far from expert on that topic.
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2020/11/msg3.html
I just asked "How can I contribute anonymously to Debian?" to the free
version of Copilot, and it did not mention anything on the above. As
you see the gap is still very large.
Have
has some relevance, before we try to progress further.
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divide they are about to
support if the current OSI draft is accepted?
https://opensource.org/ai/endorsements
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hat freedom is deeply
connected to everybodys futures.
Well, it is too late for invoking Santa Claus, but this said, best
wishes for 2024 !
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Le Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 07:46:51PM -0500, G. Branden Robinson a écrit :
>
> "Debian is not X, it's an operating system" is an old trope
Well, X is only one month old, and Debian is 30 years old, so the
comparison is not fair. This said, X contains many more fortunes than
Debian, and for many mor
dataset and
the result of the training process to be open source if a work under that
license is present in the training data? Would GPLv3 be sufficient?
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f opinion texts that I think are important and upload
it to NEW because I believe it is cheap for Debian to distributes it, I
bet the answer will be something "please distribute it yourself until it
demonstrates relevance beyond your own circles".
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course the development
or maintenance of our infrastructures, that cost will drop. If it is
easy for those who need to get archive-wide priviledges, it is also easy
to start without that priviledge as a default.
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be restricted to the
packages that me and my packaging team maintain. I am very unlikely to
need archive-wide privileges in the near future.
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Hi Didier,
An interesting side effect of your proposal is that Debian's security
will be higer as uploading permissions will not be broad by default.
And I think that a lightweight processe can be designed to allow DDs to
expand their permissions.
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vironmental footprint of individual or
societies.
If the answer is no, I would recommend to pick a name that clearly hints
to the preferred topic.
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they hardly count.
>
> Ubuntu on the other hand is WTF-level unstable.
Hi all,
I would like to pay tribute to Arch Linux in this thread.
When I have a problem, its solution is most often in the Arch wiki.
Hats off, Arch !
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r size or passing -O3 to the scientific
software we package has any chance to make a visible impact on how we
can reduce the environmental cost of our research.
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Hi all,
Maybe we can all cool down and focus on the take home message:
"packages.debian.org misleads users about which version of major
browsers are available in Stable"
On my side, I had the exact same problem with Firefox ESR.
So if there is somebody who is familiar with the code running behi
w about we make that a feature and introduce a delay of a couple of
hours between all messages in threads like this one ?
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late if they do not have a big name.
I already wrote it too much, but I want to reiterate my call to refrain
to post more than once a day in our main mailing lists.
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ive.
I just added you to the dep-team/deps project on Salsa. Please open
issues if you have technical problems while adding DEP17.
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age to get the "+" to work).
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, so feel free to
take plenty of time before answering.
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and I think that we also should learn that there is nothing wrong
in receiving such advice, even in public like here.
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s the cons of mailing lists, which
are why we are intrested in testing Discourse.
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r. If
mutt would learn to color them in green, that would be enough for me.
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nd those who summarise them.
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limit their capacity to induce heated ping-pong discussions in which
upset people write things that they regret later because it irreversibly
hurt others.
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(The idea of random delays is taken from the R posting guide
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ave
everybody's time there.
Have a nice day,
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PS: we are all on holidays, how about waiting 1 day before answering ?
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ng you rightly say about how hard it is to understand how other
suffer if we do not suffer it ourselves, can be written as effectively
without categorizing others as "priviledged".
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in charge of. Same as a
technical committee needs to be technically competent or an accounting
team has to be good with handling money, a community team has to behave.
Otherwise, we are easy targets for trolls.
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maximum one mail a day" self-policy ?
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Tooting from home,
team members are split in a way that it is hard to
resolve.
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is great,
Have a nice day, and thanks for your work on the reboot of the team !
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> On 10/5/19 1:10 AM, Charles Plessy wrote:
> >
> > I make this comment as the person who some years ago took the initiative
> > to take over the "Debian" Github group, that was more or less abandonned
> > and apparently not controlled by somebody related
perience that I do not feel to reproduce...
In other contexts, this could be called environmental harassment. No
matter if the pressure comes from different people at each time, what
is sure is that working on certain areas is going to be emotionally
expensive.
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to bug-squashing parties, for instance.
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it is only a reminder. But in any case
please have a look at https://wiki.debian.org/debian/upstream and
https://wiki.debian.org/AppStream for details.
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ly to make everybody feel safe and proud,
without putting other developers in a catch-all category that they did
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"when tempted to block somebody elses contribution, do not trust
your common sense and seek the opinion of other people in charge before
taking action".
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Norbert, Enrico, Joerg and Jonathan,
many thanks for all your patience, efforts, and dedication,
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shing private emails on the Debian lists is highly
inappropriate. Thanks for your apologies, but please bear in mind that
this is not just about noise. Please do not do that again, with any
sender.
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harles
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 05:35:38PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> But concerning the demotion to Debian Maintainer (DM) status, I think
> that it is sending a wrong message to the community, that DMs do not
> need to hold the same standards of behaviour as Debian Developers
> (
he post that you find most ambiguous, state your concerns
and ask for a clarification ? You would not need to follow up as people
can then judge the facts by themselves after reading the clarification
(or seeing its absence).
Have a nice day,
Charles
PS: thank you nevertheless for expres
Le Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 06:54:25PM +0100, Enrico Zini a écrit :
> On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 05:39:58PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>
> > 4. Avoid posting personal fights or insults. Planet Debian is not an
> > appropriate medium for this.
>
> If I'm still on time, I'd suggest: "personal fights,
Le Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 04:23:02PM +, Matthew Vernon a écrit :
>
> There have a few posts in recent discussions by people suggesting (or, at
> least, appearing to suggest) that there is a conflict between technical
> excellence and our Code of Conduct (or aiming to increase the diversity of
>
Le Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 05:35:38PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
>
> Whether DD -> DM demotions will happen again and are going to become a
> new tool for solving social conflicts is an important decision that
> needs an open discussion where conesnsus is being sought.
Unsurpris
formally, it becomes an inferior
status.
Whether DD -> DM demotions will happen again and are going to become a
new tool for solving social conflicts is an important decision that
needs an open discussion where conesnsus is being sought.
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Le Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 08:09:00PM +, Sotirios Vrachas a écrit :
> > - https://wiki.debian.org/GnuPG/StubKe
> This page does not exist.
>
Sorry, it was <https://wiki.debian.org/GnuPG/StubKeys>.
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them, etc.
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e
services and that we need them to provide freedoms equivalent to what we
guarantee with DFSG. The current discussion just scratches the surface...
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han an official news
release (after all, we will call for updates soon with the next Stable
release). So... feel free to blog on the topic :)
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consequences
on the project are being taken.
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in the future. In return, I think that it would fair if the
anti-harassment team would also acknowledge that you are not a harrasser, to
cleary any possible misunderstanding if a third party stumbles in the archives
of this discussion at some point in the future.
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am really sorry but I do not have enough time. But if ask.debian.net is
repaired, I would try to visit it more often.
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en't read my slides [3] on the roadmap, please have a
> look before reading what follows.
Hi Mehdi,
sorry, but in [3] I could not find slides; only a 45-min video. Can you
upload your slides somewhere ?
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Le Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 03:00:22PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
>
> Dear TC, you have my support, and please feel empowered to require high
> standards from the confronting parties that ask for your decisions, so that
> your task is made easier, for everybody' good.
>
solution to a problem by yourselves, that would leave
on your shoulders the pressure for implementation when noboy else volunteers
for it. Just unblocking a frozen situation is already great !
Altogether, thanks a lot for your work !
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Le Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 01:10:02AM +0200, Debian Project Secretary - Kurt
Roeckx a écrit :
>
> This is the second call for votes.
>
> Voting period starts 2016-10-09 00:00:00 UTC
> Votes must be received by 2016-10-22 23:59:59 UTC
>
> The following ballot is for voting on declass
finition we stand united on what Free means for our
project.
So on my side I would welcome putting "freedom" somewhere under the Debian logo.
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iggers or other kinds of hooks could check
that packages installed directly without Apt would not change the trust keys
without the user being aware of this.
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ftware using CMake, there are also CPackDeb and CPackRPM.
https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/module/CPackDeb.html
Were I an upstream developer, I would definitely be interested by tools like
this that leverage the build system to build installation packages for various
platforms.
Have a nice week
467894193
X-URL:
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The reason why I refrained from reporting these bugs further is that I have do
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Le Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 06:55:16PM +0100, Svante Signell a écrit :
> Unfortunately it is mandatory, not only the default :(
> New installs: yes, upgrades: probably, we'll know December 4. Odds for a
> non-systemd upgrade are low :( Maybe join devuan instead?
Svante,
your email is off-topic on thi
Hi Russ,
many thanks for the amazing work you did in the TC. You definitely deserve
being relieved from that pressure and having a good relaxing time after
enduring that storm.
After your break, if you are not fed up with activities which tend to attract
long discussions, I am looking forward wo
that, after devastating the signal-noise ratio on
debian-devel and debian-project, some supporters of a init GR regret that they
missed the information, which whas cross-posted on this list.
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ch a list in 10 years containing
random people who happened to have misbehaved some time ago, of whom we had no
news since, but whose names we remember forever. I think that forgetting would
make things easier for everybody after a while.
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the FTP team's views on the debian/copyright file.
But the best is that you ask for a first-hand recommendation from the FTP
team. If you get an answer, you are welcome to forward it to #462996 or
open a new bug so that we can reflect it in the Policy.
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not take a Debian CD, add non-free
software, and sell it as “Debian Enhanced”. We and other protect our names,
and PHP does it too. I do not see a problem.
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or make it hard to move the discussion to the public mailing lists where they
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g: white occidental males.
In that sense, debian-private is not much useful to our Project.
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Hello everybody,
I do not think that it is possible to solve all the points of misunderstanding
in a long thread of long emails.
Personally, I am totally confused by what I read, and do not understand what is
even the basic stand point of each participant. May I suggest that you talk
directly fa
Le Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 02:54:51PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
> Le Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 07:33:41PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas a écrit :
> >
> > assuming the content is entirely static, we could move dep.debian.net to
> > dillon.debian.org.
> >
> > Would that
-rpm/>),
and I am not aware of similar mechanisms elsewhere.
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n top of
making decisions, the Editors are also expected to do some more trivial work
regarding formatting documents and commiting changes, therefore I think that
these paragraphs, which do not restrict how decisions are taken, are useful.
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ions become paralysing.
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ould make sense for the
Policy editors to relax the current process.
If I still have time next year and the situation does not improve, I can
volunteer for the task. (For the moment I need to care of the big backlogs at
all my other projects in Debian).
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Le Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 07:33:41PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas a écrit :
> On Fri Dec 27, 2013 at 02:03:38 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> >
> > Since Alioth is not intended for hosting, I am also considering migrating
> > the
> > site, which is running Ikiwiki, to an
Le Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 06:22:34PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
>
> Yesterday I just realised that http://dep.debian.net now serves
> an outdated version that ends with DEP 9. This is likely caused
> by the merger between vasks and wagner. I am investigating the
> issue and wi
Dear all,
Yesterday I just realised that http://dep.debian.net now serves
an outdated version that ends with DEP 9. This is likely caused
by the merger between vasks and wagner. I am investigating the
issue and will let you know when it will be repaired.
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PL to be actively questionning memberships each time the
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omplains in
private instead of adding to the noise in public.
Altogether, I think that the preference is quite correlated to the time one can
dedicate reading public mailing lists, so I beg that the time-rich contributors
make efforts for the time-poor contributors.
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trademark
does not play a role. We have much of the infrastructure there, but the bulk
of the (enormous) work is communication and teaching people to stop relying on
our trademark, and rely on signatures instead.
(One could even consider asking for a .deb or a .debian TLD ?)
Have a nice we
ss
is not surprising" -> "no it is" -> "no it isn't, go figure yourself" -> "you
are contradicting yourself" -> "what do you mean ?" -> "please stop off-topic
discussion" (which thankfully was listened). Altogether, I
Le Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 07:58:03AM +, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 09:00:20AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> >
> > Given how arbitrarly other bans have been proposed, I think that the
> > outcome should stay private unless the banned person wi
Le Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:54:02AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
>
> I have just uploaded the Debian Policy 3.9.5.0.
Dear all,
this upload represent one year of work, and it was a very interesting
experience, where I leaned a lot about the Debian packaging system.
Unfortunate
> On Sun, 27 Oct 2013, Charles Plessy wrote:
>
> > In parallel, I think that we need some technical or social pressure for
> > limiting to 1 or 2 messages a day each individual contribution to long
> > threads.
Le Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 07:35:56AM +0100, Alexander Wi
hreads.
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Le Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 04:18:22PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte a écrit :
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:46:38PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> >
> > I found #675435 where it was written that CC-BY-SA-2.0 was not suitable
> > for Debian, and now I am confused.
> >
>
now what is going on the list in real time.
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think that the best person to work on the declassification would be the
posters theselves, proactively by ensuring that what they send is declassifiable
by default three years later.
For the public summary, maybe it was not a good idea after all.
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etter name to suggest. (note also that there are other
point of views on how to best name a program).
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useful if the goal is to gather the information in control
files of the Debian archive (see DEP 11 for something a bit similar:
http://wiki.debian.org/AppStreamDebianProposal). But I think that this is
not
desirable, as it opens the risk of having conflicting settings when using
third
Le Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 12:25:26AM -0400, Joey Hess a écrit :
> Charles Plessy wrote:
> > In the case of Debian, I share with others the concern of having the
> > packages
> > as a source of revenue
>
> How about making fixed bugs a source of revenue?
I do not
the URL to our upstream guide
(http://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamGuide), so that the packaging work (and
therefore the need for support) is reduced thanks to Upstream standardising his
work.
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Tsu
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 07:08:17PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > - I think that we shoud encourage more private replies. For instance,
> >"If you want to complain to someone who sent you a carbon copy when
> >you did not ask for it, do it privately" (
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