Adding the mailing list back. The message was sent off-list by mistake,
so overquoting.
On 10/01/2025 19:15, Haines Brown wrote:
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 10:01:57AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 09/01/2025 21:15, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Moral of the story: NEVER EVER run "wpctl".
My guess is tha
On 09/01/2025 21:15, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Moral of the story: NEVER EVER run "wpctl".
My guess is that it may be a consequence of "wireplumber" you executed
earlier. Having no notion what particular components of pipewire/pulse
do, I would avoid running random commands supposed to be started
Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Thu, Jan 09, 2025 at 07:39:29 -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
I have pipewire-pulse intstalled, not puleaudio.
Maybe change that?
hobbit:~$ dpkg -l | grep pulse
ii libpulse-mainloop-glib0:amd6416.1+dfsg1-2+b1amd64
PulseAudio client libraries
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2025 at 9:15 AM
> From: "Greg Wooledge"
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: getting started with pipewire
>
> On Thu, Jan 09, 2025 at 09:00:24 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > $ wpctl status
> > >
On Thu, Jan 09, 2025 at 09:15:16AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 09, 2025 at 09:00:24 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > $ wpctl status
> > > Could not connect to PipeWire
> >
> > hobbit:~$ wpctl status
[...]
> I tried everything I could immediately think of, including logging out
On Thu, Jan 09, 2025 at 09:00:24 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > $ wpctl status
> > Could not connect to PipeWire
>
> hobbit:~$ wpctl status
> ^C
>
> It just "hung" with no output.
>
> After I pressed Ctrl-C, my audio stopped working. I'm never going
> to do this one again!
>
> > # syste
On Thu, Jan 09, 2025 at 07:39:29 -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
> I have pipewire-pulse intstalled, not puleaudio.
Maybe change that?
hobbit:~$ dpkg -l | grep pulse
ii libpulse-mainloop-glib0:amd6416.1+dfsg1-2+b1amd64
PulseAudio client libraries (glib support)
ii li
Now I get these lines from systemctl --user status pipewire.service
Jan 02 09:39:26 iskra systemd[1518]: Started pipewire.service -
PipeWire Multimedia Service.
Jan 07 11:14:49 iskra pipewire[1534]: spa.alsa: 'front:0':
playback open failed: Device or resource busy
Jan 07 1
On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 09:35:03AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 08/01/2025 00:08, Haines Brown wrote:
> > I have no idea how to use pipewire. Do you simply run the comand $ pipewire
> > to
> > get an interface like alsamixer?
>
> Why are you trying to start pipewire manually? Systemd should do
On Wed, Jan 08, 2025 at 09:35:03 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 08/01/2025 00:08, Haines Brown wrote:
> > I have no idea how to use pipewire. Do you simply run the comand $ pipewire
> > to
> > get an interface like alsamixer?
>
> Why are you trying to start pipewire manually? Systemd should do it
On 08/01/2025 00:08, Haines Brown wrote:
I have no idea how to use pipewire. Do you simply run the comand $ pipewire to
get an interface like alsamixer?
Why are you trying to start pipewire manually? Systemd should do it for
you as a part of user session. It is not an application with GUI.
Y
On Thu, Jan 02, 2025 at 10:15:18AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
> Thanks to your heldp, with the help of the correct guide it seems I was able
> to install
> pipewire successflly. To apply it I had to reboot.
I did the reboot and this was the result
> $ pipewire
> [E][00304.248813]
Thanks to your heldp, with the help of the correct guide it seems I was able to
install
pipewire successflly. To apply it I had to reboot.
I assumed that once rebooted I should restart the pipewife daemon with the
command as
follows. Howerver it gave me errors:
$ pipewire
[E]
On Wed, Jan 01, 2025 at 10:31:47AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> 0.3.65 is the version on Debian 12. Why are you following the
> instructions for Debian 11 if you are on Debian 12?
Oops! The wiki did not explicitly say it was for Debian 11 and I
as not sufficiently cautious. I find many directi
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 12:01:52 -0500
Haines Brown wrote:
> It says to start of by doing:
>
> # touch /etc/pipewire/media-session.d/with-pulseaudio
>
> The problem is that I have no /etc/pipewire/ although it is installed:
>
> $ pipewire --version
> pipewire
> Compiled with
I have ALSA and PulseAudio installed, but intend to use PipeWire as principle
server and so
installed that as well, although I gather pipewire is automatically installed
in bookworm. I
follow the guidance of https://wiki.debian.org/PipeWire but get into trouble
right at the start.
It says to
Quoting Linux-Fan (2020-02-13 21:40:13)
> Jonas Smedegaard writes:
>
> > Quoting Linux-Fan (2020-02-13 20:29:47)
> > > having seen this recently on the mailing list, I am interested to
> > > try out `mmdebstrap` (as a replacement for `debootstrap`). The
> > > ultimate goal of my use of these uti
Linux-Fan writes:
Jonas Smedegaard writes:
[...]
Being such a simple invocation, I thought I must have made some rather
obvious mistake, because my command very much follows the manpage. I had
thought that the complex part would only come afterwards :)
I recommend to read section "MODES" i
Jonas Smedegaard writes:
Quoting Linux-Fan (2020-02-13 20:29:47)
> Hello list members,
>
> having seen this recently on the mailing list, I am interested to try out
> `mmdebstrap` (as a replacement for `debootstrap`). The ultimate goal of my
> use of these utilities is to arrive at an image suit
Quoting Linux-Fan (2020-02-13 20:29:47)
> Hello list members,
>
> having seen this recently on the mailing list, I am interested to try out
> `mmdebstrap` (as a replacement for `debootstrap`). The ultimate goal of my
> use of these utilities is to arrive at an image suitable for booting an arm
Hello list members,
having seen this recently on the mailing list, I am interested to try out
`mmdebstrap` (as a replacement for `debootstrap`). The ultimate goal of my
use of these utilities is to arrive at an image suitable for booting an armhf
SBC (Banana Pi M2+ EDU). Existing (overly co
On Vi, 17 mai 19, 22:04:32, Paul Sutton wrote:
> Hi
Hi Paul,
> Following on from Francisco post, I had been thinking about writing
> something about getting started for a while. So decided to just get on
> and do it.
>
> http://zleap.net/debian-getting-started/
>
> I
good effort, and a much needed type of promotion
thanks
On 5/17/19 2:04 PM, Paul Sutton wrote:
Hi
Following on from Francisco post, I had been thinking about writing
something about getting started for a while. So decided to just get on
and do it.
http://zleap.net/debian-getting-started/
I
Hi
Following on from Francisco post, I had been thinking about writing
something about getting started for a while. So decided to just get on
and do it.
http://zleap.net/debian-getting-started/
I am trying to write this from my own view point of being new and
explain how I got started and how
On Sat, 2015-05-23 at 08:24 +0300, Jarle Aase wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for the noise.
>
> I started trying more of the suggestions in different forum threads
> regarding this problem, and
>
>aptitude install qtdeclarative5-dev
>
> solved it.
That sounds like a dependency problem, be sure
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Hi all,
Sorry for the noise.
I started trying more of the suggestions in different forum threads
regarding this problem, and
aptitude install qtdeclarative5-dev
solved it.
Jarle
On 05/23/2015 08:15 AM, Jarle Aase wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have put
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Hi,
I have put aside some time this weekend to see what I can do with Qt
Quick.
However, when I try to compile the skeleton "hello world" application
Qt Creator makes when I create a new project, I get this error:
08:01:47: Running steps for proj
On Friday 02 May 2014 16:22:10 Thierry Chatelet wrote:
Hi list
Trying to install ledgersmb from sid I got error 404: no such file..., when
doing localhost/ledgersmb/setup.pl
I read the Debian doc a bit more and I found in file:
/usr/share/doc/ledgersmb/faq.html the following:
About installat
Hi list
I installed ledgersmb from sid package. I tried to connect to it using
localhost:ledgersmb/setup.pl as stated in many tutorial.I got 'not found'.
All tutorials I found are for ubuntu, none for debian. Anyway, I tried
changing the ownership of /usr/share/ledgersmb as stated in those
tutor
Am 2008-01-25 12:11:35, schrieb Martin Marcher:
> Any specific reason you need a newer kernel? (Again) I wouldn't do that on a
> server machine. Also xen patches are always a couple of versions behind -
> at least in my experience - so they only apply cleanly to the version
> stated on xensource
Y
Am 2008-01-24 21:02:02, schrieb Ted Hilts:
> Also, I was talking about kernel versions higher than yours (up in the
> twenties where yours was 18) and 32 bit. But whether the CPU is 32 bit
Sorry, but I am using the latest "linux-image-2.6.23-1-xen-686" from
Unstable/Sid which I have tried to reb
Am 2008-01-24 23:34:44, schrieb Martin Marcher:
> aptitude install xen-linx-image-2.6-xen-amd64
>
> no i'm not joking, those with the hypervisor and ioemu and i was set, I had
> the 2 or 3 minor updates since etch release and all of those kernels worked
> fine.
I am using the "xen-linx-image-2.6-
Michael D. Norwick wrote:
Michael D. Norwick wrote:
Rick Thomas wrote:
I'm trying to get started with Xen.
Still trying to build a Xen kernel with or without the dfsg. Found
this though;
http://help.lockergnome.com/linux/build-XEN-make-kpkg-ftopict384180.html
Michael
Still trying to compi
Michael D. Norwick wrote:
Rick Thomas wrote:
I'm trying to get started with Xen.
Thanks!
Rick
I don't know if you've been here:
http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_xen3_debian, but, I too am
trying to build a XEN enabled kernel using linux 2.6.23.9. This link
looked straightforward
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 02:59:49PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
> On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Martin Marcher wrote:
>> Rick Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> I sincerely hope that the lack of Xen support in Lenny is a temporary
>>> thing that will be fixed before the first Beta release. Does anybody
>>> know wh
On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Martin Marcher wrote:
Rick Thomas wrote:
I sincerely hope that the lack of Xen support in Lenny is a temporary
thing that will be fixed before the first Beta release. Does anybody
know what's the problem?
The problem is that xen is quite behind with kernels, a
Well, that's too bad.
Is this in any way related to the error messages I got when I tried
to do
aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade
on my Xen/Etch test machine?
I'm particularly concerned about "libc6-xen" being marked broken.
For what it's worth, my other Etch machines navigated
Rick Thomas wrote:
> I sincerely hope that the lack of Xen support in Lenny is a temporary
> thing that will be fixed before the first Beta release. Does anybody
> know what's the problem?
The problem is that xen is quite behind with kernels, afaik it's a HUGE
patch to apply and the most recent
On Jan 24, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Martin Marcher wrote:
Jozef Peterka wrote:
Hi all,
I might be rushing in to conversation, but I will try to install
Debian
Etch and make it Dom0 this very weekend. I really look forward to
it -
although with a little hope to success :)
Nevermind, I wanted wis
Ted Hilts wrote:
> Also, I was talking about kernel versions higher than yours (up in the
> twenties where yours was 18) and 32 bit. But whether the CPU is 32 bit
debian stable highest version number is 2.6.18 so there is no way to get a
stable distro with a higher version number (stable as in: on
Martin
Thanks for your information, you will find my reply further down.
Martin Marcher wrote:
On Thursday 24 January 2008 17:13 Ted Hilts wrote:
Martin
What is the exact kernel version you are running on both machines and
what are their CPU designations? The problems in the past have not
On Thursday 24 January 2008 17:13 Ted Hilts wrote:
> Martin
>
> What is the exact kernel version you are running on both machines and
> what are their CPU designations? The problems in the past have not been
> with the distribution but with various kernels. Did you compile your
> systems from sou
Martin
My reply is at the very bottom.
Ted
Martin Marcher wrote:
Jozef Peterka wrote:
Hi all,
I might be rushing in to conversation, but I will try to install Debian
Etch and make it Dom0 this very weekend. I really look forward to it -
although with a little hope to success :)
Nevermind,
Jozef Peterka wrote:
> Hi all,
> I might be rushing in to conversation, but I will try to install Debian
> Etch and make it Dom0 this very weekend. I really look forward to it -
> although with a little hope to success :)
> Nevermind, I wanted wish you good luck with xen, and the important is
> le
Hi all,
I might be rushing in to conversation, but I will try to install Debian
Etch and make it Dom0 this very weekend. I really look forward to it -
although with a little hope to success :)
Nevermind, I wanted wish you good luck with xen, and the important is
let everybody here know what happene
Rick
My response at very bottom.
Ted
Rick Thomas wrote:
I'm trying to get started with Xen.
I've installed Lenny and a bunch of packages that looked interesting
and mentioned Xen in their descriptions. But there does not seem to
be a Xen enabled kernel available. Is Xen built-in to the Lenn
Hi.
I'd like to get spamassasin going on my desktop (testing/lenny). Mail
enters this box via fetchmail which was configured to poll an imap
server. Exim delivers it to the users. The procmail package is installed.
Configuration of fetchmail was done by fetchmailconf, no special exim
tricks.
Rick Thomas wrote:
I'm trying to get started with Xen.
Thanks!
Rick
I don't know if you've been here:
http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_xen3_debian, but, I too am
trying to build a XEN enabled kernel using linux 2.6.23.9. This link
looked straightforward and possible. I have not g
I'm trying to get started with Xen.
I've installed Lenny and a bunch of packages that looked interesting
and mentioned Xen in their descriptions. But there does not seem to
be a Xen enabled kernel available. Is Xen built-in to the Lenny
kernels, or what?
I plan to spend tonite with my f
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:52:57 -0500
"Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:42:02PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> >
> > >On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote:
> > >>running etc
Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:42:02PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> >
> > >On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote:
> > >>running etch in console (no X);
> > >>
> > >>I just wa
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:41:58PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:
> On Nov 16, 2007, at 3:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It will involve using LDAP to verify the recipients, since you're
> using Exchange 5.5. This is actually a big improvement over how
> Exchange itself deals with mail -- i
On Nov 16, 2007, at 3:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
your description of a mail hub does sound like what I want...
I'll see if I can download the source dist of the exim pkg... & chk
into that that would be REALLY nice...
OK. I'll dig a little to see if I have copies of the config files
On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 19:24 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 03:18:10PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Nov 16, 5:00 pm, "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:42:02PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:
> > > > On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 03:18:10PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Nov 16, 5:00 pm, "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:42:02PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:
> > > On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > > >On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:
mply routes all mail through a host called a smarthost, further
upstream and that smarthost is the one that actually routes the mail.
> that config example looks ALOT closer to a quick getting started
> manual than ANYTHING else i've seen!
> I'll have to dig into it a bit...
On Nov 16, 5:00 pm, "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:42:02PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> > On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>
> > >On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote:
> > >>running etch in console (no X);
>
t be dropped/ignored. All outbound Email will
continue to be sent thru the exchange server. So all exim needs to do,
is filter & forward valid inbound Email...
I read Doug's reply, and I'm not 100% sure what a smarthost is, but
don't think this is that application...
Andrew,
that co
On Nov 16, 4:50 pm, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote:
> >> running etch in console (no X);
>
> >> I just want to take inbound Email & forward to exchange server onl
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:42:02PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>
> >On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote:
> >>running etch in console (no X);
> >>
> >>I just want to take inbound Email & forward to exchange server o
On Nov 16, 2007, at 2:32 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote:
running etch in console (no X);
I just want to take inbound Email & forward to exchange server only
email w/ valid recipients.
isn't there a document that says how to do this in
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote:
> running etch in console (no X);
>
> I just want to take inbound Email & forward to exchange server only
> email w/ valid recipients.
>
> isn't there a document that says how to do this in less than 400
> pages???
I suspect this won'
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 04:04:00PM -0600, Bob Goldberg wrote:
> running etch in console (no X);
>
> I just want to take inbound Email & forward to exchange server only
> email w/ valid recipients.
>
> isn't there a document that says how to do this in less than 400
> pages???
>
No. :)
It sound
running etch in console (no X);
I just want to take inbound Email & forward to exchange server only
email w/ valid recipients.
isn't there a document that says how to do this in less than 400
pages???
TIA
running etch in console (no X);
I just want to take inbound Email & forward to exchange server only
email w/ valid recipients.
isn't there a document that says how to do this in less than 400
pages???
TIA
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On 02/03/07 12:26, David Baron wrote:
> OK, I withdraw the question. Will find useful answers elsewhere or stay with
> OpenOffice's DB (as I said, not all that bad!).
>
> The flame war has gotten too ugly. I think we can argue about the merits of
>
OK, I withdraw the question. Will find useful answers elsewhere or stay with
OpenOffice's DB (as I said, not all that bad!).
The flame war has gotten too ugly. I think we can argue about the merits of
one of the other programs with a bit more common courtesy and civility and
end the discussion
to participate in this thread? The
> >original post that started this thread was a request for help getting
> >started with MySQL or PostgreSQL. I am subscribed to the list and
> >received the message. That's all the invitiation I needed.
> >
> >
>
> Yea
Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 02/02/07 07:54, Dan H. wrote:
>> Danesh Daroui wrote:
>
>>> 5. Again back to your example, yes, the PayPal web site offers you to
>>> choose the data by using a combo box and not inserting it manually. So
>>> the date which is sent to the database is definitely correct befo
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On 02/02/07 07:54, Dan H. wrote:
> Danesh Daroui wrote:
>
>> 5. Again back to your example, yes, the PayPal web site offers you to
>> choose the data by using a combo box and not inserting it manually. So
>> the date which is sent to the database is d
Danesh Daroui wrote:
> 5. Again back to your example, yes, the PayPal web site offers you to
> choose the data by using a combo box and not inserting it manually. So
> the date which is sent to the database is definitely correct before
> inserting.
This is one of the most pathetic things I've eve
Danesh Daroui wrote:
> 5. Again back to your example, yes, the PayPal web site offers you to
> choose the data by using a combo box and not inserting it manually. So
> the date which is sent to the database is definitely correct before
> inserting.
This is one of the most pathetic things I've eve
Danesh Daroui wrote:
> 5. Again back to your example, yes, the PayPal web site offers you to
> choose the data by using a combo box and not inserting it manually. So
> the date which is sent to the database is definitely correct before
> inserting.
This is one of the most pathetic things I've eve
f you are not asked to do so!
Really? Where is your invitation to participate in this thread? The
original post that started this thread was a request for help getting
started with MySQL or PostgreSQL. I am subscribed to the list and
received the message. That's all the invitiation I needed.
1. The one who should learn something is you, and not me. So, I would
suggest you to learn something basic about database concepts and I don't
care if you ever come back or not!
2. You do not have to involve yourself in any single topic you see in
the forum, specially if you are not asked to d
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 09:10:27PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
>
> But you're coming from an angle where people know or must learn all of
> that just before they're able to even start. Don't you see how not
> having to learn that is faster for some people?
>
Ever have to share the road with so
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 05:53:52AM +0100, Danesh Daroui wrote:
>
> What a useless and boring discussion you have started Ron!! Do you have
> to just be against everyone who thinks MySQL has at least some good
> features too? I just dropped the discussion when realized that it goes
> nowhere, but i
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On 02/01/07 23:41, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> That splatting noise is my hurl splatting onto the opposite wall.
>>
>> Remind me never to hire you.
>>
>> Are you sure you don't work for Microsoft? Or maybe you're an MCSE?
>>
>> It's
Ron Johnson wrote:
> That splatting noise is my hurl splatting onto the opposite wall.
>
> Remind me never to hire you.
>
> Are you sure you don't work for Microsoft? Or maybe you're an MCSE?
>
> It's confirmed. You *are* an MCSE.
For that I may implement my next database with MySQL (instead of
Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 02/01/07 20:10, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
>> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:16:18PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
>>>
(2) MySQL is a shorter learning curve for new users
>>> What? In what way? Learning to develop against MySQL
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 20:37 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
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> On 02/01/07 20:10, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
> > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> >> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:16:18PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
> >>
> >>> (2) MySQL is a shorter learning cu
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On 02/01/07 20:10, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:16:18PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
>>
>>> (2) MySQL is a shorter learning curve for new users
>>>
>>>
>> What? In what way? Learning to dev
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:16:18PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
>
>> (2) MySQL is a shorter learning curve for new users
>>
>>
> What? In what way? Learning to develop against MySQL is no harder or
> easier than learning to develop against PostgreSQL (besides
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On 02/01/07 17:03, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 04:37:39PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
[snip]
> Yes, they were "fast" when computers were still slow. Unfortunately,
> many people were willing to give up data integrity in excha
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 04:37:39PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
>
> The fundamental difference is licensing. If Windows was open source, I
> certainly wouldn't bother disagreeing with them if they specified which
> users would benefit more from Windows. And on that issue MySQL wins
> because
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:16:18PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
>
> (1) MySQL is shown to be faster in a single-user environment than
> Postgres, especially with complicated SELECT statements
>
IIRC, this does not hold for transactional tables. So, we are back to
the "if you don't care about y
Ron Johnson wrote:
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On 02/01/07 12:16, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
I've been debating whether or not to make a comment on this discussion,
but it finally got to me. I think you're being way too hard on MySQL
considering the fact that this question ori
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On 02/01/07 07:31, Max Hyre wrote:
> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 02:54:01PM -0900, Joshua J. Kugler wrote:
>>> In that same document, they give the reason for doing so:
>>> "The reason for using the preceding rules in non-stric
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On 02/01/07 12:16, Angelo Bertolli wrote:
> I've been debating whether or not to make a comment on this discussion,
> but it finally got to me. I think you're being way too hard on MySQL
> considering the fact that this question originated from the id
I've been debating whether or not to make a comment on this discussion,
but it finally got to me. I think you're being way too hard on MySQL
considering the fact that this question originated from the idea of
using a database backend for OpenOffice.org. Yeah, I didn't like "MySQL
is definitel
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 04:18:23PM +0200, David Baron wrote:
> Never expected to start a flame-war over this.
>
Hey. We're here to help :-)
> I need visual tools to set the stuff up and run it and they are not evident.
>
Hmm. I like to work from the commandline. If I find myself needing to
"b
Never expected to start a flame-war over this.
I need visual tools to set the stuff up and run it and they are not evident.
Actually, the OpenOffice database is not at all bad (except that it imports
empty spreadsheet items as blanks (NOT EMPTY, NOT NULL). It can be readilly
queried, reports ge
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 02:54:01PM -0900, Joshua J. Kugler wrote:
>
>> In that same document, they give the reason for doing so:
>>
>> "The reason for using the preceding rules in non-strict
>> mode is that we can't check these conditions until the
>> statement has begu
On Thursday, 01.02.2007 at 06:18 +0100, Danesh Daroui wrote:
> About allowing corrupted data, it is not the responsibility of database
> engine to verify if the data is valid or not since the database engine
> only "Manages" data and not validate.
It depends what you mean by 'validate'. The da
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On 01/31/07 23:18, Danesh Daroui wrote:
> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 02:54:01PM -0900, Joshua J. Kugler wrote:
>>
[snip]
> Maybe MySQL is not the best database engine in the world but it is one
> the best engines. I have wor
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 06:18:03AM +0100, Danesh Daroui wrote:
>
> Maybe MySQL is not the best database engine in the world but it is one
> the best engines. I have worked on MySQL for several years and from four
> years ago I have started to develop my own database engine inspired by
> MySQL.
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 02:54:01PM -0900, Joshua J. Kugler wrote:
In that same document, they give the reason for doing so:
"The reason for using the preceding rules in non-strict mode is that we can't
check these conditions until the statement has begun executing.
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 02:54:01PM -0900, Joshua J. Kugler wrote:
>
> In that same document, they give the reason for doing so:
>
> "The reason for using the preceding rules in non-strict mode is that we can't
> check these conditions until the statement has begun executing. We can't just
> rol
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 01:50:14PM -0900, Joshua J. Kugler wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 January 2007 13:19, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > > How do I get started here?
> >
> > First. Please do not use MySQL, unless you don't care about your data.
>
> Please stop this MySQL vs. PostgreSQL bashing. Eac
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 15:27, Ron Johnson wrote:
> You're talking to someone who's been a DBA for 10 years; you will
> not win this argument.
Eh, so ya got three years on me. :)
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