Re: CPU requirements for powerpc

2016-10-09 Thread Rick Thomas
: > Rick Thomas wrote... > >> Can you give us some more details? > > In general I'm somewhat reluctant since first conclusions are usually > wrong and I certainly don't want to create noise at the wrong place. > So I'd rather debug a little longer until I can

Re: Release Architectures for Debian 9 'Stretch'

2016-10-31 Thread Rick Thomas
Will there be an LTS (long-term-support) release for powerpc — best would be one based on Jessie? On Oct 31, 2016, at 6:42 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Anyone has a summary of the powerpc specific discussion ? > > > -- Forwarded message -- > [...] > The only change from Je

Re: how to write a pipe "|" ?

2016-11-01 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 1, 2016, at 10:09 AM, Klaus Becker wrote: > Hi, > > all is in the title. > > I could not find neither on the ibook G4 keybord nor on the web. > > bye > > Klaus > A quick web search returned http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/15323/where-can-i-find-a-map-of-my-mbp-french-k

Re: how to write a pipe "|" ?

2016-11-01 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:58 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Nov 1, 2016, at 10:09 AM, Klaus Becker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> all is in the title. >> >> I could not find neither on the ibook G4 keybord nor on the web. >> >> bye >> &

Re: [Debian-ports-devel] Moving powerpc to Debian Ports

2016-11-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 2, 2016, at 8:03 AM, Herminio Hernandez Jr. wrote: > I would like to know after Stretch will we be able to submit bugs to BTS or > are we basically on our own. > >> On Nov 2, 2016, at 4:43 AM, Gatis Visnevskis wrote: >> >> I would like to have knowledge shared, how to still run Deb

Re: Release Architectures for Debian 9 'Stretch'

2016-11-03 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 3, 2016, at 11:17 PM, Christoph Biedl wrote: > Herminio Hernandez, Jr. wrote... > >> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> >>> Will there be an LTS (long-term-support) release for powerpc — best would >>> be one based on Jessie? &g

What is the equivalent of the "/sbin/autoboot" command from for ppc64 Macintosh

2017-02-23 Thread Rick Thomas
On powerpc (32-bit) machines, the Debian powerpc-utils package provides the /sbin/autoboot command, which sets the machine’s pmu (power management unit?) chip to automatically reboot it after a power failure. For 64-bit machines, such as the PowerMac G5, Apple replaced the pmu by the smu (syst

Re: debian-installer now available in Ports

2017-04-19 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Apr 14, 2017, at 8:58 AM, Riccardo Mottola > wrote: > > Hi, > > Mathieu Malaterre wrote: >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-grub/2015-03/msg00072.html >> >> NewWorld are supposed to work. So the question is: does anyone still >> has an OldWorld ? > > I have a couple, although I

Re: Fail to install stretch to iMac G5

2017-07-11 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Adrian! If there’s anything I, as a tester (I don’t have developer skills) can do to help with this effort, please let me know. I have access to a couple of G5 PowerMac machines and can get access to an iMac G5 if it will help. Rick On Jun 17, 2017, at 3:02 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

Re: Updated installer images

2017-09-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:32 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hi! > > I have generated an updated set of debian-installer images for > Debian Ports which also now includes alpha [1]. > > I have fixed the installation issues on hppa and sparc64, in > both cases the bootloader installer was mi

Re: Updated installer images

2017-09-21 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Adrian, Let me add my own “Thanks!” for your work on this. I’ll be happy to test Grub on my PowerMac7,3 G5 machine, but I’ll need instructions for doing so. I’ve always just used yaboot, but Grub would be a nice addition… Thanks! Rick On Sep 20, 2017, at 11:55 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubi

Re: Updated installer images

2017-09-21 Thread Rick Thomas
When installing the Ports NETINST CD on my PowerMac G5, it asks me to type manually the host name for the Debian repository. What should I use here? Thanks! Rick

Re: Updated installer images

2017-09-22 Thread Rick Thomas
Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 09/22/2017 04:45 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> When installing the Ports NETINST CD on my PowerMac G5, it asks me to type >> manually the host name for the Debian repository. What should I use here? > > Server: http://ftp.ports.debian.org >

Re: Updated installer images

2017-09-22 Thread Rick Thomas
Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 09/22/2017 12:41 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> Is that information (how to access the “ports” repos) available somewhere? >> Is there a wiki that describes all this? > > No, but I will eventually update the choose-mirror package to show > the Debian P

Re: New ppc64 installer image available -- installation test report

2017-09-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 25, 2017, at 1:26 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> I used an earlier CD which went into rescue mode OK. > > Hmm. Ok. Do you know when this CD was generated? Sure… The one that worked was the previous CD from you. Rick

Re: New ppc64 installer image available -- installation test report

2017-09-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 25, 2017, at 1:02 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 09/25/2017 10:26 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>> However the partitioning scheme used by “guided — use whole disk" doesn't >>> produce an HFS+ "bootstrap" partition or an ext2 "/boot" partition. >>> I created the two m

Re: New ppc64 installer image available -- installation test report

2017-09-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 26, 2017, at 12:07 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 09/26/2017 07:45 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > >> One other oddity I noticed was that the HFS partition was not labeled >> “bootstrap” as it has always been in the past. >> The name does not appear to be n

New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

2017-09-26 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:20 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > >>> In this context, I just found this commit [2] which added the /boot >>> partition. Note the >>> additional "$defaultignore{}" designation which apparently means the >>> partition is not >>> created in all cases. >> In lig

New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep yaboot happy.

2017-09-26 Thread Rick Thomas
Reposting to correct typo in Subject line. (@#$% spelling correctors!) > On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:48 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > >> On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:20 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz >> wrote: >> >>>> In this context, I just found this commit [2] whic

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

2017-09-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 26, 2017, at 11:40 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > So, do we all agree that the first thing is to increase the size of the > bootloader partitions for the aforementioned systems? That would certainly seem to be an easy and non-controversial first step. Let’s do it. Thanks! Rick

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

2017-09-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:53 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> Until we get grub working, would it be possible to temporarily remove the >> "$defaultignore{}”, just as a convenience to keep yaboot happy? > > Well, then we should also remove this workaround [1]. I quite agree. Disabling new

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

2017-09-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:47 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 09/26/2017 03:00 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> I'm still a bit undecided about the ext4 issue with Yaboot. I actually >> would tend to always use the ext2 /boot partitions for all installations >> and revert the work-a

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

2017-09-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:53 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 09/26/2017 11:48 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> There is precedent for always having an ext2 /boot partition. Any arm system >> that uses u-boot needs the filesystem it reads from the be either ext2 or >> fat

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

2017-09-27 Thread Rick Thomas
Disk space (at least at the megabyte level) is cheap. Go with 10MB — it’s cheap insurance for the future. my $0.02 worth... Rick > On Sep 27, 2017, at 7:46 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > Any suggestions for the new size? 8 MiB? 10 MiB?

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

2017-09-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 29, 2017, at 5:24 AM, Milan Kupcevic wrote: > On 09/29/2017 03:16 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> >> Yaboot itself is a lost cause in my opinion. Users have to resort to >> workarounds >> and upstream is factually dead and it's therefore probably just a matter of >> time until t

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

2017-09-29 Thread Rick Thomas
It’s comforting that “remove yaboot” only means remove it from unstable. I did not understand that point. Thanks for explaining. I’ll be glad to test anything you can produce on my G4 desk side machines (a couple of models you did not list as being in your own stable) as well as the PowerMac G

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

2017-10-01 Thread Rick Thomas
Adrian and Milan, Thank you for the explanations. It’s much clearer to me now! I did a couple of experiments today. 1) I did a test installation with manual partitioning using the 20170927 installer (Debian GNU/Linux 9.0 _Sid_ - Unofficial ppc64 NETINST 20170925-19:46). I created a 10MB boot

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

2017-10-01 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 1, 2017, at 3:47 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote: > "8 MB/MiB ought to be enough for anybody", don't you agree? ;-) I’d have no problem with that. Rick

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

2017-10-06 Thread Rick Thomas
>> On Oct 1, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> >> Adrian and Milan, >> >> Thank you for the explanations. It’s much clearer to me now! >> >> I did a couple of experiments today. … >> 2) I did an installation with Adrian’

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep yaboot happy.

2017-10-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 6, 2017, at 2:17 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 10/06/2017 11:06 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On 10/06/2017 10:56 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: >>> I tried the latest: "Debian GNU/Linux 9.0 "Sid" - Unofficial ppc64 NETINST >>>

Re: powerpc (32-bit) Debian installer media

2017-10-06 Thread Rick Thomas
> > Am 06.10.2017 um 11:40 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: >> On 10/06/2017 11:17 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>> Ah, the problem is most likely the debian/isinstallable script in >>> grub-installer [1]. It's >>> already checking for the existence of the /boot/grub HFS partition when

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep yaboot happy.

2017-10-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 6, 2017, at 3:08 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I'm not sure what makes you think that the mechanism to format HFS filesystems > is inherently part of Yaboot but that's definitely not the case. Yaboot's > installer > script itself doesn't create the HFS filesystem, it relies on

Re: PowerPC sid installation

2017-10-06 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Richard, Don’t be confused by the name NETINST. It means that, in order to keep the .iso image as small as possible, the installer is prepared to get most of its Debian packages from the repository mirrors on the network. You still do it the normal way — burn the .iso image to a CD and boot

Re: PowerPC sid installation

2017-10-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 6, 2017, at 12:02 PM, Richard Kuenz wrote: > Dear Rick, > > thank you , but i cannot help myself thinking that booting from CD or NETINST > is more diffiult than from DVD; > i had multiple times installed on G5 mac or g4 powerbook from a DVD alongside > a Mac OS installation with no pr

Re: PowerPC sid installation

2017-10-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 6, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Richard Kuenz wrote: > Also, when installing Squeeze, > it seems that the Package Archive is not accessible. > > Following this page here > > https://www.debian.org/distrib/archive > > > it should be able during installation to add manually a Server for > downlo

Re: PowerPC sid installation -- correct typo

2017-10-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 6, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > 1) You have a G4 powerbook currently running MacOS-X Tiger. > > 2) You want it to dual boot Lion and Debian. > > 3) You don’t care too much which version of Debian, as long as it works and > you can also boot t

Re: PowerPC sid installation

2017-10-07 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 7, 2017, at 2:03 AM, richard.kuenz wrote: > I am getting this error now with squeeze after yesterday installation > succeeded after some hiccups . . . > <20171007_110203_resized.jpg> When you installed, did you create an ext2 partition for /boot? If I’m understanding the error me

Re: PowerPC sid installation

2017-10-07 Thread Rick Thomas
> > > > Von Samsung-Tablet gesendet > > > Ursprüngliche Nachricht > Von: Rick Thomas > Datum: 07.10.2017 11:38 (GMT+01:00) > An: "richard.kuenz" > Cc: Frank Scheiner , PowerPC List Debian > > Betreff: Re: PowerPC sid installation

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

2017-10-07 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 6, 2017, at 2:40 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 10/06/2017 11:17 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> Ah, the problem is most likely the debian/isinstallable script in >> grub-installer [1]. It's >> already checking for the existence of the /boot/grub HFS partition when th

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep sabot happy.

2017-10-07 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 7, 2017, at 3:16 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > I haven't found the time yet to build it, sorry. No rush… Let me know when it’s available, that’s all. Enjoy! Rick

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep yaboot happy.

2017-10-08 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 8, 2017, at 9:30 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> > > grub-installer doesn't have any mechanism yet to find the boot partition on > NewWorld Macs. We need to implement that. On supported systems, grub-installer > will prompt with a list of possible target devices. The device nam

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep yaboot happy.

2017-10-08 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 8, 2017, at 2:34 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Either way, please try to perform some trial-and-error testing and let me know > whether you can find a working mechanism for the steps above. Will do! Rick

Re: PowerPC sid installation

2017-10-12 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:06 AM, Richard Kuenz wrote: > > Thank you ver much Rick, > > this helped me alot installing SID onto Powermac G4. You’re welcome. Glad I could help! Rick

Re: PowerPC sid installation

2017-10-12 Thread Rick Thomas
t rid "cleared" of Iceape and > therefore at the moment Wheezy / Jessie seems better for browsing especially > if one likes to consume occasioally yYoutube content or so ,albeit slow. > > > Am 12.10.17 um 10:33 schrieb Rick Thomas: >>> On Oct 12, 2017, at 1:06 AM, Ri

Re: PowerPC sid installation

2017-10-12 Thread Rick Thomas
A helpful website for finding out specs for old Macs is http://www.everymac.com — They have, among other things, specs for maximum possible RAM upgrades for every model of Mac that Apple ever sold — and suggestions for where to buy the upgrades you need. Rick

Re: PowerPC sid installation

2017-10-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 12, 2017, at 4:17 AM, Richard Kuenz wrote: > On the Powermac G5 Wheezy runs exceptionally well, quick , stable , only the > fans are really loud - and i have not found way yet to circumvent this. Try this, as root: echo ‘i2c-powermac' > /etc/modules-load.d/local.conf Then reboot Rick

Re: debian-9.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso results in "unknown or corrupt filesystem"

2017-10-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:16 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > Everything went along fine until reboot wherein I see an unknown or corrupt > filesystem message : Try installing with “use entire disk and set up LVM” (or words to that effect) at partitioning time. That will cause it to set up a small ext

Re: PowerPC sid installation

2017-10-17 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi richard, > Gesendet: Freitag, 13. Oktober 2017 um 09:55 Uhr > Von: "Rick Thomas" > An: "Richard Kuenz" > Cc: "PowerPC List Debian" > Betreff: Re: PowerPC sid installation > > On Oct 12, 2017, at 4:17 AM, Richard Kuenz wrote: > > &

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep yaboot happy.

2017-10-31 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 31, 2017, at 12:41 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote: > Hi Rick, > > On 10/31/2017 02:46 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> I downloaded and burned the below image. Then I did an install on my >> PowerMac7,3 G5 dual processor. >> When it came time to partition the disk

Re: New discussion: ppc64 installer -- ext2 /boot partition to keep yaboot happy.

2017-10-31 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 31, 2017, at 12:12 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 10/31/2017 07:57 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> Can you give me instructions for how to install your modifications >> during installation? I’d love to help with the debugging if I can. > > This has alr

Re: ppc64 installer - make d-i/grub-installer work for NewWorld Power Macs

2017-11-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 1, 2017, at 3:50 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote: > @Rick: > I've also attached compressed versions of `grub-installer` and > `debian/postinst` - the latter already renamed so it can be used as is in a > Debian installation with Adrian's image from 2017-10-23 22:40h ([1]) after > decompressio

Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] Patch the CHRP boot script

2017-11-20 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Frank, On Nov 19, 2017, at 1:11 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote: > I'd like to check the behaviour of ofpath and ofpathname on my G3/G4 Power > Macs and Xserve but this will take a while, as most of them are in storage > currently and far away. I only have a Mac mini G4 at hand currently for > te

Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] Patch the CHRP boot script

2017-11-20 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Nov 20, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: > >Power Mac G5 7,2 (I think — it’s turned off right now) It’s actually a Power Mac G5 7,3 Dual Processor Rick

Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] Patch the CHRP boot script

2017-11-21 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 20, 2017, at 10:51 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: > Well, to be on the safe side, I think you need to use the latest versions of > ofpath and ofpathname, hence running Debian Sid could be the easiest way to > make sure this is the case. As both ofpath and ofpathname are shell scripts, would

Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] Patch the CHRP boot script

2017-11-27 Thread Rick Thomas
you individually. Is there a better way? Enjoy! Rick On Nov 27, 2017, at 3:21 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Nov 20, 2017, at 10:51 PM, Frank Scheiner wrote: > >> On 11/21/2017 02:48 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: >>> If you can tell me *exactly* what to do, and I

Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] Patch the CHRP boot script

2017-12-01 Thread Rick Thomas
On 11/27/2017 08:08 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> When I tried to send this (with an attached zip file of the output of my >> test script) to the PowerPC list, I got a bounce message back saying I’m not >> allowed to send attachments to the list. >> So… If you want to see the

Re: jessie powermac yboot: ybin fails

2018-03-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Felix! You’re more likely to get an answer to this on the powerpc list, so I CC’ed them. Also, it would be helpful to see what your /etc/yaboot.conf looks like. Enjoy! Rick On Feb 28, 2018, at 1:32 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > # ybin > ofpath: Device: /dev/ata-ST is not supported > ybin: Una

Re: jessie powermac yboot: ybin fails

2018-03-04 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 2, 2018, at 7:51 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > Rick Thomas composed on 2018-03-02 04:17 (UTC-0800): > >> Felix Miata wrote: > >>> # ybin >>> ofpath: Device: /dev/ata-ST is not supported >>> ybin: Unable to determine OpenFirmware path for >>

Error trying to update powerpc64 Jessie machine.

2018-06-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi! For the last couple of days, my PowerPC64 machine, running Debian Jessie, has been getting this error message when I try to do “apt update”: > W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/jessie/updates/InRelease > Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-powerpc/Packages' in Rele

Re: Error trying to update powerpc64 Jessie machine.

2018-06-29 Thread Rick Thomas
just comment out the security.debian.org line in my sources.list? Thanks, Rick On Jun 28, 2018, at 5:22 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Hi Rick, > > This has little to do with the installer team (debian-boot@), and it > isn't (really) a powerpc-specific issue either. > > R

Re: Error trying to update powerpc64 Jessie machine.

2018-06-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jun 28, 2018, at 8:09 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Yes, as announced by DSA, the powerpc buildds have been shut down: Forgive my ignorance, What is “DSA”? Thanks! Rick

Re: Error trying to update powerpc64 Jessie machine.

2018-06-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jun 28, 2018, at 8:09 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > We are currently in the process to properly move powerpc to Debian > Ports. In the meantime, you can either reinstall your machine with > Debian ppc64 from Debian Ports [1] or wait until the transition is > finished. Yes, I recal

Re: Please update your sources.list for powerpc

2018-07-05 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 5, 2018, at 8:30 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Hello! > > Since powerpc is now part of Debian Ports, everyone who is running > Debian on powerpc needs to update their /etc/apt/sources.list to > be able to continue tracking unstable. > > The new sources.list should look like:

PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-24 Thread Rick Thomas
I just loaded the latest Debian-ports powerpc64 installer on a PowerMac dual-core G5 that I had lying around. It installed kernel 4.16.0-1-powerpc64 from the CD. After the install finished, I did an update/upgrade and that installed kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64. A few minutes after rebooting wi

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 24, 2018, at 9:26 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 08/24/2018 09:31 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> I just loaded the latest Debian-ports powerpc64 installer on a PowerMac >> dual-core G5 that I had lying around. >> It installed kernel 4.16.0-1-powerpc64 from the C

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 25, 2018, at 1:54 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> 2) Firefox segfaults when I start it, either from command line or from the >> system menu. Is this a known bug? Are there any other graphical (i.e., >> non-text-mode) browsers I can use instead? I can use elinks for most >

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 25, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > The bucket of things I see back on 4.15.0 are : > > 4.15.0-2-powerpc64@nix# uname -a > Linux nix 4.15.0-2-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 4.15.11-1 (2018-03-20) ppc64 > GNU/Linux > 4.15.0-2-powerpc64@nix# lsmod | grep -i "farm" > windfarm_cpufreq_cl

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-25 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Mark! On Aug 25, 2018, at 8:52 PM, Mark G.B. wrote: > Hello Rick and other PMac users, > > What kind of Powermac are you running the 4.17 kernel on? 11,2? 11,2 btw, I > believe is the G5 Quad-core. Even with your reply, I may not come to a > definitive conclusion. I will have to do some r

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-27 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 26, 2018, at 1:25 AM, Mark G.B. wrote: > Hi Rick and everyone, > > It’s a bug (IMHO). Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, though. > > Attached here are two images of the Debian-powerpc64 specific kernel-config > extracted from the .deb package of the Linux-image package off of >

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-27 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Aug 27, 2018, at 1:34 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > >> >> If it is a bug, it’s a minor one, and it’s easily worked around by the >> addition to /etc/modules. But I’m curious to know what changed? If it is a >> name change, as Adrian suggests, I’m curious to know what chang

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel4.17.0-3-powerpc64but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-27 Thread Rick Thomas
I can try just about anything on my G5. It exists strictly for testing, right now. If you can point me to a .deb with the patch that I can install, I’ll be happy to test it. Rick > On Aug 27, 2018, at 6:41 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > On 8/28/18 3:36 AM, John Paul Adrian Gla

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-27 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Aug 27, 2018, at 6:54 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > On 8/25/18 10:54 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>> 2) Firefox segfaults when I start it, either from command line or from the >>> system menu. Is this a known bug? Are there any other graphical (i.e., >>> non-tex

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-08-27 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Aug 27, 2018, at 9:44 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > >> On Aug 27, 2018, at 6:54 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz >> wrote: >> >> On 8/25/18 10:54 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>>> 2) Firefox segfaults when I start it, either from command

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-09-03 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 2, 2018, at 11:08 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 3:41 AM Rick Thomas wrote: >> >> >> I just loaded the latest Debian-ports powerpc64 installer on a PowerMac >> dual-core G5 that I had lying around. >> >> It installe

Re: linux-image-3.13-1-powerpc-smp: therm_windtunnel does not load correctly

2018-09-03 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Mathieu, I’m sorry that I don’t have the expertise to apply a patch and build a kernel. However, if someone who does have that expertise can build a “.deb’ file and tell me where to download it, I’ll be happy to test and provide detailed feedback. Another possibility, of course, would be f

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-09-03 Thread Rick Thomas
Sadly, I don’t have the expertise to build a patched kernel. If you can point me to a patched kernel .deb file, I’ll be happy to install it and report on the results. Thanks! Rick On Sep 3, 2018, at 1:42 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: > >> The bug is “status: NEEDINFO”, so I assume it’s not fixed

Re: Bug#741663: linux-image-3.13-1-powerpc-smp: therm_windtunnel does not load correctly

2018-09-08 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks! Yes, I’ll give it a try. On Sep 8, 2018, at 6:51 AM, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 11:38:32PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: >> Hi Mathieu, >> >> I’m sorry that I don’t have the expertise to apply a patch and build >> a kern

Re: Bug#741663: linux-image-3.13-1-powerpc-smp: therm_windtunnel does not load correctly

2018-09-09 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 9, 2018, at 1:59 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2018 at 02:48:01PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: >> Thanks! Yes, I’ll give it a try. > > Note: You can either build the v4.19-rc1 tar ball which has the patch > already included. Or you can take your Debian k

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-09-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sep 21, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 09/03/2018 04:42 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: >>> The bug is “status: NEEDINFO”, so I assume it’s not fixed yet. In the >>> meantime, manually loading the windfarm modules is a tested workaround. >> Does this workaround work for you, too? >> "

Re: Power Mac G5: Attempting to get 2D acceleration with nouveau and 6800 Ultra

2018-10-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Sorry about your LCS!  (stands for Liquid Cooling System -- the multicore G5's run *HOT*)  That's a lot of work!And thanks for the hints on doing my own tinkering...  It would be funif I had the time.  Unfortunately, time is something I'm short of rightnow. So, in the interest of getting something

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-10-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks for the reply, Dennis! On Oct 2, 2018, at 7:21 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > On 09/24/2018 10:18 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> On Sep 21, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: >>> On 09/03/2018 04:42 AM, Wolfram Sang wrote: >>>>> The bug is “status: NEEDINFO

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-10-03 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 3, 2018, at 12:19 AM, Dennis Clarke wrote: >> I gather you have the 4-core version. > > Looks like just dual core. I don't think the IBM 970ppc was ever quad core. Sorry… I said “core” when I should have said “processor”. You have four processors, divided over two sockets of two core

Re: PowerMac G5 fans run out of control with kernel 4.17.0-3-powerpc64 but not with 4.16.0-1-powerpc64

2018-10-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Dennis, Glad to hear you got it working! How about this… You send me your detailed notes from making the kernel; I’ll try to follow them and reproduce your results. If I have trouble I’ll ask you for clarification and we’ll incorporate those into the next rev of the notes. I’ll then try

Re: Repository for debian-ppc

2018-11-24 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Sep 2, 2018, at 2:14 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > On 9/2/18 10:31 AM, Michele Bert wrote: >> Il 31/08/18 12:11, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz ha scritto: >>> On 08/31/2018 11:41 AM, Mick Bert wrote: Can someone give me the correct line to add (or enable) to the /etc/

Re: Repository for debian-ppc

2018-11-25 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Nov 24, 2018, at 2:27 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > >> On Sep 2, 2018, at 2:14 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz >> wrote: >> >> On 9/2/18 10:31 AM, Michele Bert wrote: >>> Il 31/08/18 12:11, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz ha scritto: >>&g

Re: Repository for debian-ppc

2018-11-25 Thread Rick Thomas
> >>> linux-image-powerpc : Depends: linux-image-4.18.0-2-powerpc which is a >>> virtual package and is not provided by any available package > > You probably just tried to install during a server sync as the src:linux > package was just updated: > >> https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.

powerpc NETINST 20190124-23:05 "No installable kernel was found" installing on Mac mini G4

2019-01-26 Thread Rick Thomas
So I dug out an old Mac mini G4 and attempted to install the “powerpc NETINST 20190124-23:05” CD on it. I accepted all the defaults (no “expert” mode) until it came up with the error “No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources”. This occurred before it went looking for a

Re: powerpc NETINST 20190124-23:05 "No installable kernel was found" installing on Mac mini G4

2019-01-27 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Frank, > On Jan 27, 2019, at 4:04 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote: > > Dear Adrian, Rick, > > On 1/27/19 09:41, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On 1/27/19 4:16 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: >>> I decided to “continue without installing a kernel” in hopes that I could

installing NETINST 20190127 on Mac mini G4

2019-01-28 Thread Rick Thomas
OK, So I downloaded and burned the NETINST 20190127 CD, and used it to install the powerpc (32 bit) port on my Mac mini G4. All went well as I followed the “install” (not “expert”) script. I manually entered the mirror as “ftp.ports.debian.org” and the directory as “/debian-ports/“. It accep

Re: installing NETINST 20190127 on Mac mini G4

2019-01-28 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Jan 28, 2019, at 1:55 AM, Frank Scheiner wrote: > >> {2} Would it be possible to have “install yaboot boot loader” be an >> option on the main menu — parallel to “install grub bootloader”? >> That would be less daunting for beginners who don’t have our level of >> initiation into the Debia

Re: installing NETINST 20190127 on Mac mini G4

2019-01-28 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Jan 28, 2019, at 3:45 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > On 1/28/19 12:34 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: >> I realize that this may require some programming, but would it be possible >> to have it ask a question early on (maybe at or before the beginning of >

Re: installing NETINST 20190127 on Mac mini G4

2019-01-29 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:00 AM, Michael Cree wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 12:45:10PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On 1/28/19 12:34 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: >>> I realize that this may require some programming, but would it be possible >>> t

Re: PPC64 Image Installation Error

2019-01-29 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Jan 28, 2019, at 11:19 PM, Noah Wolfe wrote: > > Hello. > > I'm running a Late 2005 Power Mac G5 (11,2), and although the regular > powerpc installer images may be fixed from most problems at this point > (going off of other people's posted experiences), the newest netinstall > ppc64 ima

Re: PPC64 Image Installation Error

2019-01-31 Thread Rick Thomas
g. I've been on this train for just under a > year and not only do I thank myself every day, I also learn something > new every day. Or at least, every other day, perhaps. Just as well.Thanks, > all. > > N > > On Tue, 2019-01-29 at 03:41 -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: >>

Re: PPC64 Image Installation Error

2019-02-02 Thread Rick Thomas
installation time by a great amount. > > From my experiences alone in the last few days, the ppc64 versions really put > the "unstable" in "Sid". > > In any case, please advise. Thank you. > > From: Noah Wolfe > Sent: Friday, February 1, 2019 2:08

Re: PPC64 Image Installation Error

2019-02-02 Thread Rick Thomas
> On Feb 2, 2019, at 8:11 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: > > > > On Feb 2, 2019, at 1:25 PM, Noah Wolfe wrote: >> The matter is all the more compacted, of course, due to the fact it doesn't >> even have ifconfig OOTB, giving you few usable methods to fix network errors. >> > > i

Debian 10.0 ppc64 NETINST-1 2019/01/27 -- windfarm on PowerMac G5 7,3

2019-02-09 Thread Rick Thomas
I just tried installing the 2019/01/27 ppc64 NETINST-1 on my Powermac G5 7,3. It booted OK and went thru the preliminaries, but about the time it got to loading the partitioner, the windfarm fans started going crazy and I had to shut it down. I seem to remember that there was a module I could

Re: Installation of Debian on an iMac PowerPC

2019-02-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi David, Try installing with the “oldstable”/“Jessie” CD. http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/8.11.0/powerpc/iso-cd/ Grub for Powerpc is still a work in progress. It may not work on your old G3 machine. Jessie uses the older “yaboot” bootloader, which may be more stable for

Best way too install Debian Jessie on powerpc/powerpc64 ?

2019-04-04 Thread Rick Thomas
Is there a new install CD/DVD for PowerPC Jessie now that it’s repo has been moved to archives? And in a similar vein, what changes do I need to make to sources.list for a Mac powerpc and/or powerpc64 that already has Jessie installed (*not* Sid) Thanks! Rick

Re: baffled .. the 2019-01-27 debian-10.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso not bootable

2019-04-05 Thread Rick Thomas
It’s *possible* that the DVD drive in the dual-socket machine is not able to boot from DVD-RW. (I have seen this before occasionally) Try burning to a DVD-R Just a thought… Rick PS: Also note that Adrian is in the process of making an updated boot CD for PowerPC64. See the recent mail in th

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