On 09/01/2025 21:15, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Moral of the story: NEVER EVER run "wpctl".

My guess is that it may be a consequence of "wireplumber" you executed earlier. Having no notion what particular components of pipewire/pulse do, I would avoid running random commands supposed to be started as services. They may replace some sockets. On the other hand, wpctl sounds like a part CLI *user* interface.

Frankly speaking, I am totally confused what Haines is trying to achieve and what is their actual configuration. If the approach "read docs & read logs" does not work, I would ask pipewire community.

I am unsure concerning effect of alsa tools while pipewire or pulse is running.

Booting a live image should allow to inspect list of processes and services in a working state. For pipewire it likely should be GNOME rather than KDE, unsure concerning XFCE and others.

I do have DE, but not sddm (I surprised that it appeared in this thread at all). The state is not clean in the sense that the system was installed as bullseye and earlier had pulseaudio. Pipewire appeared during experiments with bluetooth.

apt list '(~npulseaudio|~npipewire|~nwireplumber)~i'
Listing... Done
libkpipewire5/stable,now 5.27.5-3 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libkpipewiredmabuf5/stable,now 5.27.5-3 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libkpipewirerecord5/stable,now 5.27.5-3 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libpipewire-0.3-0/stable,now 0.3.65-3+deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libpipewire-0.3-modules/stable,now 0.3.65-3+deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
libwireplumber-0.4-0/stable,now 0.4.13-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
pipewire-alsa/stable,now 0.3.65-3+deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
pipewire-audio/stable,now 0.3.65-3+deb12u1 all [installed]
pipewire-bin/stable,now 0.3.65-3+deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
pipewire-pulse/stable,now 0.3.65-3+deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
pipewire/stable,now 0.3.65-3+deb12u1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
pulseaudio-utils/stable,now 16.1+dfsg1-2+b1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
qml-module-org-kde-pipewire/stable,now 5.27.5-3 amd64 [installed]
wireplumber/stable,now 0.4.13-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]

(the search pattern is not exhaustive, some related packages may be missed)

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