Re: From SSD to NVME

On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 12:52 AM Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 7:47 PM Felix Miata wrote: >> >> Andy Smith composed on 2024-12-03 19:48 (UTC): >> >> > On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 14:31:14 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> >> >> pocket's system is the outlier here. It's the only

Re: From SSD to NVME

Timothy M Butterworth composed on 2024-12-03 20:36 (UTC-0500): >> pocket composed on 2024-12-03 12:01 (UTC+0100): >> > [alarm@alarm ~]$ ls -l / >> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Nov 25 19:15 bin -> usr/bin >> > drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 31 1969 boot >> … The rest of what the above w

Re: From SSD to NVME

On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 7:47 PM Felix Miata wrote: > Andy Smith composed on 2024-12-03 19:48 (UTC): > > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 14:31:14 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > >> pocket's system is the outlier here. It's the only one where there > >> isn't a separate usr/sbin. > > > For some reason po

Re: From SSD to NVME

pocket composed on 2024-12-03 23:26 (UTC+0100): >>> [alarm@alarm ~]$ ls -l / >>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Nov 25 19:15 bin -> usr/bin >>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 31 1969 boot >> … >> What Debian puts a FAT filesystem on /boot/? Is that a systemd-boot >

Re: From SSD to NVME

> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2024 at 5:10 PM > From: "Felix Miata" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: From SSD to NVME > > pocket composed on 2024-12-03 22:53 (UTC+0100): > > >> From: "Felix Miata" > > >> pocket composed on 2024-12-03 22:13 (UTC+0100): > > pocket compos

Re: From SSD to NVME

> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2024 at 5:07 PM > From: "Greg Wooledge" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: From SSD to NVME > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 22:50:42 +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > Doesn't the manual/book suggest that you can create the partition layout > > and f

Re: From SSD to NVME

pocket composed on 2024-12-03 22:53 (UTC+0100): >> From: "Felix Miata" >> pocket composed on 2024-12-03 22:13 (UTC+0100): pocket composed on 2024-12-03 12:01 (UTC+0100): > [alarm@alarm ~]$ ls -l / > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Nov 25 19:15 bin -> usr/bin > drwxr-xr-x 3 r

Re: From SSD to NVME

On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 22:50:42 +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > Doesn't the manual/book suggest that you can create the partition layout and > filesystem as you would like? Why all the double-speak and vagueness? Did you manually create a FAT file system, and tell the installer to mount tha

Re: From SSD to NVME

> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2024 at 4:31 PM > From: "Felix Miata" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: From SSD to NVME > > pocket composed on 2024-12-03 22:13 (UTC+0100): > > >> pocket composed on 2024-12-03 12:01 (UTC+0100): > > >>> [alarm@alarm ~]$ ls -l / > >>> lrwxrwxrwx

Re: From SSD to NVME

> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2024 at 4:27 PM > From: "Greg Wooledge" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: From SSD to NVME > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 22:13:36 +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > > From: "Felix Miata" > > > What Debian puts a FAT filesystem on /boot/? Is that a

Re: From SSD to NVME

pocket composed on 2024-12-03 22:13 (UTC+0100): >> pocket composed on 2024-12-03 12:01 (UTC+0100): >>> [alarm@alarm ~]$ ls -l / >>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Nov 25 19:15 bin -> usr/bin >>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 31 1969 boot >> … >> What Debian puts a FAT filesystem on /boot

Re: From SSD to NVME

On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 22:13:36 +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > From: "Felix Miata" > > What Debian puts a FAT filesystem on /boot/? Is that a systemd-boot > > configuration? > > Mine for one... Which version of Debian was that, when you installed? Or was it Arch? > The install pro

Re: From SSD to NVME

poc...@homemail.com wrote: >"Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: >> >> As someone else has put it elsewhere in the thread: new laptop means >> new drivers, potentially moving from legacy MBR to UEFI ... easier in >> many ways to put a clean install of Debian on from new media to start >> with (also wiping o

Re: From SSD to NVME

> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2024 at 3:30 PM > From: "Felix Miata" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: From SSD to NVME > > Andy Smith composed on 2024-12-03 19:48 (UTC): > > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 14:31:14 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > >> pocket's system is the outlier he

Re: Maling list for Debain wiki issues?

to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 12:17:22PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Does anyone know which Debian mailing list should be used for wiki >> discussions? >> >> Here are some resources, but I cannot find contact info or a mailing list. >> >>* List of m

Re: From SSD to NVME

Andy Smith composed on 2024-12-03 19:48 (UTC): > On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 14:31:14 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> pocket's system is the outlier here. It's the only one where there >> isn't a separate usr/sbin. > For some reason pocket keeps telling us on a Debian list things about > their Arch

Re: From SSD to NVME

Hi, On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 02:31:14PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > pocket's system is the outlier here. It's the only one where there > isn't a separate usr/sbin. For some reason pocket keeps telling us on a Debian list things about their Arch Linux system (actually). Thanks, Andy -- https:

Re: VirtualBox and Windows VMs

On Tuesday, 03-12-2024 at 22:26 Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2024 03 Dec 02:33 -0600, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 3 Dec 2024 00:11 +, from p...@hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook): > > > Once upon a time I had Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 VMs running > > > under VirtualBox on Debi

Re: Maling list for Debain wiki issues?

On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 08:37:24PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 12:17:22PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Does anyone know which Debian mailing list should be used for wiki > > discussions? > > > > Here are some resources, but I cannot find cont

Re: Maling list for Debain wiki issues?

On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 12:17:22PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Does anyone know which Debian mailing list should be used for wiki > discussions? > > Here are some resources, but I cannot find contact info or a mailing list. > >* List of mailing lists:

Re: From SSD to NVME

On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 09:44:32 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Greg Wooledge composed on 2024-12-03 07:15 (UTC-0500): > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 12:01:15 +0100, pocket wrote: > >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Nov 25 19:15 sbin -> usr/bin > > That's not how Debian 12 has it. > > > hobbit:~$ ls

Maling list for Debain wiki issues?

Hi Everyone, Does anyone know which Debian mailing list should be used for wiki discussions? Here are some resources, but I cannot find contact info or a mailing list. * List of mailing lists: * Debian wiki: * Debia

Re: why do errors stop during backup

>> i have an old pci analog video capture card that uses bttv >> it fills the log with timeout errors, 1 or 2 per minute >> bttv: 2: timeout: drop=725178 irq=4905870/4927747, risc=2014e424, bits: HSYNC >> each night i run a backup with rsync >> during that backup time there are no bttv errors >> th

Re: From SSD to NVME

pocket composed on 2024-12-03 09:40 (UTC-0500): >> From: "Felix Miata" >> pocket composed on 2024-12-03 12:01 (UTC+0100): >>> The "drivers" are part of the kernel >> Sort of: >> # inxi -Sd >> System: >> Host: ab250 Kernel: 6.1.0-25-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 >> Console: pty pts/0 Distro: D

Re: From SSD to NVME

> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2024 at 10:07 AM > From: "Felix Miata" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, poc...@columbus.rr.com > Subject: Re: From SSD to NVME > > pocket composed on 2024-12-03 09:40 (UTC-0500): > > >> From: "Felix Miata" > > >> pocket composed on 2024-12-03 12:01 (UTC+0100): >

Re: From SSD to NVME

poc...@homemail.com (12024-12-03): > [alarm@alarm ~]$ pacman -Q|grep bash > bash 5.2.037-1 > > dpkg -l|grep bash > ii bash 5.2.15-2+b7 > arm64GNU Bourne Again SHell > > How did that happen? I do not know, but unless you start making

Re: From SSD to NVME

Greg Wooledge composed on 2024-12-03 07:15 (UTC-0500): > On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 12:01:15 +0100, pocket wrote: >> [alarm@alarm ~]$ ls -l / >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Nov 25 19:15 bin -> usr/bin >> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 31 1969 boot >> drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 3980 Dec 2

Re: From SSD to NVME

> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2024 at 9:24 AM > From: "Felix Miata" > To: poc...@homemail.com, debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: From SSD to NVME > > poc...@homemail.com composed on 2024-12-03 12:01 (UTC+0100): > > >> As someone else has put it elsewhere in the thread: new laptop mea

Re: Trying to configure hibernate / resume

>> > The answer seems to be to install with LVM and encryption. That ensures >> > that the swap area is encrypted and *cannot* be messed with while the >> > device is hibernated (which is the rationale for Secure Boot not allowing >> > hibernation to a "naked" swap partition). >> How does UEFI know

Re: From SSD to NVME

poc...@homemail.com composed on 2024-12-03 12:01 (UTC+0100): >> As someone else has put it elsewhere in the thread: new laptop means >> new drivers, potentially moving from legacy MBR to UEFI ... easier in >> many ways to put a clean install of Debian on from new media to start >> with (also wipin

Re: From SSD to NVME

> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2024 at 8:22 AM > From: "Nicolas George" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: From SSD to NVME > > poc...@homemail.com (12024-12-03): > > What namespace would that be > > I just said it: the namespace for completion. > > -- > Nicolas George > > [ala

Re: VirtualBox and Windows VMs

George at Clug writes: I would also recommend the free version of VMware Workstation. While not FOSS, it is an excellent product, while it is made available for personal use. Don't want to spread fear but it's worth reminding that relying on software owned by Oracle, even when distributed fo

Re: From SSD to NVME

poc...@homemail.com (12024-12-03): > What namespace would that be I just said it: the namespace for completion. -- Nicolas George

Re: From SSD to NVME

> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2024 at 7:50 AM > From: "Nicolas George" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: From SSD to NVME > > poc...@homemail.com (12024-12-03): > > Why hasn't debian done so? > > Because polluting the completion namespace with commands useful once in > a blue mo

Re: From SSD to NVME

poc...@homemail.com (12024-12-03): > Why hasn't debian done so? Because polluting the completion namespace with commands useful once in a blue moon for administrators is a stupid idea. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: VirtualBox and Windows VMs

On 03/12/2024 00:11, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Once upon a time I had Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 VMs running under VirtualBox on Debian 10 or earlier. Now I need one for some primitive, but essential program I cannot remember how I created the VMs (Gene's disease, 88 come Sunday) and

Re: From SSD to NVME

> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2024 at 7:15 AM > From: "Greg Wooledge" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: From SSD to NVME > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 12:01:15 +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > [alarm@alarm ~]$ ls -l / > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Nov 25 19:15 bin -> us

Re: From SSD to NVME

On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 12:01:15 +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > [alarm@alarm ~]$ ls -l / > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Nov 25 19:15 bin -> usr/bin > drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 31 1969 boot > drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 3980 Dec 2 10:38 dev > drwxr-xr-x 52 root root 4096 Dec 2

Re: From SSD to NVME

On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 12:01:15PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: [...] > When people state the above it really just shows they don't understand Linux. I'd guess Andrew Cater understands Linux better than you and me taken together, but hey. He's been contributing to Debian since (at least) la

Re: VirtualBox and Windows VMs

* On 2024 03 Dec 02:33 -0600, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 3 Dec 2024 00:11 +, from p...@hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook): > > Once upon a time I had Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 VMs running > > under VirtualBox on Debian 10 or earlier. Now I need one for some primitive, > > but ess

Re: From SSD to NVME

> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2024 at 3:52 AM > From: "Andrew M.A. Cater" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: From SSD to NVME > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 02:55:07AM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > > > > > > It might be easier to produce a clean new install and then just rsy

Re: VirtualBox and Windows VMs

On Tuesday, 03-12-2024 at 21:04 jeremy ardley wrote: > > > On 3/12/24 16:49, George at Clug wrote: > > I would also recommend the free version of VMware Workstation. While not > > FOSS, it is an excellent product, while it is made available for > > personal use > > > No it's not! VMware Wo

Re: where is mail.log

On Monday, December 2, 2024 4:04:12 PM CET, Andy Smith wrote: Unfortunately rather common practice though even before systemd-journald of course: Exim, Apache HTTPD Server, HAProxy, … (some of these CAN be configured to log to syslog, it's just not their default state) iirc, and the referenced

Re: VirtualBox and Windows VMs

On 3/12/24 16:49, George at Clug wrote: I would also recommend the free version of VMware Workstation. While not FOSS, it is an excellent product, while it is made available for personal use No it's not! VMware Workstation is a buggy as hell on Windows and nearly unusable on Debian. I

Re: where is mail.log

On Tue Dec 3, 2024 at 3:11 AM GMT, Greg Wooledge wrote: What I don't know, and don't think anyone on this list knows, is why *Debian* chose to toss the human-readable separate text log files away in favor of the systemd monolithic binary journal. The bug that documents rsyslog moving from prior

Re: From SSD to NVME

On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 02:55:07AM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > > > It might be easier to produce a clean new install and then just rsync > > data from the SSD drive to the appropriate directories on the NVME. > > No it is better that everything comes over all at one time > As someone

Re: VirtualBox and Windows VMs

On Tuesday, 03-12-2024 at 11:11 Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > Once upon a time I had Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 VMs running > under VirtualBox on Debian 10 or earlier. Now I need one for some > primitive, but essential program I cannot remember how I created the VMs > (Gene's disease

Re: VirtualBox and Windows VMs

On 3 Dec 2024 00:11 +, from p...@hbsys.plus.com (Peter Hillier-Brook): > Once upon a time I had Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 VMs running > under VirtualBox on Debian 10 or earlier. Now I need one for some primitive, > but essential program I cannot remember how I created the VMs (Gene's