How upstream kernel version correlates to version from Debian?

2025-01-18 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
Hello, Debian users. I have stability issues (freezing) on my laptop running Debian 12 (current stable), and, according to logs, the culprit is kernel module i915. My kernel version: $ uname -a Linux hostname 6.1.0-30-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.124-1 (2025-01-12) x86_64 GNU

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-18 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
ogy once, I wonder if they still do)? > > I prefer stability and hence Debian Stable with its "not rolling > release". Even if I don't have yesterday's release, so far that has > not been an issue I cannot get around. > > Nothing is "secure", just ma

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-18 Thread Nicolas George
Andy Smith (12025-01-18): > One particular consequence of this process of making a stable release is > that generally no new features will ever come to the packages in it. No new *features* is not the point of Debian stable, though, only a side effect. The point is: no changes in behavior.

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-18 Thread fxkl47BF
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025, Nicolas George wrote: > Andy Smith (12025-01-18): >> Why do you continue to post to this list > > Why do you continue replying? maybe pocket is an ai toy designed to annoy andy smith

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 02:53:23PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Andy Smith (12025-01-18): > > Why do you continue to post to this list > > Why do you continue replying? Sometimes in an attempt to understand Pocket's behaviour. I mean, I'm aware it's easy to just write it off as trolling.

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 12:14:16PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > On Saturday, 18-01-2025 at 11:47 John Hasler wrote: > > In the case of rsync Debian backported a fix. Therefor it gets the old > > version number with a suffix to indicate that Debian patched it. In the >

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-18 Thread Nicolas George
Andy Smith (12025-01-18): > Why do you continue to post to this list Why do you continue replying? Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-18 Thread Andy Smith
t there are Linux distributions other than Debian that are unconditionally superior to it? You have also posted a number of times that you will not continue to post here, yet you don't seem to follow through on that. You come back, usually to post about how Debian is inferior. Do you need out

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-18 Thread George at Clug
Thanks Roberto, and others who tried to explain Backporting, I will need to read this and think about it for a while. To make comment, I stay away from FlatPacks (the MS world tried this kind of technology once, I wonder if they still do)? I prefer stability and hence Debian Stable with its

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread tomas
don't Exactly. That's the same as others do. Let me attempt once more, after that, I'll give up. See, by now, everyone and their cat in debian-user knows you prefer rolling releases. That's fine, they have their place, their uses and their users. Debian is not, and it goe

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread gene heskett
On 1/17/25 20:30, Max Nikulin wrote: On 18/01/2025 07:34, George at Clug wrote: Would I be correct in assuming this is because the version of Chromium (as in its features) are being updated within  Debian 12 Major browsers are an exception. Security fixes are frequent and massive. The

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread George at Clug
On Saturday, 18-01-2025 at 12:30 Max Nikulin wrote: > On 18/01/2025 07:34, George at Clug wrote: > > Would I be correct in assuming this is because the version of Chromium > > (as in its features) are being updated within Debian 12 > > Major browsers are an exceptio

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 03:21:48 +0100 poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > Stefan > > > > All your post end up in the spam directory of my account on mail.com. > I need to leave them there. Oh, come on, Pocket. He was trolling you, apparently successfully. Turnabout is fair play. -- Does anyb

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 8:30 PM Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 18/01/2025 07:34, George at Clug wrote: > > Would I be correct in assuming this is because the version of Chromium > > (as in its features) are being updated within Debian 12 > > Major browsers are an excep

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread pocket
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 at 9:10 PM > From: "Stefan Monnier" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release? > > > That is why the rolling release method is superior to the old model > > used by oth

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread pocket
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 at 9:10 PM > From: "Roberto C. Sánchez" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release? > > On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 02:36:34AM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > > > T

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread David
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 at 01:14, George at Clug wrote: > So this means that a patched version from : [...] > deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-backports main contrib non-free > non-free-firmware [...] > Was copied into debian-security as in: > deb https://security.de

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
tures and fixes > We know. Now please stop. If you really care about a rolling release and that is the only thing you are interested in discussing, then debian-user is clearly not the right place to be. You can easily find a place that has the type of discussion that you are looking for, and th

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> That is why the rolling release method is superior to the old model > used by others. Yes, and for the same reason non-rolling release distributions of GNU/Linux don't exist. Actually, for that same fundamental reason, there is only one GNU/Linux distribution (the one that "is superior").

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 12:14:16PM +1100, George at Clug wrote: > > I rarely use backports, but when I do, I like the "adjusted and > recompiled for usage on Debian stable" part, much better that grabbing > packages from other distributions and just installing them, hopi

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread pocket
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2025 at 8:30 PM > From: "Max Nikulin" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release? > > On 18/01/2025 07:34, George at Clug wrote: > > Would I be correct in assuming this is because

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/01/2025 07:34, George at Clug wrote: Would I be correct in assuming this is because the version of Chromium (as in its features) are being updated within Debian 12 Major browsers are an exception. Security fixes are frequent and massive. The upstream teams do not maintain stable

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread George at Clug
On Saturday, 18-01-2025 at 11:47 John Hasler wrote: > In the case of rsync Debian backported a fix. Therefor it gets the old > version number with a suffix to indicate that Debian patched it. In the > case of chromium upstream patched it and released the patched version > with a

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread John Hasler
In the case of rsync Debian backported a fix. Therefor it gets the old version number with a suffix to indicate that Debian patched it. In the case of chromium upstream patched it and released the patched version with a new version number. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread George at Clug
in Debian 12, rsync's version will remain at 3.2.7-1, the security patched version number is 3.2.7-1+deb12u2. Hence there is no need for me to be concerned about Debian 12 security. What I am confused about is that chromium does change its version, for example "131.0.6778.264-1~d

Are Debian packages updated within a release?

2025-01-17 Thread George at Clug
Hi, Are Debian packages updated within a release? After running: "# apt update" # apt list -a linux-image-amd64 Listing... Done linux-image-amd64/stable-backports 6.11.10-1~bpo12+1 amd64 linux-image-amd64/stable-updates 6.1.124-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 6.1.106-3] linux-image-am

Re: Debian 12 linking issue with libvukan (undefined reference) with GNU C++ compiler/ld

2025-01-16 Thread Johannes Krottmayer
Hello Greg! On 1/16/25 21:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 20:27:17 +, Johannes Krottmayer wrote: >> $ g++ -lvulkan -o test test.cpp > > If I recall correctly, the library options need to be *after* the object > files that use them. Thus: > > g++ -o test test.cpp -lvu

Re: Debian 12 linking issue with libvukan (undefined reference) with GNU C++ compiler/ld

2025-01-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 20:27:17 +, Johannes Krottmayer wrote: > $ g++ -lvulkan -o test test.cpp If I recall correctly, the library options need to be *after* the object files that use them. Thus: g++ -o test test.cpp -lvulkan

Debian 12 linking issue with libvukan (undefined reference) with GNU C++ compiler/ld

2025-01-16 Thread Johannes Krottmayer
Hello, I have encountered an issue when trying to compile and link against libvulkan with the GNU C++ compiler and GNU ld. Get 'undefined reference' errors on all library calls with: $ g++ -lvulkan -o test test.cpp The related package is installed on my system (also the development package libvu

Re: Enlightenment 0.27 in new Debian release

2025-01-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed Jan 15, 2025 at 5:31 PM GMT, Paulo Igor Barra Nascimento wrote: Any chances to see E27 in Trixie release? Reasonable chance I think, unless the changes in E27 are contrary to the DFSG or something (unlikely). The enlightenment package appears to be currently maintained. You would get a

Enlightenment 0.27 in new Debian release

2025-01-15 Thread Paulo Igor Barra Nascimento
Any chances to see E27 in Trixie release?

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-13 Thread Richard Owlett
uot;Off Topic" for this list. [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/12/msg00401.html [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/12/msg00411.html [3] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2025/01/msg00230.html

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Paul M. Foster wrote: > I would suggest moc (Music On Console). It's a terminal app, but it's very > easy to operate. Simple single character commands, but no real menus. It's > not a GUI per se, but uses ncurses. If you can deal with the terminal > visually, moc should work for you. I use moc re

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-12 Thread David Wright
s too coarse was answered (±1sec is better than your "point x minutes into a file"). So what's the real problem? > 2. Is there a mailing list or USENET group where application specific > newbie questions would be appropriate? If a Debian application doesn't work, then que

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-12 Thread debian-user
Richard Owlett wrote: > On 1/11/25 8:06 AM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > *SNIP* > >> > >> Due to vision and perception issues, I avoid sites over using > >> graphics or requiring JavaScript. For support I look for

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-12 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-01-11 14:18, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 07:01:23 -0700, Fred wrote: On 1/11/25 05:58, Richard Owlett wrote: > However I'm making practical use of mp3 files for the first time > (currently a dozen lectures). I looked for an mp3 player whose GUI took > up a very minimal a

Deleting/removing content from Debian mailing lists [WAS Re: Mailing list conduct and long threads]

2025-01-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 02:02:45PM +0800, hlyg wrote: > is it possible for moderator to remove posts that go astray too far when > archiving? > Hi hlyg, The Debian lists don't work quite that way. It's quite hard to establish that there's nothing useful even in the longe

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-12 Thread Olafur Jens Sigurdsson
pplication with newbie friendly docs? >[VLC has attractive features but ...] > 2. Is there a mailing list or USENET group where application specific >newbie questions would be appropriate? Application specific questions are relevant here on debian-user as long as the application is

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-12 Thread Richard Owlett
forward. Hi, mpg123 is a command line program that plays mp3s. So is mplayer. As far as graphical programs, I think gmplayer has a fairly small footprint, but I might have used it once. It's not in Debian repository. I had visited its homepage in my initial search. It is a "movie playe

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 1/11/25 9:00 AM, Paul M. Foster wrote: On 1/11/25 07:58, Richard Owlett wrote: *SNIP* However I'm making practical use of mp3 files for the first time (currently a dozen lectures). I looked for an mp3 player whose GUI took up a very minimal amount of screen real estate.*SNIP* I would sug

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 1/11/25 8:06 AM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: *SNIP* Due to vision and perception issues, I avoid sites over using graphics or requiring JavaScript. For support I look for USENET groups &/or mailing lists (not having found _any_ usable WEB based fora)

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-12 Thread Joe
On Sun, 12 Jan 2025 04:05:01 -0600 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 1/11/25 8:01 AM, Fred wrote: > > On 1/11/25 05:58, Richard Owlett wrote: > > *SNIP* > >> However I'm making practical use of mp3 files for the first time > >> (currently a dozen lectures). I looked for an mp3 player whose GUI > >>

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 1/11/25 8:01 AM, Fred wrote: On 1/11/25 05:58, Richard Owlett wrote: *SNIP* However I'm making practical use of mp3 files for the first time (currently a dozen lectures). I looked for an mp3 player whose GUI took up a very minimal amount of screen real estate. I was referred to several ov

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-11 Thread Thomas George
As I am 95 and my first computer was a Royal Mcbee using punched paper tape. VLC is ok but mostly I use mpv from a terminal Tom On 1/11/25 07:58, Richard Owlett wrote: As I'm over 80 and a computer *user* since introduction via Hollerith cards and line-printers in 60's (q.v. CORC & CUPL - BASI

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-11 Thread eben
On 1/11/25 09:01, Fred wrote: > On 1/11/25 05:58, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> I looked for an mp3 player whose GUI took up >> a very minimal amount of screen real estate. I was referred to several >> overpowered complex candidates and chose VLC as most straight forward. >> > Hi, > mpg123 is a comma

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-11 Thread Paul M. Foster
On 1/11/25 07:58, Richard Owlett wrote: As I'm over 80 and a computer *user* since introduction via Hollerith cards and line-printers in 60's (q.v. CORC & CUPL - BASIC didn't exist) and later using an Acoustic coupler with an RBBS, I'm not a newbie per se. However I'm making practical use of

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 07:01:23 -0700, Fred wrote: > On 1/11/25 05:58, Richard Owlett wrote: > > However I'm making practical use of mp3 files for the first time > > (currently a dozen lectures). I looked for an mp3 player whose GUI took > > up a very minimal amount of screen real estate. > mpg12

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-11 Thread debian-user
Richard Owlett wrote: > As I'm over 80 and a computer *user* since introduction via Hollerith > cards and line-printers in 60's (q.v. CORC & CUPL - BASIC didn't > exist) and later using an Acoustic coupler with an RBBS, I'm not a > newbie per se. > > However I'm making practical use of mp3 files

Re: Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-11 Thread Fred
On 1/11/25 05:58, Richard Owlett wrote: As I'm over 80 and a computer *user* since introduction via Hollerith cards and line-printers in 60's (q.v. CORC & CUPL - BASIC didn't exist) and later using an Acoustic coupler with an RBBS, I'm not a newbie per se. However I'm making practical use of m

Finding appropriate support for packages in Debian repository

2025-01-11 Thread Richard Owlett
As I'm over 80 and a computer *user* since introduction via Hollerith cards and line-printers in 60's (q.v. CORC & CUPL - BASIC didn't exist) and later using an Acoustic coupler with an RBBS, I'm not a newbie per se. However I'm making practical use of mp3 files for the first time (currently a

Re: debian kernel compiler [SOLVED]

2025-01-05 Thread Istvan Toth
Hi, The debian kernel compile problem has been solved.The details can be found under the title. Thank you for your help, regards you ti

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-05 Thread Istvan Toth
ive". To see the available options of GCC's "march" you can use this command: $ gcc --target-help -march=foo given a bogus architecture (foo) forces GCC to list all "march" options in the error message. The GCC version I use is: "gcc (Debian 12.2.0-14) 12.2.0" ¹ https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Ryzen#Ryzen_7 ² https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/AMDGPU ³ https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=935536

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-05 Thread Christian Groessler
Istvan, I suspect you've got a bad memory chip. Try running a memory test. regards. chris On 1/4/25 20:58, Istvan Toth wrote: Hi Marko, thank you for your detailed and thorough advice. I implemented them, everything ran without errors. But unfortunately the error persists, Building module:

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-04 Thread pocket
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2025 at 7:12 PM > From: "Jeffrey Walton" > To: poc...@homemail.com > Cc: "debian-user" > Subject: Re: debian kernel compiler > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 4:17 PM wrote: > > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 0

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 4:17 PM wrote: > > > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2025 at 11:54 AM > > From: "Lee" > > To: "Franco Martelli" > > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: debian kernel compiler > > > > On Sat, Jan

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-04 Thread Franco Martelli
ems like "march=native" would be more correct.. or at least less chances of an error. ... assuming there are no drawbacks to using "march=native". To see the available options of GCC's "march" you can use this command: $ gcc --target-help -march=foo give

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-04 Thread Istvan Toth
Hi Marko, thank you for your detailed and thorough advice. I implemented them, everything ran without errors. But unfortunately the error persists, Building module: Cleaning build area... env NV_VERBOSE=1 make -j16 modules KERNEL_UNAME=6.1.119-fah105..(bad exit status: 2) Erro

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> M.2 SSD Drive: 250GB NVME SSD One more thing to consider: if you look at the current price of SSDs, you'll see that price per GB is significantly higher for drives <500GB. The better "bang for buck" is between 500GB and 2TB nowadays. [ This said, personally, I can't find much use for sizes

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-04 Thread pocket
> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2025 at 11:54 AM > From: "Lee" > To: "Franco Martelli" > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: debian kernel compiler > > On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 7:52 AM Franco Martelli wrote: > > > > On 02/0

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-04 Thread Lee
On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 7:52 AM Franco Martelli wrote: > > On 02/01/25 at 12:53, Istvan Toth wrote: > > amd 5700G cpu > > If you are new to kernel compiling maybe you don't know that you can > optimize the kernel for your specific CPU architecture, if you are using > the GCC compiler: > > first make

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-04 Thread Franco Martelli
On 02/01/25 at 12:53, Istvan Toth wrote: amd 5700G cpu If you are new to kernel compiling maybe you don't know that you can optimize the kernel for your specific CPU architecture, if you are using the GCC compiler: first make a backup copy of the Makefile: $ cd linux-source-6.1 $ cp arch/x8

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-03 Thread Istvan Toth
Hi Thomas, Okay, I'll try, but since December 26th there hasn't been a good compiler, even though I compile 5-6 times a day, waiting for the "messiah". I'm using the suggested 2>&1 | tee -i "$HOME"/make_deb_pkg_log_90. Regards, you ti On 1/2/25 21:40, Thomas Schmitt wrote: It would be interes

Re: Debian News before 2022 have disappeared

2025-01-02 Thread Luna Jernberg
Forwarded this thread there now too Den tors 2 jan. 2025 kl 23:27 skrev Andy Smith : > > Hi, > > On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 04:54:53PM +0100, Jean-Claude Arbaut wrote: > > I just noticed some of my browser favorites pointing to Debian News ( > > http://www.debian.org/News/..

Re: Debian News before 2022 have disappeared

2025-01-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Dec 08, 2024 at 04:54:53PM +0100, Jean-Claude Arbaut wrote: > I just noticed some of my browser favorites pointing to Debian News ( > http://www.debian.org/News/...) are now dead. I seems all news before maybe > 2022 have disappeared, while there were not so long ago (a f

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
prised the mailing list actually allowed > this. I did not get that mail of 20:12:09 +0100 by Istvan Toth. The thread in the archive https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2025/01/threads.html currently shows a hole before your mail of 14:45:14 -0500. The answers to my mails from Istvan To

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-02 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Wednesday 01 January 2025 09:35:53 pm hen...@privatembox.com wrote: > On 02.01.2025 03:07, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 00:36:15 +0100 > > hen...@privatembox.com wrote: > > > >> I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. >

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-02 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Wednesday 01 January 2025 09:07:40 pm Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 00:36:15 +0100 > hen...@privatembox.com wrote: > > > I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. > > Can you suggest one for that purpose? > > Happy new year all

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-02 Thread Istvan Toth
Hello Thomas, every time it's about newly built packages, because the .config file that I usually consider to be correct has not been able to compile properly. Regards

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
tion. I thought the difference of 40 minutes versus 4 hourd was with the run time of make deb-pkg LOCALVERSION=fah79 ... as in 8.10.4. "Compiling and Building the Package" of https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.kernel-compilation.html So i now wonder whether the diffe

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
ms: autoinstall for kernel: 6.1.119-fah79 failed! I would look in /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current/535.216.01/build/make.log as it says. I don't believe linux-image-6.1.119-fah79_6.1.119-1_amd64.deb is a Debian kernel package. If you got this from a third-party source, or if you built it yours

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-02 Thread Istvan Toth
Hi Thomas, Thanks for your advice, no, there is no message, it seems that the header and image deb packages (header and image) are downloaded correctly. However, when dpkg -i extracts the header there is no problem, but when installing the image the build module does not run during the short-t

Re: debian kernel compiler

2025-01-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Istvan Toth wrote: > Most > times, about 100 times so far, the compiler ran at 40 minutes, but then it > does not compile the nvidia-current 183.216.01 or the 535.183.01 module. > Because of this, there will be no /boot/initrd.img file, the boot will not > start. This would match a prematurel

debian kernel compiler

2025-01-02 Thread Istvan Toth
Hi, Happy New Year.Bookworm 12.08, amd 5700G cpu, ASUS ROG STRIX B550-A GAMING mobo, want to compile custom kernel, based on `The Debian Administrator's Handbook/8.10. Compiling a Kernel`. The compiler runs in two parts. Most times, about 100 times so far, the compiler ran at 40 minutes

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-02 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2025 02 Jan 00:29 -0600, john doe wrote: > On 1/2/25 00:36, hen...@privatembox.com wrote: > > I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. > > Can you suggest one for that purpose? > > > > No can do, why are you asking this question? > > Le

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread john doe
On 1/2/25 00:36, hen...@privatembox.com wrote: I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. Can you suggest one for that purpose? No can do, why are you asking this question? Lenovo laptops are not that bad and you can without to much issues repare them yourself. Note that

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread Charles Curley
one hog wild, but I blew it out to 64GB. Some of that is used for video memory. The remainder is 62.5GB. Of which I am currently using 6.02GB with Debian 12 and XFCE. My plan is that this one will last me for a while. It has two slots for memory. I don't know whether you can put one stick in

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wed, Jan 1, 2025, at 7:21 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Memory: 8GB > > I live quite happily with 8GB of RAM in several of my machines, but > that's for machines which I've owned for more than 10 years already, so > I think it's OK for a new machine only if you can later bump it to 16GB, > ot

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread henrik
On 02.01.2025 03:07, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 00:36:15 +0100 hen...@privatembox.com wrote: I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. Can you suggest one for that purpose? Happy new year all debian members. https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-t4

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Memory: 8GB I live quite happily with 8GB of RAM in several of my machines, but that's for machines which I've owned for more than 10 years already, so I think it's OK for a new machine only if you can later bump it to 16GB, otherwise the machine will probably be painful to use in 5-10 years

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 02 Jan 2025 00:36:15 +0100 hen...@privatembox.com wrote: > I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. > Can you suggest one for that purpose? > Happy new year all debian members. https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-t4-gnulinux-laptop -- Does any

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread Eike Lantzsch ZP5CGE / KY4PZ
On Wednesday, 1 January 2025 20:36:15 GMT-3 hen...@privatembox.com wrote: > I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. > Can you suggest one for that purpose? > Happy new year all debian members. > > Thanks. Hi Henrik, depends where you are located. I have excel

Re: laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Jan 1, 2025 at 6:36 PM wrote: > > I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. > Can you suggest one for that purpose? Can you state the problem you are having selecting a laptop among the near endless choices? > Happy new year all debian members. Jeff

laptop for debian 12

2025-01-01 Thread henrik
I am considering to buy a new laptop for debian 12 installed. Can you suggest one for that purpose? Happy new year all debian members. Thanks.

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Re: Debian GNU/Linux 9 is now available - from Trixie?!

2024-12-31 Thread Rafał Lichwała
OK, I've found it - sorry for bothering. It's a bug in plasma-discover package: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1088369 EOT. Regards, Rafal On 31.12.2024 11:06 AM, Rafał Lichwała wrote: Hi, I've got Debian Trixie installed on three different machines (one

Debian GNU/Linux 9 is now available - from Trixie?!

2024-12-31 Thread Rafał Lichwała
Hi, I've got Debian Trixie installed on three different machines (one laptop and two PCs) and on all of them there is the same strange issue: Discover application (the one for app management under KDE Plasma) shows the green box (at the top of the app window) with text: "Debian G

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-29 Thread David Christensen
. On my Dell machines with NVMe drives, I must change the Setup settings for Debian to see NVMe drives: -> Settings    -> System Configuration    -> SATA Operation -> AHCI YEEES! That was the right solution in my case! Thank you very much! That user support mailing list (deb

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-29 Thread Rafał Lichwała
On 29.12.2024 15:02, Andrii Kalashnykov wrote: Try switching the SATA Operation mode back to what it was before you switched it to AHCI mode, boot into Windows and do either [1] or [2]. Then switch the SATA Operation mode back to AHCI. [1] https://support.thinkcritical.com/kb/articles/switch-wi

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-29 Thread Andrii Kalashnykov
from those details. > > Dell XPS 13 (the old model, 9370), Intel UHD Graphics 620 > > > On my Dell machines with NVMe drives, I must change the Setup > > settings for Debian to see NVMe drives: > > > > -> Settings > >    -> System Configuration > &

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-29 Thread George at Clug
On Monday, 30-12-2024 at 01:34 Rafał Lichwała wrote: > > On 29.12.2024 07:21, George at Clug wrote: > > 4) If you want to dual boot, then I do not see issues using Debian Bookworm > > to do this. I would boot into Debian (i.e. Grub), from where I select > > either

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-29 Thread Rafał Lichwała
Thank you Joe! I had to switch back in SATA settings from "AHCI" to "Raid ON" again to restore Windows boot. Regards, Rafal On 29.12.2024 15:39, Joe wrote: It can be recovered, it may take a little work. First, does the laptop have a UEFI menu available on a hotkey during startup? You may ne

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-29 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 8:05 PM Rafał Lichwała wrote: > > I plan to switch completely from Windows 11 to Debian on my laptop, but > as a first step I'd like to configure double-boot setup to give it a > try, look around and check if all hardware works fine under De

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-29 Thread Joe
On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 14:10:33 +0100 Rafał Lichwała wrote: > Even if Windows is finally lost, I accept that. No user data is lost > (everything is already in the cloud), but at most some wasted time on > configuration of Windows is lost ;-) > > It can be recovered, it may take a little work.

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-29 Thread Rafał Lichwała
On 29.12.2024 07:21, George at Clug wrote: 4) If you want to dual boot, then I do not see issues using Debian Bookworm to do this. I would boot into Debian (i.e. Grub), from where I select either Windows or Debian. If my primary use is Windows, then I edit grub to boot to Windows first. I

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-29 Thread Rafał Lichwała
On 29.12.2024 06:02, David Wright wrote: It doesn't need to. Switch to UEFI mode, and the ESP will boot into Windows. As you can see in my previous reply in this thread - now I've got both Trixie and Windows in GRUB, but Windows does not boot (BSOD). Do you know what to try to recover? Re

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-29 Thread Rafał Lichwała
On 29.12.2024 03:40, Charles Curley wrote: Is there any reason for trixie? Both trixie and its installer (d-i) are evolving and may not give you useful results. I suggest you use the current Stable, Debian 12.8, bookworm. Trixie has KDE Plasma 6. I'm OK with constantly evolving D

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-29 Thread Rafał Lichwała
drives, I must change the Setup settings for Debian to see NVMe drives: -> Settings    -> System Configuration    -> SATA Operation -> AHCI YEEES! That was the right solution in my case! Thank you very much! That user support mailing list (debian-user) is amazing! I did not ex

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-28 Thread George at Clug
On Sunday, 29-12-2024 at 11:20 Rafał Lichwała wrote: > Hi, > > I plan to switch completely from Windows 11 to Debian on my laptop, but > as a first step I'd like to configure double-boot setup to give it a > try, look around and check if all hardware works fine under

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun 29 Dec 2024 at 01:20:17 (+0100), Rafał Lichwała wrote: > > I plan to switch completely from Windows 11 to Debian on my laptop, > but as a first step I'd like to configure double-boot setup to give it > a try, look around and check if all hardware works fine under Debian. &

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

2024-12-28 Thread David Christensen
On 12/28/24 16:20, Rafał Lichwała wrote: Hi, I plan to switch completely from Windows 11 to Debian on my laptop, Make? Dell, below. It is better to state this information at the top of your message. Model? but as a first step I'd like to configure double-boot setup to give

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