Re: Switching to 64 bit

2013-06-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/28/2013 2:49 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: > For now I will run regular 32-bit Sid..realizing I am wasting > the opportunity to utilize more memory and perhaps faster operations. Your 32 bit PAE Sid kernel can address 64GB. Since your new machine will have less than 64GB RAM you're wasting no

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Conrad Nelson wrote: > > Welcome to GNOME 3, the desktop environment that attempts to solve a > problem that isn't there and changes things for the sake of changing > them. Perhaps you'd like MATE, which is a fork of GNOME 2. Or, abandon the desktop environment all together,

Re: trouble formatting 3TB Seagate external HDrives. need help

2013-06-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:24:33PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > What I do for every new disk before I use it is an exhaustive read/write > check with badblocks. It reads and writes every block multiple times > with various bitpatterns and random bitpatterns, and check that they can > be read c

Re: Switching to 64 bit

2013-06-28 Thread Frank McCormick
On 06/28/2013 04:13 PM, Gary Dale wrote: On 28/06/13 03:49 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: On 06/27/2013 10:56 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 6/27/2013 7:11 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I am running 32 bit Sid and am thinking about a new computer which has a 64 bit Intel CPU. How much of a hassle will i

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Greg Madden
On Friday 28 June 2013 12:08:42 you wrote: > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 07:35:24PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > .snip > > > There's nothing wrong with running an outdated Debian, > > Until the security patches stop. > > > but users still > > should take care what happens ups

Re: trouble formatting 3TB Seagate external HDrives. need help

2013-06-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 09:55:46 -0600, paul condon wrote: > I have two 3TB Seagate external HDs. They were purchased from different > stores at slightly different times earlier this year, here in Colorado. > I want them to have ext4 file systems on them, excepting if someone on > this list can give a

Re: Switching to 64 bit

2013-06-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 28 June 2013 21:58:29 Slavko wrote: > I don't know, what you have in your $HOME, but i simple copied whole my > $HOME from old i386 system - scripts was worked and data was accessible > (at least i don't remember any problems). +1 I was nervous and stuck to what worked for a bit, even o

Re: INSTALLATION OF DEBIAN IN WINDOWS XP

2013-06-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:43:21 -0400, Doug wrote: > On 06/26/2013 09:35 AM, KANDREGULA SAIAJAY wrote: >> Hello sir, >> I want to install debian O.S in my windows xp 32 bit P.C .. >> Can u give the step by step procedure for it with images(if possible) >> .. >> >> > I personally think it is much be

Re: Switching to 64 bit

2013-06-28 Thread Slavko
Dňa 28.06.2013 21:49 Frank McCormick wrote / napísal(a): > On 06/27/2013 10:56 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> On 6/27/2013 7:11 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: >>> I am running 32 bit Sid and am thinking about a new computer which >>> has a 64 bit Intel CPU. How much of a hassle will it be switching >>> m

Re: "termcap-compat" is still referenced in the Debian FAQ [SOLVED]

2013-06-28 Thread Joseph Lenox
On 06/28/2013 03:01 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2013-06-28 21:24 +0200, Joseph Lenox wrote: On 06/28/2013 11:04 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2013-06-28 17:39 +0200, Joseph Lenox wrote: Noticed that "termcap-compat" is referenced in one of the FAQ questions on the website (http://www.debian.org/

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 28 June 2013 18:06:01 Jeff Shearer wrote: > I am trying to move to the KDE desktop.� Seemed like the install went > ok.� KDM launches fine but not KDE.� So far no one has responded to my > pleas for help to get KDE up and running. I would expect KDE to still have a button on the log-in s

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 07:35:24PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: .snip > > There's nothing wrong with running an outdated Debian, Until the security patches stop. > but users still > should take care what happens upstream and contribute at least with an > opinion _before i

Re: Switching to 64 bit

2013-06-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/06/13 03:49 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: On 06/27/2013 10:56 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 6/27/2013 7:11 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I am running 32 bit Sid and am thinking about a new computer which has a 64 bit Intel CPU. How much of a hassle will it be switching my installation over ? I kn

Re: "termcap-compat" is still referenced in the Debian FAQ

2013-06-28 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-06-28 21:24 +0200, Joseph Lenox wrote: > On 06/28/2013 11:04 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: >> On 2013-06-28 17:39 +0200, Joseph Lenox wrote: >> >>> Noticed that "termcap-compat" is referenced in one of the FAQ >>> questions on the website >>> (http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/debian-

Re: Switching to 64 bit

2013-06-28 Thread Frank McCormick
On 06/27/2013 10:56 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 6/27/2013 7:11 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I am running 32 bit Sid and am thinking about a new computer which has a 64 bit Intel CPU. How much of a hassle will it be switching my installation over ? I know there are some problems with Flash but what

Re: "termcap-compat" is still referenced in the Debian FAQ

2013-06-28 Thread Joseph Lenox
On 06/28/2013 11:04 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2013-06-28 17:39 +0200, Joseph Lenox wrote: Noticed that "termcap-compat" is referenced in one of the FAQ questions on the website (http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/debian-faq.en.txt, 4.7). The package does not exist on Wheezy, nor appa

Re: Squid with https in transparent mode

2013-06-28 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 28.06.2013 19:47, schrieb Karl E. Jorgensen: > On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 01:12:38PM +0100, Chris Davies wrote: >> Frank Lanitz wrote: >>> Is there a way of using a squid proxy in transparent way [...] for SSL. >>> If I'm entering the proxy directly into >>> e.g. Firefox it's working -- but don't

Rescheduling Interrupts / Timer High Interrupts in Wheezy but not Squeeze

2013-06-28 Thread Will Platnick
I am experiencing big issues with load after upgrading my Squeeze boxes to Wheezy. I have 7 app servers, all with identical hardware with identical packages and code. I upgraded one of my boxes to wheezy with packages for PHP, Python, etc... that were compiled on wheezy. My problem is that my Wheez

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 14:07 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > On 28/06/13 01:35 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 19:02 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > >>> I will not do another upgrade. New install of a new dist for me. > > > > Upstream a long time ago does switch from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3. Many

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/06/13 01:35 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 19:02 +0200, Erwan David wrote: I will not do another upgrade. New install of a new dist for me. Upstream a long time ago does switch from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3. Many users were annoyed, but upstream wasn't interested. Not only that

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Wayne Topa
On 06/28/2013 01:02 PM, Erwan David wrote: Le 28/06/2013 19:00, Wayne Topa a écrit : On 06/28/2013 10:28 AM, John W. Foster wrote: But I do NOT like the way this last upgrade to Wheezy went at all. I have never encountered the number of issues that came with this upgrade. john +10 to that

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 19:02 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > I will not do another upgrade. New install of a new dist for me. Upstream a long time ago does switch from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3. Many users were annoyed, but upstream wasn't interested. Not only that GNOME does kill the workflow, it also e.g.

Re: Who decided we don't need update-notifier any more?

2013-06-28 Thread André Nunes Batista
This is what I'm doing: http://wiki.debian.org/Openbox But using some gtk apps nonetheless. Trying to coerce benefits of gnome. up until now I find it magnificent and fast. -- Luther Blisset GNUPG/PGP KEY: 6722CF80 I challenge you to play the game in which there is no loser but everything is

Re: Squid with https in transparent mode

2013-06-28 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 01:12:38PM +0100, Chris Davies wrote: > Frank Lanitz wrote: > > Is there a way of using a squid proxy in transparent way [...] for SSL. > > If I'm entering the proxy directly into > > e.g. Firefox it's working -- but don't got it running via transparent mode. > > As you'll

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/06/13 01:22 PM, Jeff Shearer wrote: Yeah, I tired to switch to KDE but as I have said, when I reboot I get KDM but then up comes gnome rather than KDE. You need to select KDE before logging in. Normally KDM, GDM, and the like give you the last desktop you used. You need to choose a diffe

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:06:01 -0400 "Jeff Shearer" wrote: Hello Jeff, >launches fine but not KDE.  So far no one has responded to my pleas for >help to get KDE up and running. Select it at the login screen. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Mike McGinn
On Friday, June 28, 2013 13:22:40 Jeff Shearer wrote: > Yeah, I tired to switch to KDE but as I have said, when I reboot I get KDM > but then up comes gnome rather than KDE. Have you tried right clicking on the menu and selecting a kde session? Mike > > > > Origi

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/06/13 01:06 PM, Jeff Shearer wrote: I am trying to move to the KDE desktop. Seemed like the install went ok. KDM launches fine but not KDE. So far no one has responded to my pleas for help to get KDE up and running. Hijacking a thread and top-posting! How did you install KDE? There are m

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Jeff Shearer
Yeah, I tired to switch to KDE but as I have said, when I reboot I get KDM but then up comes gnome rather than KDE. Original Message Subject: Re: what happened to the task bar?? From: "Erwan David" Date: Fri, June 28, 2013 1:02 pm

Re: Switching to 64 bit

2013-06-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/06/13 01:30 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Thu, 27 Jun 2013, Frank McCormick wrote: I am running 32 bit Sid and am thinking about a new computer which has a 64 bit Intel CPU. How much of a hassle will it be switching my installation over ? I know there are some problems with Flash but what

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Jeff Shearer
I am trying to move to the KDE desktop.� Seemed like the install went ok.� KDM launches fine but not KDE.� So far no one has responded to my pleas for help to get KDE up and running. Original Message Subject: Re: what happened to th

Re: Squid with https in transparent mode

2013-06-28 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:12:38 +0100 Chris Davies wrote: > Frank Lanitz wrote: > > Is there a way of using a squid proxy in transparent way [...] for > > SSL. If I'm entering the proxy directly into > > e.g. Firefox it's working -- but don't got it running via > > transparent mode. > > As you'll

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Wayne Topa
On 06/28/2013 10:28 AM, John W. Foster wrote: I finally got my drop down menus back by installing nautilus. But I still have no taskbar. I do NOT like the way this last upgrade to Wheezy went at all. I have never encountered the number of issues that came with this upgrade. Some folks may be ok w

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Erwan David
Le 28/06/2013 19:00, Wayne Topa a écrit : On 06/28/2013 10:28 AM, John W. Foster wrote: I finally got my drop down menus back by installing nautilus. But I still have no taskbar. I do NOT like the way this last upgrade to Wheezy went at all. I have never encountered the number of issues that cam

Re: Switching to 64 bit

2013-06-28 Thread André Nunes Batista
Friends, shall we do peace? I'm under the same 32/64 bit confusion right now. What I understand is 64 bit gives you doble word blocks and thus process a much higher degree of precision calculus at once, but then it needs just as much physical memory to keep its results and so when I ran amd64 I ob

Re: "termcap-compat" is still referenced in the Debian FAQ

2013-06-28 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-06-28 17:39 +0200, Joseph Lenox wrote: > Noticed that "termcap-compat" is referenced in one of the FAQ > questions on the website > (http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/debian-faq.en.txt, > 4.7). The package does not exist on Wheezy, nor apparently (according > to the package hist

"termcap-compat" is still referenced in the Debian FAQ

2013-06-28 Thread Joseph Lenox
Noticed that "termcap-compat" is referenced in one of the FAQ questions on the website (http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/debian-faq.en.txt, 4.7). The package does not exist on Wheezy, nor apparently (according to the package history) since 2005. I'm unsure whether to file this as a

Re: what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread Conrad Nelson
Welcome to GNOME 3, the desktop environment that attempts to solve a problem that isn't there and changes things for the sake of changing them. Perhaps you'd like MATE, which is a fork of GNOME 2. On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 09:28 -0500, John W. Foster wrote: > I finally got my drop down menus back by

what happened to the task bar??

2013-06-28 Thread John W. Foster
I finally got my drop down menus back by installing nautilus. But I still have no taskbar. I do NOT like the way this last upgrade to Wheezy went at all. I have never encountered the number of issues that came with this upgrade. Some folks may be ok with all the desktop changes, however I am not. I

Re: IP/IP and IPv6/IP tunnels and dynamic IP address

2013-06-28 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 01:16:44PM +0200, Urs Thuermann wrote: > My ISP provides a single, dynamic IPv4 address to me. I have > configured several tunnels, IPv4 in IPv4 and IPv6 in IPv4, to several > sites. This is running on a very old Linux installation and I want to > move that to a Debian sys

Re: Squid with https in transparent mode

2013-06-28 Thread Chris Davies
Frank Lanitz wrote: > Is there a way of using a squid proxy in transparent way [...] for SSL. > If I'm entering the proxy directly into > e.g. Firefox it's working -- but don't got it running via transparent mode. As you'll know, it's pretty straightforward to set up a transparent proxy for (unen

[Solved] Strange network problem with Xen 4.0 on stable

2013-06-28 Thread François TOURDE
Hi. For the archives: Le 15883ième jour après Epoch, François TOURDE écrivait: > Hi list. > > I'm using Xen (long time ago), and I've a strange problem with one of > the DomU. It's the only DomU with this behaviour. It doesn't reply to > ping and can't have access to the net. > > In detail: [..

calling in gnome active window via process number

2013-06-28 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
for example there is a GUI application XYZ having process ID 12345 and i want to bring in front of all instead of hitting alt+tab. actually i am using a remote-monitoring Java base application to monitor multiple machines in my network where i can check the real time graph via SSH. since we have m

Re: Who decided we don't need update-notifier any more?

2013-06-28 Thread Jeff Shearer
My answer to many of Gnome's upgrades was to switch to KDE, but after the install I still get Gnome.� I have tried to finde where I through the switch.� Do you know? Original Message Subject: Who decided we don't need update-notifie

Re: OpenBox + KDM session/power management.

2013-06-28 Thread Сту Деус
> $ kdmctl shutdown halt trynow > ok > $ kdmctl shutdown halt forcenow > ok > $ kdmctl shutdown status > ok local,halt,0,0,force,1001,- > > Does not halt. Alright, the trick was in exit first from openbox -- in the script: otherwise it stood scheduled. Solved. Thanks to everyone who partici

Re: Squid with https in transparent mode

2013-06-28 Thread Frank Lanitz
Am 26.06.2013 15:59, schrieb Karl E. Jorgensen: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 01:07:26PM +0100, Frank Lanitz wrote: >> Hi folsk, >> >> Is there a way of using a squid proxy in transparent way, just to put >> the traffic and forward it via another proxy to outside network(no >> caching etc) w/o doing ma

Re: Get list of restarted services during upgrade

2013-06-28 Thread Denis Witt
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:01:00 +0200 Denis Witt wrote: > At the moment I try out update-rc.d to avoid any service to be > restarted during upgrade, but I wonder if there might be a better > solution. It's policy-rc.d, of course, not update-rc. Bye. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ.

Re: OpenBox + KDM session/power management.

2013-06-28 Thread Сту Деус
> . shutting down machine > - quitting openbox (this can be done from bash) > - shutting machine (shutdown directly does not work for > privileges issue, so i want to use KDM's "blessings") $ kdmctl shutdown halt trynow ok $ kdmctl shutdown halt forcenow ok $ kdmctl shutdown status ok

Re: OpenBox + KDM session/power management.

2013-06-28 Thread Сту Деус
> I use OpenBox + KDM. How i can organize: > > . switching users > - locking current session (i can do this from shell script) > - starting new KDM session (this do not know how to do) Alright, i have fulfilled this myself. Сту. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lis

Re: Get list of restarted services during upgrade

2013-06-28 Thread Denis Witt
On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:25:34 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > What is your specific concern? Hi Bob, I'm running a Cluster that has to be set in Maintenance-Mode if monitored services are restarted. I want to do this only if needed, so I need to know which services will be restarted during upgrade/ins

OpenBox + KDM session/power management.

2013-06-28 Thread Сту Деус
Good time of the day. I use OpenBox + KDM. How i can organize: . switching users - locking current session (i can do this from shell script) - starting new KDM session (this do not know how to do) . shutting down machine - quitting openbox (this can be done from bash)

Re: Switching to 64 bit

2013-06-28 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
Am 28.06.2013 um 06:15 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: On 6/27/2013 10:12 PM, Gary Dale wrote: 32bit systems have memory limitations that you don't encounter with 64bit. There are two such limitations when using a PAE kernel and 32bit user space on x86-64, which are the same limitations on P6 class

Re: Mdadm drive fail power cord issue.

2013-06-28 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
[cut] ok as it shows and you also advice to replace the disk. i think it would be better to replace the GPT. for ease of use. and am going to create another box. Sorry but the above is hard for me to understand. Are you asking how > you can transfer users from /etc/passwd on one machine to anot