > SSH config files are located in /etc, too. But admins are expected to > > make changes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/, and not /etc/ssh/sshd_config. > > That's definitely false.

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > SSH config files are located in /etc, too. But admins are expected to > make changes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/, and not /etc/ssh/sshd_config. That's definitely false.

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 2:28 AM wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 05:40:24PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > [...] > > > It might be worth mentioning that if the package owns sources.list, > > then you should not edit it. You should allow the package maintainer > > to edit or replace sources.lis

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list

2025-06-20 Thread David Wright
On Fri 20 Jun 2025 at 08:28:11 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 05:40:24PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > [...] > > > It might be worth mentioning that if the package owns sources.list, > > then you should not edit it. You should allow the package maintainer > > to edi

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 05:40:24PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > It might be worth mentioning that if the package owns sources.list, > then you should not edit it. You should allow the package maintainer > to edit or replace sources.list. Place your changes in > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/.

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list

2025-06-19 Thread David Wright
On Thu 19 Jun 2025 at 17:40:24 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > It might be worth mentioning that if the package owns sources.list, > then you should not edit it. You should allow the package maintainer > to edit or replace sources.list. Place your changes in > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. > > But ag

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-19 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 2:59 PM Hans wrote: > > > If the packaging system wants to remove a package that came from > > oldstable for dependency reasons, having oldstable sources listed > > won't change that. > > > > Some old packages (usually versioned libraries) are kept around forever > > and do

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-19 Thread John Hasler
Andrew M.A. Cater writes: > Use apt / apt-get options for safe upgrade - to upgrade the minimum > set of packages. Log the output of the safe-upgrade command (normally just "apt upgrade") and read the log before giving the next command. > Do an apt-get dist-upgrade / apt full-upgrade And again,

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

2025-06-19 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 05:27:55PM +0200, Hans wrote: > > Thank you very much for your very usefull informations. It answers all my > questions and worries I had. > > So, "best" way is to remove the old entries and use only trixie-related ones. > Best way: Bring the system up to date on the o

Re: [SOLVED] Re: How to change ownership of subdirectories under /media

2025-05-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, May 04, 2025 at 08:03:39AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > Thank you , David. My problem was a simple blunder, but your respose was > usefully informative. It would be helpful to say what the blunder was so that other people who find this thread by search later on may not be left wonde

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun Apr 6, 2025 at 2:13 PM BST, Greg wrote: On 2025-04-06, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Fri Apr 4, 2025 at 11:01 PM BST, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: This is the real problem: threads here go on for months and years. Why is this a problem? Because in the modern age we need things that start i

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-06 Thread Greg
On 2025-04-06, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri Apr 4, 2025 at 11:01 PM BST, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> This is the real problem: threads here go on for months and years. > > Why is this a problem? Because in the modern age we need things that start instantly and end rapidly.

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri Apr 4, 2025 at 11:01 PM BST, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: This is the real problem: threads here go on for months and years. Why is this a problem? -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-06 Thread 황병희
Hellow Jeff, Jeffrey Walton writes: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:23 PM Max Nikulin wrote: >> [...] >> Let's avoid discussions if gmail should be used. De-facto it is widely >> used, it has features and limitations. My point is that gmail users >> should be aware that some suggestions perfectly v

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/04/2025 05:01, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 10:22:47AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Again when reading mail, if subject is changed almost completely: "Old" to "New (was: Old)" to "New" with "(was: ...)" stripped by e.g. Thunderbird or Emacs; then the thread is split into 3

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/04/2025 03:35, Andy Smith wrote: Do you understand that Max and I are saying that the way the web UI for gmail and other large mailbox providers works is that as soon as you change a subject line it breaks the thread and places those mails in their own separate group? Disclaimer: I have n

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Lee
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 5:02 PM Larry Martell wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 12:05 PM Fred wrote: >> >> HI, >> >> One reason to use the "solved" tag is to let everyone know that the OP >> has solved the problem and moved on so that others don't continue to >> waste their time and effort tryin

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 10:22:47AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 02/04/2025 05:17, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > I see the changing of title or subject to add things like "SOLVED" is > > not included in the FAQ. > > I am neutral to this recommendations. Just some considerations... > > I rarely use G

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 3:05 PM Fred wrote: > > One reason to use the "solved" tag is to let everyone know that the OP > has solved the problem and moved on so that others don't continue to > waste their time and effort trying to find a solution when the OP has > moved on and won't need to respond

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 11:59:23AM -0700, Fred wrote: > One reason to use the "solved" tag is to let everyone know that the OP has > solved the problem Do you understand that Max and I are saying that the way the web UI for gmail and other large mailbox providers works is that as soon as you

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 12:05 PM Fred wrote: > HI, > > One reason to use the "solved" tag is to let everyone know that the OP > has solved the problem and moved on so that others don't continue to > waste their time and effort trying to find a solution when the OP has > moved on and won't need to

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Fred
HI, One reason to use the "solved" tag is to let everyone know that the OP has solved the problem and moved on so that others don't continue to waste their time and effort trying to find a solution when the OP has moved on and won't need to respond any more. Best regards, Fred On 4/4/25 08

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 10:22:47AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > I am neutral to this recommendations. Just some considerations... > > I rarely use Gmail web UI, but this time I was curious enough to check its > behavior. As I keep pointing out, and you have covered again here, any change of s

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:23 PM Max Nikulin wrote: > [...] > Let's avoid discussions if gmail should be used. De-facto it is widely > used, it has features and limitations. My point is that gmail users > should be aware that some suggestions perfectly valid for other MUA > should be avoided in the

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Greg
On 2025-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: > > Let's avoid discussions if gmail should be used. De-facto it is widely > used, it has features and limitations. My point is that gmail users > should be aware that some suggestions perfectly valid for other MUA > should be avoided in the mail.google.com web

Re: [SOLVED] Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-19 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 04:34:48PM +0100, Hans wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2025, 16:24:15 CET schrieb Stefan Monnier: > > >> Seems we've been through this before in 2022 (sorry that it's > > >> Google Groups which I thought was defunct but anyway): > > >> https://groups.google.com/g/linux.d

Re: [SOLVED] Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-19 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 19. März 2025, 16:24:15 CET schrieb Stefan Monnier: > >> > the desired goal is, that my original MAC will never appear after boot. > >> > As > >> > dpkg-reconfigure macchanger claims this to do, in real it does not. > >> > >> Seems we've been through this before in 2022 (sorry that it

Re: [SOLVED] Re: macchanger - will not change MAC at boot

2025-03-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> > the desired goal is, that my original MAC will never appear after boot. As >> > dpkg-reconfigure macchanger claims this to do, in real it does not. >> Seems we've been through this before in 2022 (sorry that it's Google Groups >> which I thought was defunct but anyway): >> https://groups.googl

Re: [SOLVED] pdfarranger and update-alternatives

2025-03-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/03/2025 17:50, Gerard ROBIN wrote: settings -> settings manager -> default applications in xfce4 fixed the problem. (Editing the mimeapps.list file has no effect) But the XFCE settings tool writes selected option to mimeapps.list...

Re: Re: [SOLVED] pdfarranger and update-alternatives

2025-03-06 Thread Gerard ROBIN
settings -> settings manager -> default applications in xfce4 fixed the problem. (Editing the mimeapps.list file has no effect) Thanks to everyone who took the time to answer me. -- Gerard Created with Mutt 2.2.1 under Debian Linux BO

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Debian-live can not be build missing package

2025-03-05 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 5. März 2025, 18:53:07 CET schrieb Matthias Böttcher: > Hi Hans, > > maybe this caused your problem: > Nov 06, 2024 > Commit 30d39f81 "lb config: --distribution defaults to testing" > https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/commit/30d39f812e41eb81928a0 > fe1f3a4f686eb30dfa

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Debian-live can not be build missing package

2025-03-05 Thread Matthias Böttcher
Hi Hans, maybe this caused your problem: Nov 06, 2024 Commit 30d39f81 "lb config: --distribution defaults to testing" https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/commit/30d39f812e41eb81928a0fe1f3a4f686eb30dfa9 Bye Matthias

Re: (solved) anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-11 Thread hlyg
Thank Wright! i can't find "ran successfully" in entire syslog with editor's search function 2nd disk has 4 partitions, 2 for stretch and deb12, installer seems to parse their grub.cfg, making log very long Feb 11 08:54:28 in-target: Creating config file /etc/default/grub with new version^

Re: (solved) anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-11 Thread hlyg
Thank Curley again! manually editing grub.cfg is amateur as it is auto-generated. but my stanza is simple, it's easy to add it if removed. if it were Windows, it would be much easier i examine syslog, among many lines probing each partition for OS, i can't find how i specify installation targe

Re: (solved) anyone experienced in dual boot freebsd?

2025-02-11 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 21:44:58 +0800 hlyg wrote: > Thank Curley, but i have solved on my own Excellent. > > isn't installer syslog supposed to record my choice during > installation? Yes, and a couple other files in /var/log/installation. > > i let bios boot 2nd disk, which also has deb12, ru

Re: To change subject line or not (Was Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared)

2025-01-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 12:59:38PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi David, > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 08:46:28PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 14 Jan 2025 at 00:53:43 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > > > Most people do not use a good MUA. The email interfaces of the top three > > > mailbox provi

Re: To change subject line or not (Was Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared)

2025-01-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hi David, On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 08:46:28PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 14 Jan 2025 at 00:53:43 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > > Most people do not use a good MUA. The email interfaces of the top three > > mailbox providers split threads when the subject line changes, a > > misfeature I was

Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared

2025-01-14 Thread Dan Ritter
Bret Busby wrote: > > This is not a forum. Please do not change the title. It creates a new > > thread with no context disjoint from thread where the problem was > > solved.. ... > If a person interested in the thread, from the wording of the Subject field, > reads the messages in the thread, th

Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared

2025-01-14 Thread Chris Green
Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 21:55:05 + > Chris Green wrote: > > > Anyway I have it back now. :-) > > Glad to hear it. > > For the benefit of future readers, please mark the thread as solved. > How do I do that via the Gmane/Usenet gateway? -- Chris Green ·

Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared

2025-01-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 12:15 AM wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 06:28:55PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > [...] > > > This is not a forum. Please do not change the title. It creates a new > > thread with no context disjoint from thread where the problem was > > solved.. > > It only creates a

Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared

2025-01-13 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 06:28:55PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > This is not a forum. Please do not change the title. It creates a new > thread with no context disjoint from thread where the problem was > solved.. It only creates a new thread if you have an inferior MUA. Those respecting

Re: To change subject line or not (Was Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared)

2025-01-13 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/01/2025 07:53, Andy Smith wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 12:41:17AM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: It is not just the Subject: but also the In-Reply-To: and References: headers. A good MUA (mail reader) will use these to deduce what is in reply to what and have the ability to show an em

Re: To change subject line or not (Was Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared)

2025-01-13 Thread David Wright
On Tue 14 Jan 2025 at 00:53:43 (+), Andy Smith wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 12:41:17AM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: > > It is not just the Subject: but also the In-Reply-To: and References: > > headers. > > A good MUA (mail reader) will use these to deduce what is in reply to what > >

To change subject line or not (Was Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared)

2025-01-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 12:41:17AM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: > It is not just the Subject: but also the In-Reply-To: and References: headers. > A good MUA (mail reader) will use these to deduce what is in reply to what and > have the ability to show an email 'thread'. I use mutt which d

Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared

2025-01-13 Thread David Wright
bject line, or starting a new thread, with the Subject line being > only the word "Help". Help what? "Help me find my lost dog"? "Help me > overthrow the government"? Help me tie my shoelaces"? Subject: Re: [solved] How do I attach this problem … … Subject:

Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared

2025-01-13 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 05:30:19PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > Many list servers serve up their archives with subject line and other > information but not the body. By modifying the subject appropriately one > makes it possible for a reader to quickly scan the subject, making > reading the enti

Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared

2025-01-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 18:28:55 -0500 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > > For the benefit of future readers, please mark the thread as > > solved. > > This is not a forum. Please do not change the title. It creates a new > thread with no context disjoint from thread where the problem was > solved.. Th

Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared

2025-01-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 07:47:04 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > Also, the use of prepending, involving the "square brackets", > generally indicates the name of a mailing list, for example, [GNC] > for GNUcash. OK, then how would you do it? "Re: British English has disappeared: SOLVED"? > If a person in

Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared

2025-01-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/1/25 07:28, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 6:13 PM Charles Curley wrote: On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 21:55:05 + Chris Green wrote: Anyway I have it back now. :-) Glad to hear it. For the benefit of future readers, please mark the thread as solved. This is not a forum.

Re: [SOLVED] Re: British English has disappeared

2025-01-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 6:13 PM Charles Curley wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 21:55:05 + > Chris Green wrote: > > > Anyway I have it back now. :-) > > Glad to hear it. > > For the benefit of future readers, please mark the thread as solved. This is not a forum. Please do not change the title

Re: [SOLVED] Debian 12 USB install hangs on GRUB command line

2024-12-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/12/2024 04:56, Roger Price wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, Max Nikulin wrote: Have you tried to plug the stick into another USB port (e.g. USB2 instead of USB3 or vice versa)? Try full power cycle, not just reboot. All the 10 USB ports on my T5820 are specified as USB 3.1 Gen 1.  I always d

Re: [SOLVED] Debian 12 USB install hangs on GRUB command line

2024-12-17 Thread Roger Price
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, Thomas Schmitt wrote: dd if=debian-12.8.0-and64-DVD-1.iso of=/dev/sdj1 bs=4M && sync The "1" in "/dev/sdj1" is surplus. I rebuilt the USB stick using just /dev/sdj . On Tue, 17 Dec 2024, Max Nikulin wrote: Am I right that you have internal SSD (SATA? NVME?) and a USB

Re: SOLVED ? Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-16 Thread Anssi Saari
gene heskett writes: > No zfs that I know of, everything is ext4. As I've just played with zfs, the zfs packages to purge are these: libnvpair3linux libuutil3linux libzfs4linux libzpool5linux zfs-dkms zfs-zed zfsutils-linux

Re: [SOLVED] Re: utelnetd

2024-12-07 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Dec 07, 2024 at 08:39:54AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > Unencrypted login sessions, with passwords being > sent in the clear > > over a network, are inherently insecure. > > You give a password every time a xterm or similar is opened? As has been noted multiple times in this t

Re: SOLVED (I think): Re: new Xerox printer doesn't print

2024-11-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 7:57 PM jeremy ardley wrote: > > On 22/11/24 23:20, D. R. Evans wrote: > > > > To my simple mind that suggests that some auto-configuration magic that > > is supposed to happen when the new printer was plugged into the network > > was not handled correctly by debian stable.

Re: SOLVED (I think): Re: new Xerox printer doesn't print

2024-11-22 Thread jeremy ardley
On 22/11/24 23:20, D. R. Evans wrote: To my simple mind that suggests that some auto-configuration magic that is supposed to happen when the new printer was plugged into the network was not handled correctly by debian stable. I have a Fuji-Xerox printer (they are Brother printers under th

Re: SOLVED (I think): Re: new Xerox printer doesn't print

2024-11-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 1:27 PM D. R. Evans wrote: > > D. R. Evans wrote on 11/19/24 09:38: > > I have recently added a Xerox C325 multifunction printer to my home LAN. > > > > When I originally plugged it in and ran some quick print tests from my > > Debian > > stable system, everything seemed t

Re: [SOLVED] Re: problem with fwlogwatch.service (debian 12)

2024-11-21 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
On Thursday, 21 November 2024 07:24:49 -03 Jean-François Bachelet wrote: Hello Jeff > Hello Michel ^^) > > Le 21/11/2024 à 08:33, Michel Verdier a écrit : > > On 2024-11-20, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: [snip] > > in this script I found : > > CONFIG=/etc/default/fwlogwatch > > oups, the only pl

Re: [solved, more] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-11-09 Thread peter
The ThinkCentre has one blue and one black, as in the 2nd photo here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#System_design > * With the adapter labeled USB 2.0, why is plugging in USB 3 necessary > to boot the external system? From: David Wright Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2024 22:43:19 -0600 Who knows

Re: [solved] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-11-09 Thread eben
On 11/9/24 13:04, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: A new factor in the original problem. Therefore a new thread. I can respond to the original thread when there's time. In case anyone is interested, these topics remain. * Why does the ThinkCentre have differing USB sockets? I've read on this list th

Re: [solved] Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-11-09 Thread Felix Miata
peter composed on 2024-11-09 11:35 (UTC-0700): > * Why does the ThinkCentre have differing USB sockets? Monkey see, monkey do applies in the competitive field of motherboard manufacturing. Most computers with 3.x USB have also 2.0 ports. 3.x has a manufacturing cost that 1.x and 2.0 devices have

Re: [solved] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-11-09 Thread peter
A new factor in the original problem. Therefore a new thread. I can reply to the original thread later. From: pe...@easthope.ca Date: 27 Oct 2024 11:26:12 -0700 > Rather than spend more time investigating, will put the HDD in the > target machine and work there. Happened to connect a

Re: [solved] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-11-09 Thread peter
A new factor in the original problem. Therefore a new thread. I can respond to the original thread when there's time. From: pe...@easthope.ca Date: 27 Oct 2024 11:26:12 -0700 > Rather than spend more time investigating, will put the HDD in the > target machine and work there. Happened

Re: [solved, more] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-11-04 Thread Dan Purgert
On Nov 02, 2024, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: pe...@easthope.ca > Date: 27 Oct 2024 11:26:12 -0700 > > Rather than spend more time investigating, will put the HDD in the > > target machine and work there. Remove some of the complications. > > Happened to connect a USB hub before deal

Re: [solved, more] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-11-03 Thread David Wright
On Sat 02 Nov 2024 at 07:46:33 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: pe...@easthope.ca > Date: 27 Oct 2024 11:26:12 -0700 > > Rather than spend more time investigating, will put the HDD in the > > target machine and work there. Remove some of the complications. > > Happened to connec

Re: [solved, partly] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-11-02 Thread Max Nikulin
On 27/10/2024 21:56, David Wright wrote: On Sat 26 Oct 2024 at 20:55:11 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: A Web search found mention of grub command nativedisk which I added. I don't know anything about nativedisk or the distinctions between various types of driver. [...] nativedisk se

Re: [solved, more] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-11-02 Thread peter
From: pe...@easthope.ca Date: 27 Oct 2024 11:26:12 -0700 > Rather than spend more time investigating, will put the HDD in the > target machine and work there. Remove some of the complications. Happened to connect a USB hub before dealing with the Void drive. Noticed the USB socket wher

Re: [solved, partly] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-11-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 23:10:22 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 28 Oct 2024 at 07:08:12 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 22:42:15 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > type > > > set -x > > > before you run os-prober and > > > set +x > > > afterwards, and track what it

Re: [solved, partly] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-10-31 Thread David Wright
On Mon 28 Oct 2024 at 07:08:12 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 22:42:15 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > type > > set -x > > before you run os-prober and > > set +x > > afterwards, and track what it does. > > os-prober is a script, so that won't work as written. You'd ei

Re: [solved, partly] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-10-31 Thread David Wright
On Mon 28 Oct 2024 at 09:07:42 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: David Wright > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 22:42:15 -0500 > > Well, it could be because Void apparently isn't a glibc OS. > > Thanks. Haven't thought about that. > > > You could check /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/90linux-

Re: [solved, partly] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-10-28 Thread peter
From: David Wright Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 22:42:15 -0500 > Well, it could be because Void apparently isn't a glibc OS. Thanks. Haven't thought about that. > You could check /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/90linux-distro > to see whether the first test would succeed. Or a lazy way: > type >

Re: [solved, partly] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-10-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 22:42:15 -0500, David Wright wrote: > type > set -x > before you run os-prober and > set +x > afterwards, and track what it does. os-prober is a script, so that won't work as written. You'd either need to modify os-prober (change the second line from "set -e" to "set -

Re: [solved, partly] Re: Grub menu entry for a system on a second drive.

2024-10-27 Thread David Wright
On Sun 27 Oct 2024 at 11:26:12 (-0700), pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > A search of "os-prober security" finds several pages. os-prober is > disabled by default in Archlinux and other respected distributions. > > For interest, I enabled os-prober again in /etc/default/grub and ran > grub-install /de

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