Processed: Re: Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reopen 704238 Bug #704238 {Done: Didier Raboud } [cups-client] Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option Bug #711192 {Done: Didier Raboud } [cups-client] cups-client: clients (lpstat, lpq...) no longer work via http 'reopen' m

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-24 Thread Guido Günther
reopen 704238 thanks Hi, On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 05:44:52PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > forwarded 704238 rdar://problem/14216262 > # That's Apple closed internal bug tracker > thanks > > > Filed as the following bug in Apple's bug tracker: > > > > cups.org: Missing documentation fo

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-23 Thread Daniel Richard G.
On Sat, 2013 Jun 22 4:31+0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > At my lab, the admins tell us the hostname of the print server, and > sometimes the print names, that's all. Considering that "/version=1.1" is not supported on older CUPS clients, admins [who know about the directive] could well be disincl

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-21 Thread Daniel Richard G.
On Fri, 2013 Jun 21 15:44-0400, Michael Sweet wrote: > > My experience with large sites has been the opposite - most places > I've worked with have departmental print servers with manually-added > queues (either raw queues or the OS X-style local queue/PPD forwarding > to the server). They typical

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-06-21 15:44:07 -0400, Michael Sweet wrote: > Presumably the admins telling them (or configuring their system) to > use the server will instruct them accordingly. Or perhaps run server > software newer than 4 years old? At my lab, the admins tell us the hostname of the print server, and som

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-21 Thread Michael Sweet
Daniel, On 2013-06-21, at 2:20 PM, "Daniel Richard G." wrote: > On Fri, 2013 Jun 21 9:29-0400, Michael Sweet wrote: >> >> Well, before we go off and spend extra engineering time on this, how >> widespread is the use of client.conf in the Linux world? On OS X it >> was pretty-much non-existent (l

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-21 Thread Daniel Richard G.
On Fri, 2013 Jun 21 9:29-0400, Michael Sweet wrote: > > Well, before we go off and spend extra engineering time on this, how > widespread is the use of client.conf in the Linux world? On OS X it > was pretty-much non-existent (less than 1% of users, based on bug > reports) and since 10.8 *is* non-

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-21 Thread Michael Sweet
Daniel, On 2013-06-20, at 11:38 PM, Daniel Richard G. wrote: > ... > Now that it is possible to configure a new client to talk with an old > server, and that the means of doing so is documented (in Debian > currently, and upstream soon), we need this problem to be diagnose-able. Well, before we

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-20 Thread Daniel Richard G.
On Thu, 2013 Jun 20 11:39-0400, Michael Sweet wrote: > > In both cases the server is returning a "bad request" error instead of > "version not supported". We could (and probably should) change lpq to > report the real error, but that will just yield: > > lpq: Bad Request > > And since "Bad Req

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-20 Thread Michael Sweet
Vincent, On 2013-06-20, at 11:05 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2013-06-20 10:46:00 -0400, Michael Sweet wrote: >> Given that this is only a problem for users depending on the >> ServerName directive in client.conf, it seemed much more practical >> (and reliable) to have the user/administrator s

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-20 Thread Michael Sweet
Vincent, On 2013-06-06, at 7:15 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >> ... >> Opinions ? > > Agreed, though detecting the IPP version would be much better > (isn't the negotiation part of the protocol?). Not really. There is some support for detecting supported versions and reporting when a version i

Processed: Re: Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-20 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > forwarded 704238 rdar://problem/14216262 Bug #704238 {Done: Didier Raboud } [cups-client] Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option Bug #711192 {Done: Didier Raboud } [cups-client] cups-client: clients (lpstat, lpq...) no long

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-20 Thread Michael Sweet
Didier, On 2013-06-06, at 2:59 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: >> ... >>ServerName cups.example.com/version=1.1 > > Indeed. That's confirmed to address Vincent's issue. Although it's kinda > surprising that it's impossible to detect that at runtime, but that's an > upstream decision… It i

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-20 Thread Michael Sweet
Vincent, On 2013-06-20, at 10:55 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >> ... >> We *did* try tracking the supported IPP version in the first version >> of the patch for this issue, but it didn't work reliably. Forcing >> the issue in client.conf seemed the safest approach. > > OK. So, the protocol doesn't

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-20 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-06-20 10:46:00 -0400, Michael Sweet wrote: > Given that this is only a problem for users depending on the > ServerName directive in client.conf, it seemed much more practical > (and reliable) to have the user/administrator specify any version > limitations there. The initial problem is tha

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-20 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-06-20 10:41:56 -0400, Michael Sweet wrote: > On 2013-06-06, at 2:59 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > >> ... > >>ServerName cups.example.com/version=1.1 > > > > Indeed. That's confirmed to address Vincent's issue. Although it's kinda > > surprising that it's impossible to detect that

Bug#704238: Bug#711192: Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-06 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Control: tags -1 +pending Hi all, I have pushed the proposed patch with Brian and Vincent's fixes, thank you! It'll be part of the next upload. Commit: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg- cups/cups.git;a=commit;h=123306535e3fade1a0f26699b72dde18437a4d6e Upstream patch: http://anonscm.debia

Processed: Re: Bug#711192: Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > tags -1 +pending Bug #704238 [cups-client] Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option Bug #711192 [cups-client] cups-client: clients (lpstat, lpq...) no longer work via http Added tag(s) pending. Added tag(s) pending. -- 704238: http://bugs.debi

Bug#704238: Bug#711192: Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-06 Thread Brian Potkin
On Thu 06 Jun 2013 at 08:59:19 +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Several minor points: > +The default IPP version is 2.0 but can be overriden by adding a slash > followed by /version= and the desired IPP version (can be 1.0 or > 1.1). Is '. . by adding a slash followed . . . ' needed if cont

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-06-06 08:59:19 +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Vincent: I'm hereby merging both 704238 and 711192 as the latter is > and occurence of the first. Also, thanks for testing the four > possibilities, it confirms Daniel's documentation below. I've also tested that the following worked: Se

Processed: Re: Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > forcemerge 704238 711192 Bug #704238 [cups-client] Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option Bug #711192 [cups-client] cups-client: clients (lpstat, lpq...) no longer work via http Severity set to 'normal' from 'grave' Marked

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-06-06 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
forcemerge 704238 711192 severity 704238 important tags 704238 +patch -moreinfo thanks Hi Daniel, and thanks for your bugreport, Vincent: I'm hereby merging both 704238 and 711192 as the latter is and occurence of the first. Also, thanks for testing the four possibilities, it confirms Daniel's

Bug#704238: Need to document the CUPS client's new server-version option

2013-03-29 Thread Daniel Richard G.
Package: cups-client Version: 1.6.2-3 The CUPS client recently gained new configuration logic to allow the IPP version of a CUPS server to be specified, whether on the command line (-h option), in the CUPS_SERVER environment variable, or in the /etc/cups/client.conf config file. Some examples of t