Hi all, I might be rushing in to conversation, but I will try to install Debian Etch and make it Dom0 this very weekend. I really look forward to it - although with a little hope to success :) Nevermind, I wanted wish you good luck with xen, and the important is let everybody here know what happened. I will do that after weekend as well, I will post my experience in a short mail to this threat.
Have a nice day all KaiSVK On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 00:24 -0700, Ted Hilts wrote: > Rick > My response at very bottom. > Ted > > Rick Thomas wrote: > > I'm trying to get started with Xen. > > > > I've installed Lenny and a bunch of packages that looked interesting > > and mentioned Xen in their descriptions. But there does not seem to > > be a Xen enabled kernel available. Is Xen built-in to the Lenny > > kernels, or what? > > > > I plan to spend tonite with my feet up in the easy chair reading the > > documents in /usr/share/doc/Xen-docs-3.1/ . I hope they will be > > helpful, but they don't seem to mention Debian specifically. I've > > googled every which way, but everything I find is for Etch or Sarge > > and expects me to have a Xen enabled kernel. > > > > More generally, is there a HOWTO or FAQ that would give me some > > pointers to getting Xen up and running? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Rick > > > > > Hi Rick > > Sorry for any typos. There is a problem for newer Debian kernels (as in > the etch distribution) and Xen. They just don't work and there is > currently no patch to save the day. Ubuntu has Xen based recent kernels > which apparently work well but I have not yet tried them. The Xen web > site has 3 Xen options one of which I think is still free. Either one of > these 3 options can be installed providing a DOM 0 basic virtualizing > machine. Also, some of the other Linux distributions like SuSE have Xen > based kernels. Xen based kernels are regular kernels but have the Xen > application compiled into them making them the basis for hardware > virtualization and thus called DOM 0 meaning the virtualization machine > that redirects system calls from DOM U distributions. A DOM U > distribution is virtualized meaning that during the time slice for a > particular DOM U distribution it's system calls get re-routed to the DOM > 0 computer resources (mostly hardware including CPU, memory, drives, LAN > interface, etc.). DOM U distributions each have their own partition and > are activated by the DOM 0 Xen application as a virtual machine.. > There can be as many as 64 partitions in total including the partition > for DOM 0. Most designers prefer to have the DOM 0 Xen system as a > minimal distribution. The DOM 0 distribution can create virtual > machines from it's own distribution so that you might have several > virtual machines each doing one important thing instead of the > conventional way where all these things get done on the one > distribution. Of course, you can run other Linux distributions as DOM U > installations. This is what makes Xen most efficient. > > Your fastest, safest, and best solution right now would be to get one of > the 3 optional systems offered by the Xen developers. Apparently, they > have a blog and I know they have a list. I have a download of the > free Xen package on a CD which is now a year old and which I will be > installing on a computer. I will install a large Debian distribution > as well as smaller Debian distributions each in their own partition and > use them as virtual machines. DOM 0 will be the free Xen package which > took me a week to download and now I am trying to find it. The Xen > documentation describes how the DOM 0 machine is made aware of the DOM U > partitions with their respective distributions. BTW, you can now take a > Windowzzzzz distribution like XP or more recent and run it as a DOM U > virtual machine.That's neat if you have applications like I have that > can only run on Windowzzzzz. But you have to buy a license from MS. > > Hope this information gets you going. There is one fellow on the > debian-user list that has had a Linux Xen system running for about 2 > years or more but that system would be running on an older kernel and he > would have compiled the Xen application into the kernel and I think he > used the AMD CPU. A number of people have tried to update their older > Debian kernel with patches which automatically makes their system non > operational. I think Debian really missed the importance of Xen and to > get a Debian DOM 0 system from the etch distribution was not possible. > Apparently there is a new distribution by what I hear on the list > chatter. That distribution I am not aware of other than it is Debian 4.x > distribution. Hopefully, if that is the case there may now be kernels > available with the Xen application installed. > > Have a nice day and if you get Xen up and running please be kind enough > to let the list know about your configuration and other issues as there > have been many over the last few years that have wanted help and advice. > I reiterate, your best chance of success is to run out of the Xen box as > provided by the Xen developers. > > Thanks -- Ted > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
