Re: Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-27 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 01:03:34AM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > I got the digest - for less than one week. You can't follow threads with > it, and it is several big emails a day, at relatively indeterminate > times, often apparently missing some of th

Re: Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-27 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 09:16:44PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > It's just begging me to get a domain name... http://www.dyndns.org/ You don't even need a static IP. > I'm pretty sure that if you switch to digest mode you'll still be able > to post. He

Re: Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-27 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:17:31PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > This is a reply to this email as received in digest mode. I use mutt > to read my mail. In mutt, I open the digest email by pressing CR, and > then open a pick-list of contents of the ema

Re: Linux Sucketh not.

2003-03-27 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:57:22PM -0500, Mr. Baldwin wrote: > Now, when I signed onto this list the only digest option I could see > was read-only...Was I mistaken? I would prefer to receive the list > in digest, if possible...Anyone? Anybody can p

Re: xpdf

2003-03-27 Thread David Fokkema
> > Obvious poking around doesn't suggest a way for gv or ghostview to do > > full-screen mode. You might be able to put something together quickly > > that embeds gs; if it were me and I cared quite enough, I'd spend an > > hour or so trying to figure out if a quick hack was possible. Good > > l

KDE/smbfs in unstable

2003-03-27 Thread Drew P. Vogel
Hello. I am running 'unstable' with KDE 3.1.1 and the smbfs packages installed. I have two shares (exported via Samba on FreeBSD) mounted. When I use a KDE application to open a file in either directory the application repeatedly receieves SIGBUS, causing the application to become unresponsive. If

Re: dhclient problem

2003-03-27 Thread David Fokkema
Hi Kevin, > If you aren't seeing the alleged DHCPACK packet even in raw "tcpdump" > output, there's not much you can do. If you have a "smart" router or > something between your ADSL modem and your computer, it may be doing > something remarkably stupid to those ACKs, but if your computer is > di

Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?

2003-03-27 Thread Craig Dickson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I understand that apt doesn't know anything about packages other than > what it't told about dependencies and conflicts. > > Let's get to the big picture -- is the doc there to support the use of > the binary, or is the binary there to support the use of the doc? The d

remote admin via network

2003-03-27 Thread Lindsay Yardley
G'day all, Now I've got a fileserver all configured and worked out the neccessary redundancy senario's, I'd like to administer it remotely. I know of webmin and someone suggested ssh in another thread any other methods i should look at. tia Lindsay --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked

RE: system slows down

2003-03-27 Thread Jeremiah C. Foster
Hey, I just installed debian 3.0, upgraded to testing, put on a custom 2.4.20 kernel, with nvidia-glx all up and running, and I am almost all set. One thing though. Every so often, things will slow to a CRAWL, and then poof, go back to normal. WHAT IS THIS? How can I stop it? Whatever clever prog

Re: Where is faq/HOWTO for changing locale?

2003-03-27 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 11:59:35AM -0800, Peter Farley wrote: > I need to change my locale from LANG=C to LANG=en_US > on debian-390 (woody-3.0r1), running under hercules > 390 emulator. Just changing the value of LANG does > not seem to do what I expect. In fact, it doesn't > seem to do much of

NFS or alternative

2003-03-27 Thread Mike M
Got Samba working today. Now I've got to get NFS or something like it working for the Linux side - where most of the work gets done. I've got a simple single site network with 7 Linux boxen. Is NFS v2 the way to go here? TIA, -- Mike M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: ASUS motherboard (SOLVED)

2003-03-27 Thread Jim McCloskey
Michael Naumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> > Thanks a lot to Mark Devin and Ralph Brown for their help. Both |> > suggested using the sis900 driver for the onboard LAN on the Asus |> > P4S533-E. |> > |> > I've tried that, and the problems persist. Loading the module sis900 |> > (with modprobe

Re: leaving computer on 24/7

2003-03-27 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 04:31:15PM -0600, Nathan E Norman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:12:14PM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: <...> > > Additional problem: "stiction" on old drives. I've got a set of SCSIs > > from 1998 which can't be shut down for more than a few minu

Re: KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian

2003-03-27 Thread Leo Spalteholz
On March 27, 2003 09:02 pm, Terry Milnes wrote: > Is it possible to use KNOPPIX as a installer for Debian? Once I > have KNOPPIX installed then add Debians stable apt repository to > add the other software that I want? > > NeoFax yes. However the stable repository will most likely have older pa

synaptic issues...

2003-03-27 Thread ZephyrQ
I've been trying to do some upgrading to testing. I installed the newest synaptic (I like the interface logic better than aptitude) but it seems to puke when I try to upgrade some things. I walked away from it for it to finish after a *long* download (5+ hours) and I came back to

[OT, DSW] Appropriate transportation

2003-03-27 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 05:05:39PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > So you're saying autos are a Bad Thing (tm)? No, I'm saying they're vastly overrated and overused. You don't need to drive to the corner store, and odds are you can probably take someone

Re: Why is my kernel broken?

2003-03-27 Thread Alvin Oga
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, JS Bangs wrote: > Hello fellow Debian fans-- > > I've been trying to listen to music on my computer, which meant I had to > install ALSA suport for my driver, which meant I had to update my kernel > from the 2.2.20 that's the default with Woody. The kernel package I'm > tr

KNOPPIX as an installer for Debian

2003-03-27 Thread Terry Milnes
Is it possible to use KNOPPIX as a installer for Debian?  Once I have KNOPPIX installed then add Debians stable apt repository to add the other software that I want?   NeoFax

Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?

2003-03-27 Thread Travis Crump
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that apt doesn't know anything about packages other than what it't told about dependencies and conflicts. Let's get to the big picture -- is the doc there to support the use of the binary, or is the binary there to support the use of the doc? If we can agree th

RE: RAID up & running

2003-03-27 Thread Lindsay Yardley
| A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL. | The file server is up & running. I've tested recovery from a | lost raid | disc & also OS. | | BUT! ... yes another question. | | Should I loose the image of my OS (which is separate from | the RAID1 set) | could I reinstall debian to hda (a non-raid disc)

Re: remount md0 after disc failure

2003-03-27 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 10:50:35PM +1100, Lindsay Yardley wrote: > G'day Pigeon, > | Don't forget to reinstall the bootloader. > That'll be tomorrows HOWTO to read ... "Lilo Bootloader HOWTO" > H, no real reason for a bootloader for this, only 1 OS to boot to, > hmmm wonder if I can boot direc

Re: RAID up & running

2003-03-27 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 10:40:44PM +1100, Lindsay Yardley wrote: > A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL. > The file server is up & running. I've tested recovery from a lost raid > disc & also OS. > > BUT! ... yes another question. > > Should I loose the image of my OS (which is separate from the RAID1 set) > c

Any plans to add the package of spambayes?

2003-03-27 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/ Anyone used it? thoughts? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: splitting/editing avi/video files

2003-03-27 Thread Shawn Lamson
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 05:16:51 +0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:54:52 +, > Klaus Imgrund wrote: > > > > > re-encoding may not work for the same reasons "copying" with > > > mencoder didnt. Plus the reason I want to do it is to > > > prevent reencoding, I mean I could ree

System Slows Down

2003-03-27 Thread DanSV
Hey, I just installed debian 3.0, upgraded to testing, put on a custom 2.4.20 kernel, with nvidia-glx all up and running, and I am almost all set. One thing though. Every so often, things will slow to a CRAWL, and then poof, go back to normal. WHAT IS THIS? How can I stop it? Whatever clever prog

Re: Debian's release support policy

2003-03-27 Thread Sharninder
> > Does Debian have an official policy regarding how long security > updates and critical bug fixes will be provided for a release (e.g. > six months, one year, etc)? > i am not too sure but i think i read this somewhere that as long as there is a current release updates will be provided for it.

Re: Newbie Help

2003-03-27 Thread Sharninder
> I recently downloaded a .deb file how to I actually install it. > The deb package was not a standard deb package and I am so new I > don't know how to setup a standard .deb file. Please help > try dpkg -i ... and later do man dpkg man apt-get Sharninder Singh National Institute Of Managemen

Why is my kernel broken?

2003-03-27 Thread JS Bangs
Hello fellow Debian fans-- I've been trying to listen to music on my computer, which meant I had to install ALSA suport for my driver, which meant I had to update my kernel from the 2.2.20 that's the default with Woody. The kernel package I'm trying to install is 2.4.16-k7, which is appropriate f

apt-get: where does the extra "1%3a" come from?

2003-03-27 Thread Abdul Latip
Hi: I am trying to put some .deb packages from the cache into the web. Somehow some extra characters are added. For example, gawk_3.1.0-3_i386.deb BECOMES gawk_1%3a3.1.0-3_i386.deb May I know what did I wrong? Is there anyway to eliminate the extra "1%3a" characters? Or, is there anyway to

Kicker

2003-03-27 Thread Francisco Castellon
I lost the Kicker panel in KDE, does anyone know how to get it back? Thanx!  

Re: I cannot unsubscribe. blah blah whine whine etc.

2003-03-27 Thread ScruLoose
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:04:58PM -0500, eauclair wrote: > help me i have over 6000 emails so far > > the administrator will not help me If you don't read the replies to your questions, you will never get help. This is obvious. Those who ask questions and then just keep whinging and moaning so

Re: killfile, anyone? - was: someone shouting expletives

2003-03-27 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:39:59AM +0100, Nicolas Kratz wrote: > Hai. I already wasted too much time on that lost case. Would that be a > good time to ask for other people's killfile configurations for mutt? Mutt has no filtering options, as do most t

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2003-03-27 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 09:10:04PM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: > People, control yourselves Please take MY message as a reminder to > ignore his. Please ?? I just emailed his abuse department for harassment. With a little luck, it'll solve itsel

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2003 #1042

2003-03-27 Thread Jeremiah C. Foster
On Thursday 27 March 2003 07:49 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 05:53:52PM -0500, Jeremiah C. Foster wrote: > > As a Red Hat user, I have found Debian to be a little odd frankly. Why is > > Woody using so much ancient software? > > Huh? I've got no idea what you are talking

Re: xpdf

2003-03-27 Thread ronin2
On 27 Mar 2003 21:22:16 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian P. Flaherty) wrote: > talk, but it is not an elegant solution. I use fvwm with a 3x3 > virtual desktop. I simply sized gv so that one of the nine views of > the virtual desktop was the slide. The menu bar, sidebar, and > scrollbars were off

unsubscribe

2003-03-27 Thread Dan Winkler
ackages, > or is it a conflict for which I should file a bug? If the latter, which > package should it be under? Neither ldap-utils nor ud have any bugs > associated with this ... Please file a bug against the ldap-utils package asking that the NAME section of its man page be corrected to de

Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?

2003-03-27 Thread ronin2
I understand that apt doesn't know anything about packages other than what it't told about dependencies and conflicts. Let's get to the big picture -- is the doc there to support the use of the binary, or is the binary there to support the use of the doc? If we can agree that the binary is primar

Re: I cannot unsubscribe. It will not let me unsubscribe. I stillreceive hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of emails and nobody reallyseems to care except me. WIll someone help me please?

2003-03-27 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-03-28T01:04:58Z, eauclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > the administrator will not help me Did. You. Read. The. Advice. You. Were. Given? -- Kirk Strauser In Googlis non est, ergo non est. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

killfile, anyone? - was: someone shouting expletives

2003-03-27 Thread Nicolas Kratz
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 09:10:04PM -0500, Hall Stevenson wrote: > * eauclair ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030327 20:47]: > > The FUCKING list administrator will NOT unsubscribe. > > People, control yourselves Please take MY message as a reminder to > ignore his. Please ?? > > Hall > Hai. I already

Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?

2003-03-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 05:57:42PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:21:34 + > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sure; not one that filing's going to particularly help, though ... > > If you're saying the maintainer will ignore it, I guess that's possible. No,

Re: I cannot unsubscribe. It will not let me unsubscribe. I still receive hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of emails and nobody really seems to care except me. WIll someone help me please?

2003-03-27 Thread nate
eauclair said: > > help me i have over 6000 emails so far > > the administrator will not help me it's not that people here don't care(some probably don't) its that people here have no control over it. We can't help you. We have no power over the debian mail servers/admins that run them nor your ma

Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails

2003-03-27 Thread ronin2
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:03:42 -0500 (EST) Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note all the packages not fully installed or removed; then, when I > proceed, here are messages referring to the package which seems to be > causing the problem: > > Preconfiguring packages ... > (Reading databa

Re: Debian's release support policy

2003-03-27 Thread nate
ow said: > Recent changes to Redhat support policy > (http://www.redhat.com/apps/support/errata/) got me somewhat concerned. > > Does Debian have an official policy regarding how long security updates > and critical bug fixes will be provided for a release (e.g. six months, > one year, etc)? not r

Re: xpdf

2003-03-27 Thread Brian P. Flaherty
David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Obvious poking around doesn't suggest a way for gv or ghostview to do > full-screen mode. You might be able to put something together quickly > that embeds gs; if it were me and I cared quite enough, I'd spend an > hour or so trying to figure out if a qu

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2003-03-27 Thread Hall Stevenson
* eauclair ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030327 20:47]: > The FUCKING list administrator will NOT unsubscribe. People, control yourselves Please take MY message as a reminder to ignore his. Please ?? Hall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

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2003-03-27 Thread eauclair
The FUCKING list administrator will NOT unsubscribe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: I cannot unsubscribe. It will not let me unsubscribe. I stillreceive hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of emails and nobody really seemsto care except me. WIll someone help me please?

2003-03-27 Thread eauclair
help me i have over 6000 emails so far the administrator will not help me - Original Message - From: "Paul Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:02 AM Subject: Re: I cannot unsubscribe. It will not let me unsubsc

Re: Newbie Help

2003-03-27 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Kris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030327 15:59 PST]: > I recently downloaded a .deb file how to I actually install it. The deb > package was not a standard deb package and I am so new I don't know how to > setup a standard .deb file. Please help As Seneca says, to manually in

Re: [OT] Sacramento broadband ???

2003-03-27 Thread Hall Stevenson
* Michael D. Schleif ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030327 19:36]: > Anybody reading this live in Sacramento, CA? > > My son is moving there from Chicago. He's hooked on good cablemodem > service from attbi. > > What is available in Sacramento? Try this site, http://www.broadbandreports.com/ (formerly ds

Debian's release support policy

2003-03-27 Thread ow
Recent changes to Redhat support policy (http://www.redhat.com/apps/support/errata/) got me somewhat concerned. Does Debian have an official policy regarding how long security updates and critical bug fixes will be provided for a release (e.g. six months, one year, etc)? Thanks __

Re: [OT] Sacramento broadband ???

2003-03-27 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Michael D. Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030327 16:32 PST]: > Anybody reading this live in Sacramento, CA? > > My son is moving there from Chicago. He's hooked on good cablemodem > service from attbi. > > What is available in Sacramento? I'd reco

Re: [OT] Sacramento broadband ???

2003-03-27 Thread donw
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 06:09:45PM -0600, Michael D. Schleif wrote: > Anybody reading this live in Sacramento, CA? > > My son is moving there from Chicago. He's hooked on good cablemodem > service from attbi. > > What is available in Sacramento? Comcast (formerly ATTBI) is available, as is both

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Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?

2003-03-27 Thread Craig Dickson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm saying there are probably several ways to resolve this, but throwing > out a binary (without an available upgrade) because the doc package for > a later release is available is not one of them. Well, the normal apt behavior when you request to install a particular p

[OT] Sacramento broadband ???

2003-03-27 Thread Michael D. Schleif
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Re: Newbie Help

2003-03-27 Thread Seneca
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 03:37:50PM -0800, Kris wrote: > I recently downloaded a .deb file how to I actually install it. The deb > package was not a standard deb package and I am so new I don't know how to > setup a standard .deb file. Please help Is "dpkg -i foo.deb" what you want? -- Seneca [

Re: Integrated Printer/FAX/Copier/Scanner machines supported by Linux???

2003-03-27 Thread Bill Wohler
Hanasaki JiJi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Integrated Printer/FAX/Copier machines supported by Linux??? > > Anyone know of one of these beasties that works with linux? Debain? > incoming / outgoing fax > scanner > printer I've been happy with the HP OfficeJet G85 with the hpoj

Re: Problems with horde/imp

2003-03-27 Thread Myke Place
The horde and IMP mailing lists are both quite active and helpful as well: http://www.horde.org/mail/ -mp * UnKnown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030327 07:47] spake thusly: > Hi: > Today i started to recive a strange message from the web mail, in a > sertein moment a user was reading his mail trou

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-27 Thread Jeff Green
I have but one comment, it isn't "easier" or "harder" with a graphical interface, it is different. For myself, I think in lists and never in pictures, I think text mode screens are great and graphical interfaces needless complications made by idiots solely to make my life difficult, however I r

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-27 Thread Nicolas Kratz
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 06:10:20PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > [Note: in case the tone came out too serious, this is actually a joke!] Rest assured, I laughed my ass off. Thanks for saving the evening. ;-) Still chuckling, Nick -- x---

Re: resizing windows

2003-03-27 Thread Nicolas Kratz
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 05:53:52PM -0500, Jeremiah C. Foster wrote: > As a Red Hat user, I have found Debian to be a little odd frankly. Why is > Woody using so much ancient software? Huh? I've got no idea what you are talking about, sorry. If you want the latest funky stuff, run sid. If you want

[FIXED] Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails

2003-03-27 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 at 4:46pm, I wrote: :I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get :update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, :bailed with the following error: : :Errors were encountered while processing: : /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-iml

Newbie Help

2003-03-27 Thread Kris
I recently downloaded a .deb file how to I actually install it. The deb package was not a standard deb package and I am so new I don't know how to setup a standard .deb file. Please help -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PRO

Re: Off Topic, But Thought I'd Ask - Shell Programming

2003-03-27 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:30:33PM -0800, Alex Togstad wrote: > Hey! > > I know this is a tad off topic, so I'll make it on topic. > > I'm doing a bunch of shell programming on my Debian box :0) And I'm > looking for any type of mailing list such as this one, but for shell > scripting purposes. p

[SOLVE]Re: Problems with horde/imp

2003-03-27 Thread UnKnown
Ok: The problem was rather simple, the sistem depends on the imap to access the mail. After checking the horde imp apache apache-ssl and posgresql, I look to the simple and restart the inetd to reinciate the daemond. And magic works out. Thx to all for the help. Cheers, ra

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-27 Thread Roberto Sanchez
And it will probably have an industry standard power supply/motherboard connector (unlike the Dell). See, e.g. http://www.upgradingandrepairingpcs.com/articles/upgrade3_01_01.asp Why I am positively aghast!!! How dare you even suggest that a major hardware (or even software) even consider someth

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-27 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Lamb wrote: > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:31:13 -0800 > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe I should stop worry about users who don't notice suggests, they > > clearly know what they're doing. :-P > > Or make a suggests/recommends which break a package a requires? All of my sugges

Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?

2003-03-27 Thread ronin2
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:31:46 -0800 Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you objecting to the idea that a doc package and a binary package > can conflict simply because the documentation is for a different > version of the program? Or are you suggesting that apt should simply > refuse to

Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails

2003-03-27 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 at 10:17pm, Colin Watson wrote: :On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:40:39AM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: :> I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get :> update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, :> bailed with the following e

Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?

2003-03-27 Thread ronin2
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:21:34 + Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure; not one that filing's going to particularly help, though ... If you're saying the maintainer will ignore it, I guess that's possible. But if the maintainer is in the habit of specifying dependencies this way, the

Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails

2003-03-27 Thread ronin2
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:40:39 -0500 (EST) Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > So, how badly hosed is my system, and what do I

Re: resizing windows

2003-03-27 Thread Jeremiah C. Foster
On Thursday 27 March 2003 04:20 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jeremiah C. Foster wrote: > > I am having trouble resizing windows in Gnome. In KDE one can put the > > cursor over the right hand border of a particular window frame and then > > resize it. This is unavaiable in Gnome as far as I can

Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails

2003-03-27 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 at 10:10pm, Jonathan Matthews wrote: :On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:40:39AM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: :> I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get :> update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, :> bailed with the follow

Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails

2003-03-27 Thread Patrick Wiseman
Apologies for the duplicate; the upgrade had turned off exim, apparently, and I tried resending before realising that was the problem, so there were two identical messages in the queue. Patrick -- Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux user #17943

Re: Difference between "woody" and "stable" in apt Default-Release?

2003-03-27 Thread Travis Crump
Uwe Storbeck wrote: What am I doing wrong? You're tring to use woody-proposed-updates which is really neither stable nor woody. If it[pulling woody-proposed-updates] works when you set Default Release to woody then my suspicion is that it wants a default release of either stable/testing/unst

Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?

2003-03-27 Thread Craig Dickson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It may resolve itself when sylpheed moves into testing, but it's still a > bug. > > Installing a doc package shouldn't cause removal of a binary package, > even if the binary package an older version. Does Debian policy say anything about this? If not, then the maintai

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 05:05:39PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Thursday 27 March 2003 07:38 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > > With over five times as many people being killed by autos in the US per > > year as died in the terrorist attacks back in '01, not to mention the > > pollution, noise, and roug

Re: "Your Sexual Partner Will Not Know Its The Same You!"

2003-03-27 Thread linux stuff
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Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?

2003-03-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 04:56:35PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:30:44 -0800 > Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > version of sylpheed itself. Unstable has a newer sylpheed that is > > compatible with sylpheed-doc, but it hasn't been moved into testing > > yet. T

Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails

2003-03-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:40:39AM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get > update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, > bailed with the following error: > > Errors were encountered while processing: > /

Re: apt-get dist-upgrade bails

2003-03-27 Thread Jonathan Matthews
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:40:39AM -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get > update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, > bailed with the following error: > > Errors were encountered while processing: > /

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 27 March 2003 07:38 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 12:38:27AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > If Henry Ford had your attitude, autos would have never been for more > > than mechanics. > > With over five times as many people being killed by autos in the US per > year as

Re: Newbee-ish X and root question

2003-03-27 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030327 01:41 PST]: > Please, please, please, don't use xhost. Really. > > Better alternatives: xauth, su -m, ssh -X And (oh yeah, duh) sudo. good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorstop.net/ -- "Computer Science is no more about co

Re: name conflict: ud / ud-ldap

2003-03-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:24:03PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: > I've just noticed that "man ud-ldap" gives the same manpage as "man ud", > which is also the name of the uptime daemon package and binary. > > The ud-ldap manpage says that it represents the binary "ud", but I know > from anoth

Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?

2003-03-27 Thread ronin2
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:30:44 -0800 Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > version of sylpheed itself. Unstable has a newer sylpheed that is > compatible with sylpheed-doc, but it hasn't been moved into testing > yet. That's what's causing your problem. > > There is no need to file a bug about

Re: Problems with horde/imp

2003-03-27 Thread UnKnown
Up to now i have regeneraate the openssl certificate, but it seam to be a diferent problem actually with the access to the horde it selfe. Dont know how to check if the database is working fine is anyone can give me a hand I would be thnkfull. Cheers, rak On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 08:23:07AM

apt-get dist-upgrade bails

2003-03-27 Thread Patrick Wiseman
I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, bailed with the following error: Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bi

apt-get dist-upgrade bails

2003-03-27 Thread Patrick Wiseman
I decided to go to 'testing', so edited my sources.list, did 'apt-get update', 'apt-get dist-upgrade' which, after installing lots of packages, bailed with the following error: Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/gdk-imlib-dev_1.9.14-6_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bi

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-27 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:10:32 -0600 Jamin Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Assuming that the "default" option was instituted, any packages without > this indication would be on even footing WRT what constitutes and > upgrade, right? It is possible then that to non-default versions of a > packag

Difference between "woody" and "stable" in apt Default-Release?

2003-03-27 Thread Uwe Storbeck
Hi, I've just seen a somewhat irritating behaviour of apt-get update/upgrade. Formerly I thought "woody" and "stable" are synonyms for now because Woody is the current stable distribution. I've set Default-Release to "stable" in apt.conf: APT { Get { Fix-Broken "true"; Show-Upgraded "t

Re: Official Exim 4 package

2003-03-27 Thread Steve Lamb
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:31:13 -0800 Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe I should stop worry about users who don't notice suggests, they > clearly know what they're doing. :-P Or make a suggests/recommends which break a package a requires? I certainly haven't run into any problems with

creating boot cds

2003-03-27 Thread adit y
Hi, Just trying to learn how to make bootable installation cds. Boot cd's downloaded from the website work fine, when i raw write partboot.img, partroot.img to a a 2 floppy disks and boot using floppies it works fine. if i burn them to cd the system boots and looks like it is asking for a second

apache segfaulting

2003-03-27 Thread Shri Shrikumar
Hi, I run a webserver for a small site and have recently found that some pages return 0 sized reply which I traced to these in the logs [Thu Mar 27 20:27:24 2003] [notice] child pid 12265 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) [Thu Mar 27 20:27:24 2003] [notice] child pid 12263 exit signal Segmentat

Re: sylpheed-doc package broken?

2003-03-27 Thread Craig Dickson
Randall Hansen wrote: > I'm trying to install the sylpheed-doc package, but it conflicts with > the slypheed package (see below). This strikes me as odd, but I don't > know enough about debs to debug it. > > I installed the doc package, copied the files, then installed Sylpheed > again (which rem

Re: IDE hard disk problem...

2003-03-27 Thread David Roundy
sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > out of curiosity, has the value for > > CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE > > changed between these two kernels? No, it's been unset in all my kernels. > also, have you tried messing around with hdparm at all (perhaps finishing > that backup first is in order:)?

Off Topic, But Thought I'd Ask - Shell Programming

2003-03-27 Thread Alex Togstad
Hey! I know this is a tad off topic, so I'll make it on topic. I'm doing a bunch of shell programming on my Debian box :0) And I'm looking for any type of mailing list such as this one, but for shell scripting purposes. I would ask my shell programming questions here, but I thought it would be o

name conflict: ud / ud-ldap

2003-03-27 Thread Jonathan Matthews
I've just noticed that "man ud-ldap" gives the same manpage as "man ud", which is also the name of the uptime daemon package and binary. The ud-ldap manpage says that it represents the binary "ud", but I know from another debian box that both root and users can execute ud to get a summary of th

Re: [OT, FLAME] Linux Sucks

2003-03-27 Thread Eric E Moore
Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 06:02:33PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: >> True. Perhaps it would have been better stated by saying that every distro >> that wants to cater to Desktop users needs to implement a GUI installer >> (and many other GUI tools). > >

Re: Convincing someone to switch to Linux

2003-03-27 Thread Martin J. Hillyer
On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 06:48:26AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: [snip] > > I can go into any local-owned computer store and they'll sell me a > machine comparable to Dell's offerings at around half the price and > they'll back thier work. $1500 is quite expensive for a single PC. > > - -- > .''`

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