On 28/06/13 01:35 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 19:02 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
I will not do another upgrade. New install of a new dist for me.

Upstream a long time ago does switch from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3. Many users
were annoyed, but upstream wasn't interested. Not only that GNOME does
kill the workflow, it also e.g. add a hard dependency to pulseaudio.

You are much to late. Lamenting now is useless. If all would have
written to upstream a long time ago, we perhaps could have stopped those
changes.

There's nothing wrong with running an outdated Debian, but users still
should take care what happens upstream and contribute at least with an
opinion _before it's to late_!

Using another distro won't help you regarding to your GNOME issue. Most
other distros are much closer o upstream than Debian is, so they
switched from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3 a long time before Debian did.

-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: Ralf Mardorf
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: what happened to the task bar??
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 18:13:40 +0200

On Fri, 2013-06-28 at 10:36 -0500, Conrad Nelson wrote:
Welcome to GNOME 3, the desktop environment that attempts to solve a
problem that isn't there and changes things for the sake of changing
them. Perhaps you'd like MATE, which is a fork of GNOME 2.

Many of us switched to Xfce or LXDE. Xfce is a little bit closer to
GNOME 2 than LXDE is, but both are ok.


From my own limited experience with Gnome 3, I don't see what the big fuss is about. I thought it generally operated pretty much like Gnome 2 except it was missing some pieces that will probably show up eventually, as they did when KDE went from 3 to 4.

The main thing I believe is that you should install Gnome Shell to make it usable.


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